Complete F'n debacle

[SteelerSask2]

On so many levels. And I want to first say that Ben made key errors. But like a pitcher who uses downward force and the last pick was him not getting that downward snap that keeps the ball from sailing. That said the following was beyond understanding:
1. Why would you have a referee review of Blake being in bounds on the return. That is not a review able aspect. The turnover is.
2. If you are going to call a unsportsmanlike conduct for getting in people's faces I seriously think you should watch a Seahawk game.
3. The holding call was CLEARLY a vendictive flag based on something said in the review of the Miller stretch. Holding doesn't happen on those types of runs. It was two yards tackle. No cutback. He was calling a hold if they took a knee.
4. The boundary interception AT THE VERY LEAST REQUIRED A REVIEW. They never even showed one look that was defiant I've.
5. Tomlin not taking timeouts was inexcusable.
6. Though a legal tackle there are simply some things you don't do to other players out of respect for the game. If everyone used that tackling technique like that on Bell, no running back would survive the season.

 

[slashsteel]

I have to say Tomlin's biggest weakness (if not playing down to bad teams) is clock management.

There is no sugar coating his ignorance in this area.

I find it below the line, in spite of his pedigree.

Obviously he hasn't kicked over rocks in fixing this ongoing problem.

 

[GILBERT]

There were at LEAST 2 ist down conversion by Cincy late in game I thought deserved a red flag that would have set up 3rd downs.. don't get it.

 

[SteelerSask2]

You leave yourself with as much time as you can. You have out of bounds, clocking it. And if they ball up and get a first down you lose and live with it.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Well for sure the first down on the third down flip, Debi was held.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

On so many levels. And I want to first say that Ben made key errors. But like a pitcher who uses downward force and the last pick was him not getting that downward snap that keeps the ball from sailing. That said the following was beyond understanding:
1. Why would you have a referee review of Blake being in bounds on the return. That is not a review able aspect. The turnover is.
2. If you are going to call a unsportsmanlike conduct for getting in people's faces I seriously think you should watch a Seahawk game.
3. The holding call was CLEARLY a vendictive flag based on something said in the review of the Miller stretch. Holding doesn't happen on those types of runs. It was two yards tackle. No cutback. He was calling a hold if they took a knee.
4. The boundary interception AT THE VERY LEAST REQUIRED A REVIEW. They never even showed one look that was defiant I've.
5. Tomlin not taking timeouts was inexcusable.
6. Though a legal tackle there are simply some things you don't do to other players out of respect for the game. If everyone used that tackling technique like that on Bell, no running back would survive the season.

I was bitching about most of that on FB during the game. The refs waived off two and maybe three flags, reviewed calls that aren't reviewable like Bryant being in-bounds (Or was it out-of-bounds? ****, we don't know), and PI being almost non-existent today. I get that they didn't make Ben throw three INT's or bust up Bell's knee, but they did a terrible job. 15 yards for "getting in the face of another player". Oh, and there's offsetting penalties, number 68 on the defense and somebody on the offense but we don't know what number it was. But we do know that someone on the Steelers committed a penalty somewhere.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Let me add a debacle. When Bell was injured and Williams was gased they couldn't even put in Archer for one or two ****** plays. They put in AB. Why is he on this team. Why.

 

[slashsteel]

Let me add a debacle. When Bell was injured and Williams was gased they couldn't even put in Archer for one or two ****** plays. They put in AB. Why is he on this team. Why.

Not to mention he is back to running it out to the 10-15 yard line.

I will be cheering his exit.

 

[SteelerFan448]

On so many levels. And I want to first say that Ben made key errors. But like a pitcher who uses downward force and the last pick was him not getting that downward snap that keeps the ball from sailing. That said the following was beyond understanding:
1. Why would you have a referee review of Blake being in bounds on the return. That is not a review able aspect. The turnover is.

Never heard what actually went on with that. Steelers could have used the extra field position.

2. If you are going to call a unsportsmanlike conduct for getting in people's faces I seriously think you should watch a Seahawk game.

Those calls are lame a lot of the time, Harrison needs to keep his helmet on.

3. The holding call was CLEARLY a vendictive flag based on something said in the review of the Miller stretch. Holding doesn't happen on those types of runs. It was two yards tackle. No cutback. He was calling a hold if they took a knee.

The holding call on Miller was as weak as you'll ever see.

4. The boundary interception AT THE VERY LEAST REQUIRED A REVIEW. They never even showed one look that was defiant I've.

No need to waste our time on a clear interception. The in-stadium replay they showed was very definitive.

5. Tomlin not taking timeouts was inexcusable.

What else is new?

6. Though a legal tackle there are simply some things you don't do to other players out of respect for the game. If everyone used that tackling technique like that on Bell, no running back would survive the season.

A couple of blocks by the Bengals that took out our guys' legs. Dangerous plays.

 

[AggieSteel]

Let me add a debacle. When Bell was injured and Williams was gased they couldn't even put in Archer for one or two ****** plays. They put in AB. Why is he on this team. Why.

Yep even in the beginning of the season when we were missing Bell and Bryant both, Archer may have seen a handful of offensive snaps. It's ridiculous. He's a waste of a roster spot, and I don't even hate the kid. It's just.. why?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Yep even in the beginning of the season when we were missing Bell and Bryant both, Archer may have seen a handful of offensive snaps. It's ridiculous. He's a waste of a roster spot, and I don't even hate the kid. It's just.. why?

