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California's gun sales break records


Amid a new round of debate over gun control, Californians have already bought a record number of firearms in 2015, including major spikes in sales on Black Friday and the days after the San Bernardino attacks, an analysis of new federal and state data show.

Firearms purchases in California triggered 1.51 million federal background checks in the first 11 months of the year, breaking the previous annual record of 1.47 million set last year.

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_29238575/californias-gun-sales-break-records

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Follow California, they are progressive
 
Nice. 'Tis the season to buy guns. I've had my eye on a S&W Governor for a while now. For snakes and Arabs and such. I might pull the trigger.
 
Think I'll go snag a few hundred rounds of 7.62 while i am in the spirit. Wrap them up and give them away as Christmas gifts to friends. It's the small things that count.
 
Think I'll go snag a few hundred rounds of 7.62 while i am in the spirit. Wrap them up and give them away as Christmas gifts to friends. It's the small things that count.

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The vast majority of gun homicides are by illegal guns.

20 years minimum sentence for possessing an illegal gun.
40 year minimum if you commit a crime with an illegal gun.
Death penalty if you kill someone with an illegal gun.

You'd see knife crime skyrocket.
 
The vast majority of gun homicides are by illegal guns.

20 years minimum sentence for possessing an illegal gun.
40 year minimum if you commit a crime with an illegal gun.
Death penalty if you kill someone with an illegal gun.

You'd see knife crime skyrocket.

Hammers Ed, hammers. We need to lock them up and severely restrict their availability to minors, malcontents and the mentally deficient.

According to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.

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Another interesting fact: According to the FBI, nearly twice as many people are killed by hands and fists each year than are killed by murderers who use rifles.

The bottom line: A rifle ban is as illogical as it is unconstitutional. We face far greater danger from individuals armed with carpenters’ tools and a caveman’s stick.
 
Been a hunter all my life. I own a .30-06 for deer hunting which I do most Novembers (missed going this year), 12 Gauge for waterfowl, and two .22's for small game and target. Canadian Gun Registration started about 22 years ago. My family like most hunting people were extremely concerned and upset about the proposition. We saw the posters of Australian gun destruction. We dragged our feet through the process every step of the way. I can tell you this. My ownership of firearms has not been curtailed in any meaningful way in that 22 years other then the minimal cost of registration every 5 years. I need to show my registration to purchase a gun or ammunition. I was forced to purchase a more secure storage locker to hold my guns, which I should have had in the past anyway. That is it.
I have a friend in Police services, who says the registration is absolutely a important valuable tool in both community safety and law enforcement. Better storage leads to less theft which means there are less guns in the hands of criminals. Knowing who owns weapons as you enter a domestic dispute is an important precaution for a police officer.
Finally, when the Terrorist attacked the Canadian Parliment in Oct. '14 he was carrying a lever action 30-30. He didn't have an urban assault weapon. He killed the Soldier at the war memorial easily with the element of surprise, but I have to think that the choice of weapon had an impact on the amount of other innocent casualties.
 
Been a hunter all my life. I own a .30-06 for deer hunting which I do most Novembers (missed going this year), 12 Gauge for waterfowl, and two .22's for small game and target. Canadian Gun Registration started about 22 years ago. My family like most hunting people were extremely concerned and upset about the proposition. We saw the posters of Australian gun destruction. We dragged our feet through the process every step of the way. I can tell you this. My ownership of firearms has not been curtailed in any meaningful way in that 22 years other then the minimal cost of registration every 5 years. I need to show my registration to purchase a gun or ammunition. I was forced to purchase a more secure storage locker to hold my guns, which I should have had in the past anyway. That is it.
I have a friend in Police services, who says the registration is absolutely a important valuable tool in both community safety and law enforcement. Better storage leads to less theft which means there are less guns in the hands of criminals. Knowing who owns weapons as you enter a domestic dispute is an important precaution for a police officer.
Finally, when the Terrorist attacked the Canadian Parliment in Oct. '14 he was carrying a lever action 30-30. He didn't have an urban assault weapon. He killed the Soldier at the war memorial easily with the element of surprise, but I have to think that the choice of weapon had an impact on the amount of other innocent casualties.

You are more than welcome to keep your gun registration north of the border. The problem isn't responsible gun owners.
 
