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Chicago cover up...this is really shameful...really.

what makes blacks so scary to other blacks? seems a lot of black people are murdered by other blacks also......

From what they have shown, it seems clear this cop is going to be convicted of murdering the kid, but quit acting like it is ONLY non-black folks shooting up black people
 
My question.

Why are you so certain the officer would not have reacted the same way to a non-compliant armed whit, Asian, or Hispanic miscreant?

I posit that the fact he is armed and non-compliant makes him more scary than his skin color.

But that would not fit anyone's agenda.


He is well within striking distance, armed and non-compliant,.

You shoot until the threat is over.

Was it excessive, so they say.

Are you thinking clearly once you start firing.....I highly doubt it.
 
You just heard about this today? Have you been in a cave? They have been protesting in Chicago for like a week.

I am not sure this guy was a racist. He very well may have been. Judging from the video, I would lean toward this cop probably would have done this to anyone, given the opportunity. ******** usually don't care who they are hurting.
 
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Here is an idea.

Leave your knife in your pocket and walk on teh ******* sidewalk like a civilized human being that is in control of his faculties.

If that is beyond you, maybe just maybe comply and drop the ******* weapon when surrounded by police officers pointing guns at you.

If you try these radical concepts out you just might not get shot 17 times.
 
Stop blaming the victim............this dipshit in uniform deposited 16 bullets in this young man, a lot more than was necessary for someone NOT presenting a threat.

Seems interesting that the police officer, his cohorts and the FOP all either lied, remained silent or attempted to cover-up this murder (this is what im gonna call it because that's what it is) and then to further incriminate themselves they resorted to gaining access to the surveillance footage and delete vital parts of this surveillance tape.

What sickens me is there are folks that want to support this bullshit.

Whether it was racial or not, at this point is moot. Theres a big problem in this country with law enforcement and its rogue cops and theres a lot of folks that seem to believe cops do no wrong. Its my views that cops need to be called out.....the so-called "good cops" need to start ratting out the rogue ones, else in my opinion, if youre spineless and look the other way when you see rogue action at work, and you do nothing, then there goes your label of "good" cop.

**** like this will continue to happen unless the system treats cops like civilians and nails their *****.........when you lie on a police report, its misrepresentation of facts and obstruction of justice. Why don't cops receive jail time for lying on police reports ?....its very common. And then to use the BS excuse "I felt like my life was in danger...". Oh really ? You have the gun, he has a small knife and video proves what you stated (he lunged at me...) was a lie. Off to jail you go for murder........
 
I don't support nor condone the actions after the fact, nor the shooting of the kid 16 times.
But, the victim would still be alive and able to walk down another street/sidewalk if he wasn't acting like a jackass and/or complied with police.

so, yes, you can "blame" the victim for his part of it.

you can also protest the popo for their actions afterwards.
 
oh, and the "good cops need to rat out the bad ones" is ok in this situation, but not for muslims, to some.
 
oh, and the "good cops need to rat out the bad ones" is ok in this situation, but not for muslims, to some.

You afraid of Muslims too ? You do realize that most of the terrorism in this country is conducted by folks that have your same skin color and worship under the label of "Christian". This is a fact.
 
You afraid of Muslims too ? You do realize that most of the terrorism in this country is conducted by folks that have your same skin color and worship under the label of "Christian". This is a fact.

"afraid"? no
aware? yes
 
I don't support nor condone the actions after the fact, nor the shooting of the kid 16 times.
But, the victim would still be alive and able to walk down another street/sidewalk if he wasn't acting like a jackass and/or complied with police.

so, yes, you can "blame" the victim for his part of it.

you can also protest the popo for their actions afterwards.

Agreed. Should have shot the kid 3 or 4 times. Enough of that obey the law silliness though.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/laquan-mcdonald-video_5654e329e4b079b281897fc2

I heard this on the radio just now - then decided to read the entire story...

Here's my question: "What makes black men so scary to those that are not black?"

This color hate/skin hate is really shameful. Really it is...

You should read an article by Constance Rice....shes a civil rights attorney that did work with LAPDs top brass and she worked alongside the department to try and bridge the gulf between police and the community.... and she tells of her interviews she conducted with police officers and how these officers would talk about their fear of black men. They weren't necessarily racists or bigots but just fearful of black men in general. One told her about how he perceived black men that came out of prison.....(quote from the article) "Ms. Rice, you know black men who come out of prison, they've got great hulk strength and I'm afraid they're going to kill me".

