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The Bruce

ha - i go to the gym 5-6 times per week, an hour at a time.
 
soap's slippery. not that you'd know.
 
I've never really had any feeling toward the Cardinals, but it sure felt good to beat Bruce Arians with Vick and Jones yesterday and shut down Arizona's offense.
 
steelhurt said:
He certainly shouldn't take another snap in the NFL. Jones played well enough and the offense clicked with him in there so to go back to Vick would clearly be a stupid Tomlin decision.
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I thought this Board was almost unanimous that keeping Landry Jones was a stupid Tomlin decision. (before yesterday)
 
steelhurt said:
The Bruce has demonstrtaed that he is a very good head coach in the NFL. Two time Coach of the year and has done a phenominal job in Arizona with an over the hill QB in Carson Palmer. Three turnovers ain't going to get you a win in most cases and also to the STeelers credit, they shut down the Card's running game. That was huge.

Lets see who Tomlin starts against KC if Ben can't go and if Vick is declared fit to play. Don't be surprised if he goes with his boy Vick if he can play.
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Really??? Really?? Really?
 
obxsteeler said:
I thought this Board was almost unanimous that keeping Landry Jones was a stupid Tomlin decision. (before yesterday)
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I don't think anyone honestly believes Jones is as good as he was yesterday. I don't know how good he is. All I have seen him do is play with guys that for the most part, are sacking groceries right now. Maybe playing with the starters made him better than what we have seen. What I do know, is that based on his performance yesterday coupled with Vick's performance yesterday, to date really, earns him the start at KC if Ben can't go.

Everything changed when Jones came in. They opened up the playbook and the offense took off.

My whole problem with Vick is that if you don't trust him to run most of the passing plays in the playbook, and his performance sucks on the plays you do let him run, why is he on the damn field? He is done as a player in this league. He was never a good QB, but was able to get by because he was a fantastic athlete. Now he doesn't even have that, really.

He was 2-4 for one yard at the half. 3-8 for 6 yards when he was injured. Yet our coaches were ready to trot him out there to accomplish what? Hand off to Bell?

This whole episode makes no sense. He had no redeeming value to the Steelers. But for some reason, he is being forced into an offense that he doesn't fit into. It just doesn't make any sense.
 
Superman said:
well, yeah, but see, Vick's already told the media he's "at least a week from being able to play" per the ticker on ESPN when I was at the gym.
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Steeltime said:
Holy ****, Supe, that is freaking unbelievable ...

You were at the gym??
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Soup is like rocky belboa of the gym,...........Weather he's winning or losing, the gym still needs to be cleaned..........(explains the 5 or 6)




Salute the nation
 
obxsteeler said:
I thought this Board was almost unanimous that keeping Landry Jones was a stupid Tomlin decision. (before yesterday)
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I revisited a few threads started back in August. Folks were highly critical that the team retained Landry.
 
Landry probably shocked more than the fans with his poise yesterday...hell, he probably even shocked himself.
 
blitzburghv5 said:
I revisited a few threads started back in August. Folks were highly critical that the team retained Landry.
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Meh. If he was placed on the practice squad I don't think anyone would of had a big issue with him then. The fact he took a roster spot is what people had an issue with. Me included.
 
blitzburghv5 said:
Landry probably shocked more than the fans with his poise yesterday...hell, he probably even shocked himself.
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I'm worried about the next game because he has all week to think about it.
 
Just to get the thread back on track, I was on my way home from the gym tonight and had CBS Sports on the radio. They were interviewing Larry Fitz and the first question was "How do you feel when your team drives up and down the field all day but can't seem to score?" and I LOL'd.
 
stillwright said:
Meh. If he was placed on the practice squad I don't think anyone would of had a big issue with him then. The fact he took a roster spot is what people had an issue with. Me included.
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Reading comments nobody mentioned PS.....comments like "hes not cut out for the NFL...." or "the coaches/scouts really ****** up wasting a pick on this kid. He doesn't have the tools and cant even cut it vs 2nd/3rd string quality". Folks only wanted to carry 2 QBs and use Tyler Murphy as an emergency fallback option. Landry is the third most maligned player in this forum.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Just to get the thread back on track, I was on my way home from the gym tonight and had CBS Sports on the radio. They were interviewing Larry Fitz and the first question was "How do you feel when your team drives up and down the field all day but can't seem to score?" and I LOL'd.
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All week is was about the return to the Burgh for Bruce and how he wanted to light the Steelers up and prove him being fired was a big mistake by the organization. He wanted to make a statement and if they could've put 40 on us, he wouldn't hesitate loadin em up on us.