Nice. 'Tis the season to buy guns. I've had my eye on a S&W Governor for a while now. For snakes and Arabs and such. I might pull the trigger.

I vote nay on the governor. Impractical, almost no range, and 410 ain't cheap. Was very underwhelming to shoot IMO.
 
Been a hunter all my life. I own a .30-06 for deer hunting which I do most Novembers (missed going this year), 12 Gauge for waterfowl, and two .22's for small game and target. Canadian Gun Registration started about 22 years ago. My family like most hunting people were extremely concerned and upset about the proposition. We saw the posters of Australian gun destruction. We dragged our feet through the process every step of the way. I can tell you this. My ownership of firearms has not been curtailed in any meaningful way in that 22 years other then the minimal cost of registration every 5 years. I need to show my registration to purchase a gun or ammunition. I was forced to purchase a more secure storage locker to hold my guns, which I should have had in the past anyway. That is it.
I have a friend in Police services, who says the registration is absolutely a important valuable tool in both community safety and law enforcement. Better storage leads to less theft which means there are less guns in the hands of criminals. Knowing who owns weapons as you enter a domestic dispute is an important precaution for a police officer.
Finally, when the Terrorist attacked the Canadian Parliment in Oct. '14 he was carrying a lever action 30-30. He didn't have an urban assault weapon. He killed the Soldier at the war memorial easily with the element of surprise, but I have to think that the choice of weapon had an impact on the amount of other innocent casualties.

It is also incredibly important for a government who decides to ban guns to know who has them so they can be rounded up. Might sound paranoid but it is the reason I would never support it.
 
It is also incredibly important for a government who decides to ban guns to know who has them so they can be rounded up. Might sound paranoid but it is the reason I would never support it.
Well it is paranoid because Canadian culture and politics is far more liberal, but it never happened. Banning guns in the US would be political suicide.
 
I vote nay on the governor. Impractical, almost no range, and 410 ain't cheap. Was very underwhelming to shoot IMO.

Thanks. I was going to shoot it first. The local range has a rental. The defense shell with shot and discs looked interesting.
 
Think I'll go snag a few hundred rounds of 7.62 while i am in the spirit. Wrap them up and give them away as Christmas gifts to friends. It's the small things that count.

Check your PM for my mailing address.
 

We need to get plugs off the streets, or at least come to some common sense plug laws. People need to be trained and licensed, and fined. Fined heavily. And we should fine people that don't have plugs. We need 20,000 new IRS agents. Its a crisis, I tell you!
 
All of the leading politicians to my knowledge, except for Marco Rubio, overlook or ignore that the terrorist leaders, especially Iran, are Apocalyptical Islamists. They, whether Sunni or *****, are focused solely on fighting to bring about the caliphate and the Twelfth Imam. They are not going to give up for any reason. There will be no truce. Either we win or they win. At this time it does not appear that the current Administration wants to win. Further, with the nuclear agreement with Iran it appears they are trying to hasten the end.

MUSLIM: "We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it."

DEMOCRAT: "No you didn't."

MUSLIM:"Wait, what? Yes we did..."

DEMOCRAT: "No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons."

MUSLIM: "WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers."

DEMOCRAT: "No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so."

MUSLIM: "Huh!? Who are you to tell us we're not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the
truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being."

DEMOCRAT: "Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that's why you did this. We're sorry."

MUSLIM: "What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians disenfranchisement doesn't even enter into it!"

DEMOCRAT: "Easy access to guns is what drives your anger."

MUSLIM: "It's not the guns! We will knife you, hang you, burn you, run you over, and bombs are easy to create in our kitchens! We don't care
about the guns! In fact, civilian might actually make it difficult for us!"

DEMOCRAT: "Obviously we need to ban all guns. We need to overturn the Second Amendment."

MUSLIM: "By Allah, you are a motherless fool! The weapon is not the issue! Our Holy Jihad against you is the only thing that is important!"

DEMOCRAT: "Climate Change is the reason you rage against us. We deserve it."

MUSLIM: "WHAT??!? What the hell does Climate Change have to do with this???"

DEMOCRAT: "Because of Climate Change, the oceans will rise by one-tenth of one inch, and that makes you furious...."

MUSLIM: (face in palms)

DEMOCRAT: "You see no future for your children because of Climate Change so you strap bombs on them and send them into shopping malls.

