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This makes "The Catch" look like Pop Warner

Reflexes really. God put better wiring in some people than He did in others.

 
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Meh Brown did a flip into the end zone earlier this year... Bryant didn't want to copy him so he flipped out of it...
 
Brown didn't have the ball pinned to the back of his leg
 
What a catch! The video with Antonio's balance drill is cool too.
 
It's funny to me the number of people who feel that was not a catch, along with their justifications.
 
I haven't heard anyone say that yet...but I bet I will at work tomorrow
 
When I am 90 I will reminisce on that catch as thus: There was this pothead WR named Bryant, who during a playoff game and probably high as a kite, ran down the field and caught the ball with his *** as he somersaulted out of the end zone
 
CoolieMan said:
I haven't heard anyone say that yet...but I bet I will at work tomorrow
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ESPN and NFL Network had posted some photos on their Facebook and a lot of people claimed it wasn't a catch. There are a lot of football ignorant football fans in the world.
 
Stainless said:
ESPN and NFL Network had posted some photos on their Facebook and a lot of people claimed it wasn't a catch. There are a lot of football ignorant football fans in the world.
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To be honest, I didn't think it was a catch either. I can't be certain that he maintained possession with his grip, until it was pinned on his leg. Even then, it continued to move. I believe the replay evidence was inconclusive, since it was ruled a TD. But the other way around, if it was ruled incomplete, I don't think you can say the replay showed without a doubt that it was a TD.

It was, however, one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed watching this game!
 
Cope said:
To be honest, I didn't think it was a catch either. I can't be certain that he maintained possession with his grip, until it was pinned on his leg. Even then, it continued to move. I believe the replay evidence was inconclusive, since it was ruled a TD. But the other way around, if it was ruled incomplete, I don't think you can say the replay showed without a doubt that it was a TD.

It was, however, one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed watching this game!
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There was nothing in the video evidence to suggest he ever lost control/possession of the ball. The fact that the ball "moved" is what a lot of people seem to be falling back on when they say it was not a catch. The ball can move as long as you are maintaining control. Moving and bobbling etc.are not synonymous.

I would also agree that if it had been ruled incomplete, it may have not been overturned as I believe there are points in the video that was shown where you cannot see the football. I did see video after the game from angles that were not shown during the broadcast. it may have not been CBS footage.
 
So now the VP of officiating is saying it shouldn't have been ruled a catch... While I guess I can certainly see how he would feel that way, I have a question for the VP of officiating.... what is the definition of "Control"? isn't it just a made up judgement call? does it require a palm, a hand? five fingers? Two? What is the ball movement allowed... if the ball is grasped in one hand and slides along ones body, is it moving?

I knew going into that (2nd down play, by the way) that whatever they ruled on the field was probably standing... I probably would have ruled it incomplete when I saw the initial juggle and let replay show if he controlled it or not , But I have seen 4 angles and two look like he had it and two looks like he may not have had it...

So lets get back to this... replay isn't meant to be 100% accurate... never will be... its meant to get the calls that no one can dispute correct... calling Testeverde's helmet a Td on fourth and goal with the ball no where near the goal line... calling a pass that clearly bounced to a receiver incomplete... calling a fumble back when the defensive lineman clearly was down when he fumbled it.... a split second bobble of a ball is not going to be an accurate call.. and you know what,... that is fine because the game isn't a precise game... spots are off by a bit every time... can you imagine how much that can affect a game in the long run?... there are a dozen plays a game that are close enough that you cant ever really know. holds... missed holds... and yes, The ridiculous nonsense that makes up a "catch"... The thing is Bryant should have caught that ball clean... the bengals still failed in their coverage there... yes the ref may in super slo stop motion camera, been shown to have missed a slight bobble as his foot came up, but trust me if your hopes were tied to that kind of call, well you are hopeless...
 
Cope said:
To be honest, I didn't think it was a catch either. I can't be certain that he maintained possession with his grip, until it was pinned on his leg. Even then, it continued to move. I believe the replay evidence was inconclusive, since it was ruled a TD. But the other way around, if it was ruled incomplete, I don't think you can say the replay showed without a doubt that it was a TD.

It was, however, one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed watching this game!
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Felt the same. I was surprised that they called it a catch, given the way they called a lot of other catches. Looked to me like he was still securing the ball as he went out of bounds.
 
Catch? No catch? Meh! It was spectacular and I'm happy I got to see it. My thoughts were it was coming back due to the way he caught it, but even after review the officials let it stand. So says i.....Count it! It the history books it a CATCH!
 
Stainless said:
ESPN and NFL Network had posted some photos on their Facebook and a lot of people claimed it wasn't a catch. There are a lot of football ignorant football fans in the world.
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Highlighted most notably by former NFL players on NFL network like Dion Sanders and Marshall **** who tried to dissect the hit on AB like it was or at least should be legal. Really!!! And then going on about Shazier's hit which guess what you fucktards WAS A LEGAL HIT.
 
madinsomniac said:
So now the VP of officiating is saying it shouldn't have been ruled a catch... While I guess I can certainly see how he would feel that way, I have a question for the VP of officiating.... what is the definition of "Control"? isn't it just a made up judgement call? does it require a palm, a hand? five fingers? Two? What is the ball movement allowed... if the ball is grasped in one hand and slides along ones body, is it moving?

I knew going into that (2nd down play, by the way) that whatever they ruled on the field was probably standing... I probably would have ruled it incomplete when I saw the initial juggle and let replay show if he controlled it or not , But I have seen 4 angles and two look like he had it and two looks like he may not have had it...

So lets get back to this... replay isn't meant to be 100% accurate... never will be... its meant to get the calls that no one can dispute correct... calling Testeverde's helmet a Td on fourth and goal with the ball no where near the goal line... calling a pass that clearly bounced to a receiver incomplete... calling a fumble back when the defensive lineman clearly was down when he fumbled it.... a split second bobble of a ball is not going to be an accurate call.. and you know what,... that is fine because the game isn't a precise game... spots are off by a bit every time... can you imagine how much that can affect a game in the long run?... there are a dozen plays a game that are close enough that you cant ever really know. holds... missed holds... and yes, The ridiculous nonsense that makes up a "catch"... The thing is Bryant should have caught that ball clean... the bengals still failed in their coverage there... yes the ref may in super slo stop motion camera, been shown to have missed a slight bobble as his foot came up, but trust me if your hopes were tied to that kind of call, well you are hopeless...
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I haven't seen anything in the articles I've read where he explains why he feels it wasn't a catch, which would have been nice. Personally, I think it was a catch. In my opinion, he had control of the football with two feet down and never lost control.
 
Stainless said:
I haven't seen anything in the articles I've read where he explains why he feels it wasn't a catch, which would have been nice. Personally, I think it was a catch. In my opinion, he had control of the football with two feet down and never lost control.
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Because the final call on that stuff is in fact a judgement case... three guys can look at the same thing and see something different... which is why a more definitive or more lax rule needs to be in place for catches... the random "no movement" thing is very subjective. I saw Ward stripped of a catch because the nose of the ball moved an inch between his hands when he landed on his back... never came out or anything... justa ref deciding a guy holding a ball with two hands didn't have it controlled ...
 
I haven't seen any Bengals fans that believe it was a catch. Maybe we could invite one of them here for a clear explanation of the rule and why it wasn't a catch.
 
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