He can do whatever he wants. While the spot light is on him, I am skeptical of his motives. He is a turd. I only watched one game this year because they signed this turd. I don't cheer for them to lose, I just don't care whether they do or not. Even the one game I watched (seattle) it was because it was the only game on and I was too lazy to look for something else to watch. When the Steelers scored, I didn't get excited, when Seattle scored, I didn't get pissed off.
To me he is a PoS. It takes, IMO, a bit of evil to do the things he did. He didn't just run and manage the illegal gambling enterprise, he actively took part in the torture and death of the animals involved. To me, that is something missing in the person's psyche that doesn't go away with a little time in prison (not for animal abuse, btw) and some photo opportunities.
I hope he has turned his life around and become a better person. We won't, truly, know until he is out of the limelight and begins to live his life after football.
Even if he has turned over a new leaf, he is a ****** QB....
Serious question: why are you posting here? You clearly don't give a **** about the Steelers based on what you wrote. Are you just coming here and posting out of habit?
He's trying to rework his image. He'd still be hanging dogs and torturing them if he hadn't been caught.
What would you suggest he do, maybe continue to promote dog-fighting, instead of "rework his image"? Because he's been caught? I mean, ****, he's been caught, **** it; let's just keep promoting that type of activity, and that type of environment, because God forbid someone question someone if/when they try to get on the straight and narrow and put that **** behind them, etc etc.
It appears to me that he's trying to do good. I'm not concerned with his motivations, only that he's doing good, for himself, and for those around him. If he thinks that this is "doing good", then that's great.
motivations are important. gangbangers that give a lot of money to their neighborhoods are helping out some of those people (which is good), but it is so those people won't go to the po-po, not out of any goodness in their hears.
To me enough time has passed to indicate he's actually trying to do good rather than just repairing his image. He pled guilty nearly eight and a half years ago. That's a long ******* time. If the only thing he was sorry about was getting caught, I find it hard to believe that he would still be spending time on this stuff today. He's been collecting an NFL paycheck for 7 years since getting out of jail...it's not like he's been out of jail for 3 months and is trying to convince someone to give him another shot.
It is possible. Easy to look that way when you have an NFL contract and can afford handlers and people around to make sure you don't **** up. If I knew I'd be blowing a million dollar salary, i'd be as pure as the driven snow. of course, I would have never done some of the things he did to need to prove that, either.
What would you suggest he do, maybe continue to promote dog-fighting, instead of "rework his image"? Because he's been caught? I mean, ****, he's been caught, **** it; let's just keep promoting that type of activity, and that type of environment, because God forbid someone question someone if/when they try to get on the straight and narrow and put that **** behind them, etc etc.
It appears to me that he's trying to do good. I'm not concerned with his motivations, only that he's doing good, for himself, and for those around him. If he thinks that this is "doing good", then that's great.
Mostly. I have people here who I consider friends even though I have never met them. I still like to read what some people think about specific players and how they are doing this year. If I see someone post something that I think is incorrect, I chime in, sometimes. Sometimes I don't.
I don't participate in specific conversations about games or plays since I didn't see them. Most of my posts since the PoS was signed have been in G&G or GD.
I don't want Vick to die in a fire, I hope he has or, eventually does, become a better person. I've known several people who had been to jail and appeared to have turned over a new leaf only to revert when their probation/spot light was off of them.
I just don't want him on the team I have loved for so many years. I've told those who constantly *****, why they keep watching when the FO/Coaches make so many decisions they disagree with. How could I do any different? They made a decision that I think was bad (he isn't a good QB) or from what I think are the kind of people I want on the team. He, basically, currently, serves no purpose on the team. Less than Archer was. Therefore, I don't watch.
The people who tend to be the strongest advocates for walking the straight and narrow, tend to be people who at one time were far off the path. Former drunks, and drug addicts promoting sobriety comes to mind. People who find God after living all sorts of wild lifestyles. Some are fakes, some backslide, and some maintain their new lifestyle. Time will tell. The reason Vick incites so much controversy, is that there are some people who hold dogs in a level of esteem nearly as high as humans, while others don't regard them as being any more special than a deer, or even a fly. If you hold the former view, you're going to see Vick as a monster, if you hold the later, not so much.
im in that groupand then there is the people who likes their dogs more than the average person
that would be me
I don't care to revisit this ****. But because it is being talked about...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
But it boils me to hear **** like he served his time.
Best you say "IN YOUR EYES" \ because in my eyes he will always be the piece of **** that I know he is.
And no amount of look at me nows will convince me otherwise.
So if yinz one of those people that try to convince the world he has turned over a new leaf.
Good for you
count me in the club that knows there is no repairing what he did over and over and over and over again.
both our stances is ok but I pray this convo suffers a quick death because I am tired of people trying to convince me just how great that low life is now.
**** a Mike Vick
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