MUSLIM: "NO DAMMIT. It has NOTHING to do with Climate Change or Gun Control or ANYTHING like that! It is because we follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammad, who tells us to put all unbelievers to the sword! We are commanded by Allah to kill you all!"

DEMOCRAT: "This is all caused by the fact we bullied gays and transgenders in our past. If we hadn't been so mean, and accepted Bruce
Jenner for the amazing woman he was all those years, you would not be trying to kill us. Please forgive us."

MUSLIM: "ARE YOU INSANE??? We kill gays the moment we find them! We hang them by their necks any chance we can! Islam hates homosexuality!"

DEMOCRAT: "Listen, it's our fault. We resisted resettling you in our country. We should have given you more welfare and food stamps. We don't
blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out."

MUSLIM: "Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we're not going to let you take it away from us."

DEMOCRAT: "No, we nourished your extremism. We accept full blame."

MUSLIM: "OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?""

DEMOCRAT: "Gun control will fix this."
 
We need to get plugs off the streets, or at least come to some common sense plug laws. People need to be trained and licensed, and fined. Fined heavily. And we should fine people that don't have plugs. We need 20,000 new IRS agents. Its a crisis, I tell you!

 
All of the leading politicians to my knowledge, except for Marco Rubio, overlook or ignore that the terrorist leaders, especially Iran, are Apocalyptical Islamists. They, whether Sunni or *****, are focused solely on fighting to bring about the caliphate and the Twelfth Imam. They are not going to give up for any reason. There will be no truce. Either we win or they win. At this time it does not appear that the current Administration wants to win. Further, with the nuclear agreement with Iran it appears they are trying to hasten the end.

MUSLIM: "We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it."

DEMOCRAT: "No you didn't."

MUSLIM:"Wait, what? Yes we did..."

DEMOCRAT: "No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons."

MUSLIM: "WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans, blasphemers, and disbelievers."

DEMOCRAT: "No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims, and you defame a great religion by saying so."

MUSLIM: "Huh!? Who are you to tell us we're not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the
truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being."

DEMOCRAT: "Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that's why you did this. We're sorry."

MUSLIM: "What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians disenfranchisement doesn't even enter into it!"

DEMOCRAT: "Easy access to guns is what drives your anger."

MUSLIM: "It's not the guns! We will knife you, hang you, burn you, run you over, and bombs are easy to create in our kitchens! We don't care
about the guns! In fact, civilian might actually make it difficult for us!"

DEMOCRAT: "Obviously we need to ban all guns. We need to overturn the Second Amendment."

MUSLIM: "By Allah, you are a motherless fool! The weapon is not the issue! Our Holy Jihad against you is the only thing that is important!"

DEMOCRAT: "Climate Change is the reason you rage against us. We deserve it."

MUSLIM: "WHAT??!? What the hell does Climate Change have to do with this???"

DEMOCRAT: "Because of Climate Change, the oceans will rise by one-tenth of one inch, and that makes you furious...."

MUSLIM: (face in palms)

DEMOCRAT: "You see no future for your children because of Climate Change so you strap bombs on them and send them into shopping malls.

MUSLIM: "NO DAMMIT. It has NOTHING to do with Climate Change or Gun Control or ANYTHING like that! It is because we follow the teachings of the Prophet Mohammad, who tells us to put all unbelievers to the sword! We are commanded by Allah to kill you all!"

DEMOCRAT: "This is all caused by the fact we bullied gays and transgenders in our past. If we hadn't been so mean, and accepted Bruce
Jenner for the amazing woman he was all those years, you would not be trying to kill us. Please forgive us."

MUSLIM: "ARE YOU INSANE??? We kill gays the moment we find them! We hang them by their necks any chance we can! Islam hates homosexuality!"

DEMOCRAT: "Listen, it's our fault. We resisted resettling you in our country. We should have given you more welfare and food stamps. We don't
blame you for feeling unwelcome and lashing out."

MUSLIM: "Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we're not going to let you take it away from us."

DEMOCRAT: "No, we nourished your extremism. We accept full blame."

MUSLIM: "OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across?""

DEMOCRAT: "Gun control will fix this."


There is in all of its absurdity. Brilliant!
 