Often what happens is you have these men that spend very little off duty time in the areas they patrol. They have no understanding of black/hispanic culture. The operate on stigma and stereotypes and it fosters this fear in some. And when they encounter a black male, often times they have fear, adrenaline and this induces panic and this could explain why officers shoot up vehicles in Cleveland 135 times, or shoot a 12 yr old with a toy gun within 2 seconds of encountering him or shoot a motorist (Univ of Cincinnati) in the head when the motorist posed no threat.

Encounters between white officers and black suspects often end in brutal exchanges and death even if the suspects are unarmed. Blacks just appear too menacing to some white cops. Constance speaks about this in her article
 
I don't support nor condone the actions after the fact, nor the shooting of the kid 16 times.
But, the victim would still be alive and able to walk down another street/sidewalk if he wasn't acting like a jackass and/or complied with police.

so, yes, you can "blame" the victim for his part of it.

you can also protest the popo for their actions afterwards.

Bullshit.

The guy was walking away from the police not towards them and the only thing he had done with the knife was vandalize some cars while high as a billygoat. He was no threat to anyone at that point Supe. The cop shot him in the back,then the detectives "investigating" the shooting erased video from the Burger King across the street and delayed the release of the dashcam video and the indictment for over a year. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR BAD POLICE OFFICERS! It isn't a race thing its an anti-tyranny thing.
 
I have tried to remain out of this discussion, simply because I am not going to change anybody's mind, so what the ****? However, blitzburgh5' recent post deserves a response.

You should read an article by Constance Rice....shes a civil rights attorney that did work with LAPDs top brass and she worked alongside the department to try and bridge the gulf between police and the community.... and she tells of her interviews she conducted with police officers and how these officers would talk about their fear of black men. They weren't necessarily racists or bigots but just fearful of black men in general. One told her about how he perceived black men that came out of prison.....(quote from the article) "Ms. Rice, you know black men who come out of prison, they've got great hulk strength and I'm afraid they're going to kill me".

The only person who should NOT fear a large male just out of prison is ... well, ******* NOBODY. Large males just out of prison are vastly more likely to beat you, rob you, rape you (if you are a woman), or kill you.

An estimated two-thirds (68 percent) of 405,000 prisoners released in 30 states in 2005 were arrested for a new crime within three years of release from prison, and three-quarters (77 percent) were arrested within five years, per the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS).

More than a third (37 percent) of prisoners who were arrested within five years of release were arrested within the first six months after release, with more than half (57 percent) arrested by the end of the first year.

These findings are based on a BJS data collection, Recidivism of State Prisoners Released in 2005, which tracked a sample of former prison inmates from 30 states for five years following release in 2005.


http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/09/29/percent-of-released-prisoners-returning-to-incarceration/

The reason these cops are encountering black males is because they work in neighborhoods with a large percentage of blacks. Hence, the big guys just out of jail are ... black.

Only an idiot would not be wary of those guys. Would you leave your door open if you knew that a convicted felon was hanging around your house? Would you leave your keys in your car? If not, does that make you a racist ... or a realist?

Further, according to the US Department of Justice, blacks accounted for 52.5% of homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for blacks was almost 8 times higher than whites.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Therefore, being very concerned about the possibility that a criminal out of jail, and who is black, presents a genuine risk of harm is not racist, or dumb, or foolish; it is based on real life factors.

And I agree 100% that the substantial percentage of black citizens do not wish harm on the police. However, that provides no comfort since failure to take precaution can get you freaking killed. It's not like a cop can take a "mulligan" and be undead.

Often what happens is you have these men that spend very little off duty time in the areas they patrol. They have no understanding of black/hispanic culture. The operate on stigma and stereotypes and it fosters this fear in some. And when they encounter a black male, often times they have fear, adrenaline and this induces panic and this could explain why officers shoot up vehicles in Cleveland 135 times, or shoot a 12 yr old with a toy gun within 2 seconds of encountering him or shoot a motorist (Univ of Cincinnati) in the head when the motorist posed no threat.

Those events occur because police deal with the worst of the worst, every day, 365 days per year. You really think mistakes prove some racial bias? Jeez, Louise, doctors accidentally kill patients with vastly more regularity than cops mistakenly kill citizens.

According to a new study just out from the prestigious Journal of Patient Safety, four times as many people die from preventable medical errors than we thought, as many as 440,000 a year.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/leahbinder/2013/09/23/stunning-news-on-preventable-deaths-in-hospitals/

Are doctors killing patients due to bias, or racism? Or maybe because they work an incredibly difficult job, for long hours, where mistakes = dead people.

