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New coaching hires are laughable.....

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While people sit here and ***** incessantly about Mike Tomlin......plenty of teams would sure love to have him you can bet on that. Look at these hires that have been made in the last week. You've got two hires from within fills with McAdoo and Koetter. Who knows what will happen there. They're somewhat safe but still unproven hires. Then you have Chip kelly going to the 49ers. No comment. Ugh. Doug Pederson to the Eagles. We'll see. Wow. And as we've discussed Hue Jackson to the Browns who I think may be the best hire out of all of them, unfortunately he doesn't stand a chance with that keystone cops front office. Just goes to show how shallow the pool is for these positions.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Don't forget Gase with the Dolphins.
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Yeah I forgot about that one. I feel the same way about the Gase hire that I do about Jackson. The Dolphins as an organization are brutal. That's such an important factor in these situations. There is some talent there though.
 
stillwright said:
Coughlin pulled his name from consideration.
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Yeah, he didn't want to work there. I could see him in Tampa. He doesn't have the personality to do TV.
 
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So Tennessee is the only open job left
 
Nothing laughable about McAdoo's Western PA 'stache. It's solid.
 
The Browns should have done everything that they could have done to get Coughlin.
 
What i get from these hires is that teams are tired of cycling through the same coaches. However i think some teams should have waited longer to at least take a look at some of the assistants on the better teams. I feel the giants definitely could have hired a better coach, but i guess new blood into the coaching pool is not a bad thing.
 
And still no love for Lovie. I haven't even heard his name mentioned.
 
I don't see what's so laughable about them. People wondered who the hell Tomlin was when he was hired. The only clueless one to me is Kelly. If they seriously think he can bring Kap back from the dead, they're nuts. The Jackson hire isn't entirely laughable, but their front office is.
 
steel shinin said:
While people sit here and ***** incessantly about Mike Tomlin......plenty of teams would sure love to have him you can bet on that. Look at these hires that have been made in the last week. You've got two hires from within fills with McAdoo and Koetter. Who knows what will happen there. They're somewhat safe but still unproven hires. Then you have Chip kelly going to the 49ers. No comment. Ugh. Doug Pederson to the Eagles. We'll see. Wow. And as we've discussed Hue Jackson to the Browns who I think may be the best hire out of all of them, unfortunately he doesn't stand a chance with that keystone cops front office. Just goes to show how shallow the pool is for these positions.
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McAdoo and Koetter were both safe hires for their teams and that's about it. They wanted to "change it up" without completely starting over. Chip Kelly I feel can be a great coach but I don't let him sniff the front office. He can have input but I would have a GM run the team and Chip run games/practices. Doug Pederson was a career backup QB. But you tell me how a guy sticks around for 12 years and plays under Mike Sherman and not have something going on between his ears.

I personally feel Tomlin is an overrated coach. I feel he fell into a great situation and has been riding the Roethlisberger coattails since he was hired. I mean it's not his fault Cowher quit and Art the duece hired his token to prove his progressiveness. If Tomlin really wants to prove he's a great coach I want to see a win on Sunday with no AB, Williams, and a banged up Roethlisberger.
 
Why are we talking about this? With an upcoming playoff game, nothing else should be discussed whatsoever.
 
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Here's my problem about coaching hires:

What the hell is the big rush to get a new HC before the 2nd week of Jan? The most successful programs will be coaching up thourgh Superbowl Sunday. Why not wait, interview them in the offseason or the week off between the Conference Championship games and the week before traveling to the Superbowl? It seems like the best candidates would be from that group.

I like the DC in ARI, Denver, KC, and Seattle. OCs in ARI, NE, PIT, & DEN. That's who you target. People who have built Superbowl quality programs. Not scrambling neverrans, and pretenders. Sweet! We got Cincinnati's OC! Congrats, but don't pat yourselves on the back too hard, he'll be looking for a new job in 2 years...

The Superbowl is Feb 7th. You have a full week to decide who you want as your HC after the SB. That gives the new HC 2 weeks before they have to help decide on Transition or Franchise players. I would argue that the HC still isn't really needed for that, this job can be done by the GM. I would however, want my coach in place by the start of the combine, which is usually in March.

I just looked up this year's combine, and it's set for Feb 23 to start, so my timetable would have to be moved up this year. Here is how I would approach the interview process: 1/25-1/28 interview any and all coordinators who are participating in the Superbowl. They have priority because they have to travel, plus if you really like one of these guys, you have to wait on the hire. Fit in the rest of your candidates who lost in the divisional or championship rounds 1-27 through 2/3. Now you have a pool of 8-12 highly qualified, productive coordinators, who have shown they can either build a successful program, or have shown consistency over time in keeping their programs competitive.

If one of the candidates, that is not participating in the Superbowl, wows you, then you can hire them immediately (probably by Feb 1). Worst case, you can hire your HC the Monday after Superbowl giving them 2 weeks to hire their staff and prepare for the combine. The scouts should already be in place, but your team philosophy may change due to your OC and DC hires, so it's good to have the types of players you want to target, ready by the start of combine.

I mean, what advantage does any team have hiring a guy 5-6 weeks before combine vs 2 weeks before combine? I'd say my metric would get you a better quality hire, and possibly, more stability in the long run.
 
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This thread should be locked; it's not about the upcoming playoff game and NOTHING other than that game should be discussed. The draft thread was locked up, so why isn't this one?
 
Cope said:
I mean, what advantage does any team have hiring a guy 5-6 weeks before combine vs 2 weeks before combine? I'd say my metric would get you a better quality hire, and possibly, more stability in the long run.
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They have to assemble a staff and get everyone on the same page too. Good coaches don't always have to come from proven winners just like great coordinators don't always make great head coaches. If they think they found their guy, go with it and get the process started.
 
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