Not fur nuttin' but I'm reading my morning news and came across a very interesting article that was written for the aged dumbass like me that never bothered to pay attention to politics 'till he settled into that rocker on his porch, watchin' the sunsets. Some of the references brought the Trump candidacy into a little clearer picture.

This paragraph caught my attention first....

Trump may not even need a majority of traditional Republican voters to win. His unusual candidacy could bring in voters new to the party or even to the political process. Whether Trump wins or loses a general election against Hillary Clinton is less important in this analysis than the effect his nomination would have on the composition and philosophy of the Republican Party. That effect would be profound.

Political parties are not static. They are born, they grow and change, they shrink and die. A party is a reflection of its membership. And when the identities or character of that membership is altered, the party is too. The clearest sign that such a transformation has occurred is in the selection of a party’s nominee.

This is where they started to school me on history.....

Three examples. Modern conservatism was born in 1955 with the founding of National Review, but the movement did not find political expression until the GOP nominated Barry Goldwater in 1964. The Arizona senator may have been defeated in a landslide, but the conservative activists and journalists and thinkers associated with his candidacy and cause did not disappear. They grew in numbers and in influence, and prepared the way for Ronald Reagan.

The Democratic Party was once the party of the white working class—of trade unionists, Catholics, Cold War hawks. Things changed with the nomination of George McGovern in 1972. The South Dakota senator was also defeated in a landslide, but his coalition of the highly educated, minorities, and liberal antiwar activists was the beginning of the “emerging Democratic majority” you read about today.

Reagan’s nomination and election in 1980 was itself a transformation. It confirmed that the GOP was pro-life, shifted the emphasis of economic policy from deficit reduction to supply-side tax cuts, and signaled the defeat of the Kissinger wing in foreign policy. Reagan drew support from new constituencies: evangelical Christians who had been politically quiescent for decades and urban ethnic voters in revolt against liberalism. This new ideology and social base set the terms of American politics for decades.


OK, got it ? Now to Trump

The tendency in Washington is not to take Donald Trump seriously. To describe him as a clown, as someone who will drop out, as someone whose beliefs are non-ideological. I believe that to dismiss him is a mistake. Since declaring his candidacy in June, Trump has been consistent on issues of immigration and trade and security. He has not deviated from building a wall on the southern border, slapping tariffs on imports, criticizing the 2003 Iraq war, praising Vladimir Putin, describing Ukraine as Germany’s problem not ours, and saying Middle East peace depends on Israeli concessions.

Trump’s nationalism has far more in common with the conservatism of Marine Le Pen, leader of France’s National Front, than with the conservatism of Ronald Reagan. Support for a “Muslim ban” is par for the course among European nationalists—by calling for it here all Trump has done is confirm how closely American politics resembles European politics. Reagan was an immigration advocate who signed the 1986 amnesty law.

Indeed, Republican nominees since Ronald Reagan have been internationalist in outlook. They have been pro-free trade and pro-immigration, have supported American leadership in global institutions, and have argued for market solutions and traditional values. A Republican Party under Donald Trump would broadly reject this attitude. It would emphasize protection in all its forms—immigration restriction, trade duties, a fortress America approach to international relations, and activist government to address health care and veterans’ care. Paeans to freedom and opportunity and equality and small government would give way to admonishments to strive, to fight, to win, to profit.

Trump’s rise has been aided by world events from the rise of ISIS to President Obama’s immigration policies to the shrinking of the middle class to the growing importance of religious and ethnic and sexual identity. But it has also been helped by the split between conservatives and Republican politicians amenable to bipartisan cooperation and gradual reform on the one hand, and conservatives and Republicans eager to make polarizing stands and wholeheartedly reject liberal premises on the other. Trump has exploited masterfully these anxieties and this disconnect, as well as disappointment with the previous Republican administration and the current Republican Congress, as he accelerates the Republican move toward nationalism.

http://freebeacon.us4.list-manage.c...1bb9bfafcbd472bee2&id=cd8e8a2551&e=1b60289474

That last statement grabbed me 'cause I don't know nationalism from any of the other ism's but I'm a learnin' it by God, it just takes me a while.


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That last statement grabbed me 'cause I don't know nationalism from any of the other ism's but I'm a learnin' it by God, it just takes me a while.
Nationalism means you think your country is the best and you're a xenophobe and a racist.
 
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