OK, can we draft a corner that can actually cover and tackle?
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OK, can we draft a corner that can actually cover and tackle?
Especially given the Steelers' penchant for getting badly beaten by TE's and short, over the middle WR stuff. Disrupting timing is critical on those.
I know this thread is about past CB's and how they are missed---I just want to make a point---that I think segues nicely with this comment...
Like AggieSteel, it is my opinion (IIMO), that before we take a high draft pick at CB/DB - we need a pass rushing demon. Buddy Dupree is not there yet-but he has a high ceiling. Nice pick.
In this year's draft I would have my eyes all over TIM WILLIAMS, OLB, Bama. Go watch some tape on the kid. He's not even a starter--but his speciality is PASS RUSHING!!!
Like we see, from years past, quality DB's can develop from the later rounds in the draft, if put in the right defensive scheme and systems...
Do you think we need to keep Willy Gay (30 years old) for one more season? Coach, I have to apologize with a comment I said on your 82 second thread from last week, after further review, I would probably let William Gay walk after this year. The Steelers keep defensive players (skill) too long. Maybe we could move him to SS???
Bite your tongue!!!
Oh ye of little faith...
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Gay is our best db. You want to let him walk? Only if some team offers him too much! Without Gay the Secondary goes from bad to worse.
I'm with you on Tim Williams.
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Wr's are much taller and heavier these days. How many 5'8" corners start in the nfl? Maybe zero. I'd say you almost have to be 5''10" tall and even then your a bad match up on the side lines and red zone
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I'd just like to see them jam them for a play or two every series....just to get them thinking that maybe the 10yd cushion isn't always there....
Take a look at Sean Smith or Prince Naka?????(whatever). An upgrade over Blake. Scouts need to do a lot of homework this offseason and find a damn good corner or safety
If you're a 5'8-5'10 corner. The best tangibles to have are strength, footwork, agility, speed, and ball awareness. The advantage to being under a tall receiver is you can jam him up at the line. Get under, disrupt the timing between him and the QB and keep a safety over the top
But our corners dont press to disrupt timing
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I know that he is completely forgotten, and no I'm not saying he is going to be our savior, but Senquez Golson was drafted this past offseason and never made it to the field. He's like an extra draft pick for us next year. Just throwing it out there since I don't ever see his name brought up.
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Golson is definitely a wild card going into next season, in that he has intriguing talent despite his lack of height.
However, not being able to get a look at him this year forces them to have to address the position again early in the upcoming draft.
Having to spend high picks on the same positions (primarily OLB and CB) year after year is going to come back and hurt them at some point.
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How does it force them to go early again? They already have the same info on him as any they would draft, plus a little bit extra. He was in mini camps, they've been dealing with him in person since they drafted him. They know quite a bit about him. I think the opposite actually, having him already gives them the chance to go back towards the BPA. He's already a second round pick, it allows them to NOT force a pick in the secondary if there just isn't a player that justifies that draft position.
You have to treat Golson like a PS player.
In other words don't count on him.
why?
Because he is coming off a year long injury, we don't know if he will re-injure or if he will even be effective. As he has no experience to go with the injury question marks.
Steelers need to go into th off-season targeting two CBs, one if they resign Gay.
I don't see Golson changing that needed gameplan.
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If we treated every player that got injured that way, we never would have drafted Heath Miller. The reason they shut Golson down for the year was because he was going to miss the entire training camp, putting him way behind the learning curve. He easily could have come back during the year, but would have had zero experience in the system at all.
Heath had a sports hernia that didn't keep him out of the regular season. It just lowered his draft stock.
two totally different scenarios
Golson was already drafted , and was IR'd
why he was IR'd matters not, the fact he is still a major question mark, combined with possibly losing three corners,
confirms I won't be changing my viewpoint on what is needed going into the offseason
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Good for you, and good for the Steelers that your viewpoint doesn't matter. They will resign Gay, losing anyone else from this secondary isn't actually losing anything. I also never said that having Golson changes that we should be looking at CB and S help, it just simply means they aren't FORCED to take another high round one because we do have them. You say you can't count on him because of his injury, you can't count on a draft pick either, he's a rookie, could struggle with the transition, might not transition at all. It was already posted the number of busts in the CB position from ALL around the NFL.
for that matter I am sure they aren't hanging onto any of our opinions..
We were never forced to take anyone high, regardless that would be reaching. A bad draft decision... We will pick this convo up after the playoffs,,,,
I'm pretty sure we put Golson on IR because he required major surgery on his shoulder that required months of rehab. He was injured in minicamp.
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Yes, enough rehab time to miss ALL of camp, and a few weeks of the reg season, just IR him since he would be of no use coming back with zero experience.
If I recall correctly, they drafted two CB's this season but both of them ended up on IR before the regular season started.
Everything I read said that - if surgery was warranted - if would be a season-ender. Shoulder surgeries can be 4-6 months of rehab. I haven't seen anything that supports your "weeks not months" diagnosis. And it makes no sense because they simply could have left him on PUP which would have kept him off the roster for the first 6 weeks. Nothing was forcing them to put him on IR except the reality that it was a "months not weeks" injury.
Again wrong. Doran Grant is on the active roster. He was drafted in round 4.
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Are you struggling with your reading? He was hurt in mini camp, had surgery before training camp. He was going to miss A L L O F T R A I N I N G C A M P...ON TOP of AT LEAST a few weeks into the regular season. He is a rookie getting ZERO REPS in a new defensive system. You PUP him and he still misses the reps and comes in clueless on where to be, what his assignment is, what the calls are, etc.
This isn't that hard to figure out people...quit taking PART of my post and read the ENTIRE thing...