You know, like cops.

And this has nothing to do with "culture." It has to do with the fact that our society has a lot of very dangerous people. Have you ever seen the Richard Pryor skit where he talks about visiting a jail? Before he goes, he says he was looking forward to "being with my people" and seeing what oppression has done. After the visit, he says, "You know why these people are in jail? Because they are crazy. Thank God we have jails."

Encounters between white officers and black suspects often end in brutal exchanges and death even if the suspects are unarmed. Blacks just appear too menacing to some white cops. Constance speaks about this in her article

No, encounters between white officers and black suspects result in an unnecessary shooting an incredibly tiny fraction of the time - maybe 0.02%. Seriously, these events are so rare they are the subject of protests and news reports, while 25,000 times per day across this nation, white officers encounter black suspects.

I get my percentage by estimating 25,000 encounters a day, though that statistic is incredibly low and does not include traffic stops. 365 days per year yields 9,125,000 such encounters per year. Let's say an unfounded and unprovoked shooting occurs once every other day (it does not - it happens vastly less than that but **** it, I will go on the high end.) That means 182 unfounded shootings per year.

182 is 0.02% of 9,125,000.

Look, it would be great if the number were zero. But when violent criminals with little concern about the law or jail are drunk, or stoned, and regularly get into physical scuffles with armed police officers, people are going to get hurt - and some will die.

That's just the way it is.

And the concern over 180 shootings per year is not justified, given that the underlying cause of behavioral breakdown - single-parent families, young mothers ill-equipped for the task, lack of positive parental influence for a lot of kids, poor academic performance due to a lack of parental involvement, etc. - is basically ignored. This is really no different than obsessing over the fact that a Pop-Tart is being burnt because the house is burning down, and not giving a **** about the house.
 
the so-called "good cops" need to start ratting out the rogue ones, else in my opinion, if youre spineless and look the other way when you see rogue action at work, and you do nothing, then there goes your label of "good" cop.

This is a two way street. It would be helpful if the good members of the black community would rat out the bad ones. This would help police solve crimes, get criminals off the street and maybe even make predominantly black neighborhoods safer.

The lack of trust between police and black neighborhoods has been well earned. By both sides. Something has to give, because right now the lack of trust is completely circular.
 
Bullshit.

The guy was walking away from the police not towards them and the only thing he had done with the knife was vandalize some cars while high as a billygoat. He was no threat to anyone at that point Supe. The cop shot him in the back,then the detectives "investigating" the shooting erased video from the Burger King across the street and delayed the release of the dashcam video and the indictment for over a year. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR BAD POLICE OFFICERS! It isn't a race thing its an anti-tyranny thing.
Did I say I agreed with the actions of the cop?
No

I said if the ******* had either:
1) been walking on the sidewalk like a normal human being
Or
2) had complied with officer commands

That he'd most likely be able to walk down a street/sidewalk today.
 
Did I say I agreed with the actions of the cop?
No

I said if the ******* had either:
1) been walking on the sidewalk like a normal human being
Or
2) had complied with officer commands

That he'd most likely be able to walk down a street/sidewalk today.

You didn't condemn the actions of the cop.

The guy was allegedly high on PCP. He didn't have the capacity to do either of those things. Now that doesn't absolve him responsibility for his actions in damaging the cars he supposedly damaged but it sure as hell doesn't give the cops leave to murder him. What essentially happened here was a police officer summarily executed a man for public intoxication then the agency he worked for tried to keep him out of trouble for it by attempting to cover it up. You are trying to put the onus of what happened on the victim instead of the rogue public official who murdered him under color of his authority. These type of LEOs will eventually harm you or someone you care about if you don't hold them accountable.
 
what makes blacks so scary to other blacks? seems a lot of black people are murdered by other blacks also......

From what they have shown, it seems clear this cop is going to be convicted of murdering the kid, but quit acting like it is ONLY non-black folks shooting up black people

Criminals aren't doing it under color of lawful authority and having their murderous actions covered up buy other public officials. Its a bad comparison to equate crimes committed by citizens and crimes committed by public officials sworn to serve, protect and uphold the law.
 
how about this: don't break the law.

That goes for rogue cops too. If we are going to call ourselves conservatives lets conserve the rule of law. That means the law applies to everyone even public officials and so when a cop commits murder while on duty we get angry about it the way we get angry at criminals that murder innocents.
 
I didn't agree with the cop shooting the *******, DBS.
 
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