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Excluding Tom Brady...who is the one nfl player you can't stand?

Beckham Jr. is a good choice, though I think he's just overexposed. Yes, I get that he can catch the ball with one hand. So can just about every other receiver in the league.

Flacco and Rivers are on my list. Steve Smith rubs me the wrong way as well. A lot of the other guys on my list have retired.
 
madinsomniac said:
not really... slightly lower Td percentage than ben, lower Int % as well though... about 50 more yards per game but also always in a passing O
64% completion% to 61.5% 7.3 YPa to 7.7...its pretty close other than ben having a much better win loss record... ben has some stat advantages, manning others.
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38tds to 24 ints 88.5 qb rating
21 tds 19 ints 83.3 qb rating
stop it its not close



ben was horrific in his first sb. horrific in the arc champ game against the jets all games he got wins in. manning never had a defense close, his numbers are better bottom line. thats why ben has never won a playoff game without a top defense

you know what else mark sanchez playoff number dwarf both of them, so basically they're both overrated underachieving playoff number guys. one was lucky to have elite defenses to bail him out and thats a fact
 
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Marshawn Lynch.
 
Luck has a creepy voice. When he talks all i hear is "It puts the lotion on it's skin"

I hate Suggs. He's a good player but he's nowhere near as great as his level of praise.

Edelman. I never gave him a second thought until this year. All of a sudden he's a trash talker. I bet he's on PEDs.

Kaepernick. He thinks he's a model and acts like he's an all pro. He benefited from the year and a half period where NFL teams were confused by read option. Take that away and he sucks.

Arian Foster. He's a vegan which is a strike right there, but he also comes off as a guy who thinks he's brilliant when he's not.

Carson Palmer. Stole the heisman from Larry Johnson because he had a big game vs Notre Dame.

Odell Beckham - seems like he's a diva
 
Foster is a total douche bag with his feaux wisdom and insight.
 
Richard Sherman - he is overrated. The reason he is so good is because he has 2 all pro safeties backing him up and a fierce pass rush. He only has to cover a limited area for a short time and he can take chances because the safeties behind him are so good. He's very good at doing role but i don't think he's a great CB overall. He's a great CB like Welker was a great WR.
 
Xc944 said:
38tds to 24 ints 88.5 qb rating
21 tds 19 ints 83.3 qb rating
stop it its not close



ben was horrific in his first sb. horrific in the arc champ game against the jets all games he got wins in. manning never had a defense close, his numbers are better bottom line. thats why ben has never won a playoff game without a top defense

you know what else mark sanchez playoff number dwarf both of them, so basically they're both overrated underachieving playoff number guys. one was lucky to have elite defenses to bail him out and thats a fact
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So manning who is 6 years older and has significantly more playoff games AND played all of them in a pass first Manning centric offense has more total yardage and Tds? who the **** cares? on a game by game and play by play basis Ben is every bit as good or better in the playoffs... a ton of feather or a ton of bricks weigh the same... you just need more space for the feathers.... and Manning has had elite defense at times too... including now... its a total lie that he had no d his whole existance... outside of a few years early in his career manning has played with average to great D's
 
If we are talking active players, than it has to be anyone in a Patriots and Ravens uniform. Something about those things turn dudes into douchebags. Coaches it has to be Billacheat then Whinebaugh. Past players, which equals to announcers anymore, I would have to say I absolutely despise Phil Simms. He does our games all the damn time and I watch them muted while posting on the board. Ugh! Phil Simms is the absolute worst. He was a douche player as well.
 
madinsomniac said:
So manning who is 6 years older and has significantly more playoff games AND played all of them in a pass first Manning centric offense has more total yardage and Tds? who the **** cares? on a game by game and play by play basis Ben is every bit as good or better in the playoffs... a ton of feather or a ton of bricks weigh the same... you just need more space for the feathers.... and Manning has had elite defense at times too... including now... its a total lie that he had no d his whole existance... outside of a few years early in his career manning has played with average to great D's
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Really so Ben play for play throwing a int for every td is playing as good. 100% wrong Ben wouldn't have a Super Bowl win if he was on the colts. Peyton has put up a lot of points in many playoff losses Ben has been horrendous in two huge wins that no ther qb has ever had. Ben played good in 05 and since then he hasn't been good in the playoffs those are he facts. The numbers back it up
 
Edelman is number 2, easily.

Just don't act like a douchenozzle while you are being highly compensated for playing a game you love.

Coaches: belliche*t, Harbage, Ryan
Owners: Kr*pfft, Jerra, Ralph Wilson, Spanos, biscotti.
 
Confluence said:
Edelman is number 2, easily.

Just don't act like a douchenozzle while you are being highly compensated for playing a game you love.

Coaches: belliche*t, Harbage, Ryan
Owners: Kr*pfft, Jerra, Ralph Wilson, Spanos, biscotti.
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Edeleman had a damn good SB game against Seattle. You can hate him all you want but he is a decent player. As much as I hate those cheating ******* in NE. They have a knack for finding talent. Or at least getting something out of the ammunition they have
 
JUST for the record, how much of good, is the cheating? ANYTHING related to the cheatriots has cheating involved. Did edlem*n benefit from some part of cheating??? ALL players, innocent or guilty, will have that stigma about them. I feel for the truely innocent ones, but, truely feel the guilty should be boiled first and then BBQed.



Salute the nation
 
if you think Beckham Jr. is a diva, then AB is not far behind him.

For me: Fucco, Boldin and Suggs. Actually, any Raven past or present. And any Patriot, too.

John Harbaugh is right up there at the top(non-player). Biggest smug, whiner on the planet. It's a shame he is a good coach, but he makes my skin crawl.

I don't necessarily hate Blount for walking out on the team and winning a SB. He wanted to play, he did and helped the Deflators win a title. We could have handled it a lot different, but had no back-up plan if Bell went down. **** happens, I guess.
 
Drew Brees. Get so tired of hearing how great he is. Basically he's the greatest stat padder this side of Dan Marino.
 
Deangelo Hall is a punk. Steve Smith is a straight up ***** after last week's game.
 
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