And then 13 pts happened. .....lowest output of the season. He's pissed.....he got spanked by a what would equate to a rookie (Landry's first snaps in a reg season game). Lost an opportunity to create distance between the rest of the NFC west and now the team has questions about whether they can win vs a team above .500
 
I posted an article when Landry was drafted how his college metrics (wins/games played/completion %) was this highest in his draft class. This metric is the best current predictor for NFL success. Right now he's having some. I think the best case scenario is for him to have a monster game in KC this week. Ben returns the following week and we're back on track. Though Jones will have 1 1/2 games of great success that we can hopefully turn into a high draft pick. Since it's a QB we could hope for a 1-3 round pick depending on how he does.

Now the reason I want to turn him into a draft pick is because he has one year left on his contract. If you can maximize your return on that investment, you take it. Especially since he will be wanting another contract the following year and his value may not be as hot. Shaub and many Eagles backups have shown you don't need a lot of in game action to get a great pick for a limited commodity. QBs warrant a higher draft value than any other position. Getting another 1 or 2 would be a huge draft advantage to finding new talent!
 
obxsteeler said:
I thought this Board was almost unanimous that keeping Landry Jones was a stupid Tomlin decision. (before yesterday)
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I believe the majority decision was if he's not good enough to be a number 2 for us it's stupid to keep him on the roster . Absolutely nothing points to Tomlin genius when it takes an injury to Vick to get Landry on the field which was what the game thread was screaming for. (Not the injury)
 
Arians style is that "High-Risk -- High Reward" which seldom seemed to yield the reward as much as the risk. I mean damn, in Super Bowl 43 he had 19 cracks at goal to go and came away with only 2 TDs -- one of which was the miracle toe tap by Holmes.

I saw the same thing of Palmer yesterday that I saw of Ben for years, big plays, yards, not converting and low TDs -- high INTs. Not to diminish Palmer as he is a good QB, its the system he is in.

Arians style of offense is yesterday, kind of like LeBeau's defense.
 
It was surely a blessed sight to see Bruce just looked stunned, dumbfounded when Landry the Moustache Jones changed the whole dynamics of our offense. And then again even more priceless as he watched THE ALIEN abuse the honey-badger and just run away from Peterson and the entire ARiz secondary. And did you guys notice Heath's hustle to provide interference on that 88 yd thing of beauty by MB.
 
I did take notice, however, to Arian's calling the usual amount of screen plays. The difference this time, is that they worked really well picking up 6-8 yards easily.

Alternatively, we still have Bruce's old screen plays that Haley calls, which is to throw the screen 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage with 2 blockers out front to try and block 4 defenders. So while **** Bruce Arians, he at least made his signature screen play work. So there's that.
 
Southern Burgh said:
I did take notice, however, to Arian's calling the usual amount of screen plays. The difference this time, is that they worked really well picking up 6-8 yards easily.

Alternatively, we still have Bruce's old screen plays that Haley calls, which is to throw the screen 4 yards behind the line of scrimmage with 2 blockers out front to try and block 4 defenders. So while **** Bruce Arians, he at least made his signature screen play work. So there's that.
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You do realize the screen(4 yds behind the LOS) has been the only pass Vick has been able to complete. Vick ineptness put the handcuffs on Haley's play calling to a point that it was mind boggling that Vick was in there to begin with.
 
I was not a A fan but he has earned his spot, as a head coach and I wish him well. ESPECIALLY AFTER WE BEAT HIM SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Southern Burgh said:
I did take notice, however, to Arian's calling the usual amount of screen plays. The difference this time, is that they worked really well picking up 6-8 yards easily.
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The people who keep track of these types of things found that Arians' much maligned bubble screens on average were successful plays while he was our OC. Yet another Yinzer narrative that turns out to be false.
 
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