Tombert would much rather waste a roster spot than cut a relatively high draft pick and admit they made a mistake. It ain't Management 101 but it's up around Management 401 or whatever they call the Organizational Behavior course these days. By far the most valuable class I had in grad school.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Some very questionable calls, to say the least. I pointed out durring the game of some of those deficiencies and even a die hard cinci fan was agreeable, once they started to look at it.




Salute the nation

 

[SteelVictory]

The "..we don't have a number.." penalty was on Martavis Bryant. It was clear as day on the live TV broadcast, IIRC he tackled a guy by the facemask during the interception return.

here is the play-by-play from NFL.com
(2:57) (Shotgun) 7-B.Roethlisberger pass deep middle intended for 84-A.Brown INTERCEPTED by 20-R.Nelson [95-W.Gilberry] at PIT 40. 20-R.Nelson to PIT 2 for 38 yards (10-M.Bryant). Penalty on CIN-90-M.Johnson, Illegal Peelback, offsetting, enforced at PIT 26. Penalty on PIT-10-M.Bryant, Face Mask (15 Yards), offsetting.

 

[SteelVictory]

Did they ever show a replay of the Mike Mitchell taunting penalty?
Saw plenty of people on twitter pissed off at him about it, but I never saw what he actually did.

 

[Steel G]

And how often do you see a defensive pass interference flag picked up when it wasn't ruled an uncatchable ball? I have a hard time believing a Steeler DB ever had one picked up for him in my lifetime.

 

[Steel G]

Did they ever show a replay of the Mike Mitchell taunting penalty?
Saw plenty of people on twitter pissed off at him about it, but I never saw what he actually did.

Yeah, he got in the face of Green and the two were jawing away at one another. He shouldn't have done it, but I think it was a bullshit flag.

 

[mightyguru]

Yeah, he got in the face of Green and the two were jawing away at one another. He shouldn't have done it, but I think it was a bullshit flag.

Total BS flag. Passing each other, jawing at each other for 2 seconds...but MM gets the flag. Insane.

 

[Steel Vanguard]

I have to say Tomlin's biggest weakness (if not playing down to bad teams) is clock management.

There is no sugar coating his ignorance in this area.

I find it below the line, in spite of his pedigree.

Obviously he hasn't kicked over rocks in fixing this ongoing problem.

You're right. It wasn't the interceptions or injuries or field position that cost us the game, it was Tomiln's clock management.

What planet do you live on?

 

[Super Dave]

You're right. It wasn't the interceptions or injuries or field position that cost us the game, it was Tomiln's clock management.

What planet do you live on?

He lives on Earth. What planet do you live on?

 

[slashsteel]

You're right. It wasn't the interceptions or injuries or field position that cost us the game, it was Tomiln's clock management.

What planet do you live on?

I was pointing out hs greatest weaknesses, other threads I pointed out the pecking order assigning blame for the loss.

I live on planet earth were my reading comprehension is solid.

Wherever you are from,

not so much.



























































hi

 

[Steeleers]

Did they ever show a replay of the Mike Mitchell taunting penalty?
Saw plenty of people on twitter pissed off at him about it, but I never saw what he actually did.

IIRC, after he hit Marvin Jones (you know the play, Jones got folded in half while stretching for the ball), he allegedly then confronted AJ Green and said, "You're next!"

Within earshot of the ref. Stupid. The flag was more than likely deserved,

 

[Yinzerlyn]

It wasn't just our game that had atrocious referees. The Dallas- Seattle game had some calls that left me yelling at the TV- and I don't even have a stake in the game. This whole "must make a football move" rule needs to be reviewed/done away with altogether. I believe it was Dez who had caught the ball then fumbled. It didn't look like he made the appropriate "football move" but it was ruled a catch. So many other times, it's the opposite way- and it's usually at a key point in the game where it ***** up. That game also had the Seahawks take 2 consecutive time outs, which you can't do. The refs let it go. I didn't get the reasoning behind why.

The reffing across the NFL is horrendous.

 

[Rod Farva]

Ironic that Mike Careywas on the pre game extolling the virtues and brilliance of the officiating in the NFL........Cowher called him on it and said that they need to be "professionals" and full time just like coaches so they can prepare. he also decried the idiocy of the "what is a catch" bs.

To me the entire downfall yesterday started with the holding call on Gilbert in the red zone. The replay showed his "hold" to be the classic James Harrison clothesline block that the entire league has been getting away with for years.

 

[Troglodyte]

You're right. It wasn't the interceptions or injuries or field position that cost us the game, it was Tomiln's clock management.

What planet do you live on?

The planet that affords the offense 3 different ways to stop the clock and the defense only 1.

I welcome you and Tomlin to planet earth.

 

[blitzburghv5]

This team was coached well enough to win, but the players executed poorly enough to have cost us the game. I just cant gather in my head how this loss goes to Tomlin again....and its the same cast and crew that places him in the crosshairs of criticism when Ben obviously played one of his shittiest halves of football and gave the ball back to Cincy twice in the final seven minutes. Threw as many INTs THIS GAME as his backups threw combined in the four games he missed. Bens number one job is execution...his number two job is protect the damn football. If he throws 3 INTs any game we know the outcome. One thing is for sure...coaching didn't design it that way.