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This defense needs to play aggressive. I don't care if they lead the league in giving up big plays. If they can get to the top half off turnovers and get off of the field consistently on third they will be fine. What they absolutely cannot do is give up long drives that keep the offense off the field and lose the turnover battle because of one or two bad plays on offense. Problem is I think cool shades sees it opposite.
 
I've always felt that way. I would much rather watch the defense play aggressive, press coverage, blitzing, etc. vs passive. At least then it looks like they are trying.
 
This defense needs a solid NT. The 3-4 only works if the 3 linemen, especially the NT can eat up blockers. I say plug in McCullers. Eat up some blockers and the linebacking group can be a factor again
 
All for it. Who exactly are the aggressive players?

Serious question.

Heyward, Deebo, and Timmons. Maybe Gay. The other 7 jabronis wouldn't start for any other team in the league.
 
I disagree

So if they run around really really fast doing nothing, that's an accomplishment? Look busy men!

What they absolutely cannot do is give up the big play, it puts all the burden on the O to score every time, that's what's killed them in the past.
 
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All for it. Who exactly are the aggressive players?

Serious question.
Shazier, Heyward and Timmons and I believe Tuitt should be absolute studs. But more than that any one of these players can be aggressive smart gamblers if they are coached up well on film taking calculated risks. I just don't want to see them play catch and tackle. The Pats are starting an undreafted FA at corner. Thus defense easily has as much talent. But it has to be used correctly.
 
Shazier, Heyward and Timmons and I believe Tuitt should be absolute studs. But more than that any one of these players can be aggressive smart gamblers if they are coached up well on film taking calculated risks. I just don't want to see them play catch and tackle. The Pats are starting an undreafted FA at corner. Thus defense easily has as much talent. But it has to be used correctly.

Agreed. This team needs to play with some fire. Just feel like not all the talent is there on the defensive side of the ball
 
I disagree

So if they run around really really fast doing nothing, that's an accomplishment? Look busy men!

What they absolutely cannot do is give up the big play, it puts all the burden on the O to score every time, that's what's killed them in the past.

I hear you Spike, but I personally detest the 10 yard cushion on 3rd and short. I imagine we will continue to see it and continue to give up 80 yd drives that take 8 minutes off the clock
We obviously need to come to some balance here. Be aggressive at times. If that means pressing on third and one so the opposing team doesn't get an all but automatic first down but exposing yourself at times down field then so be it. Mix it up Butler...Please!!!!!
 
Play aggressive and hit Marsha tonight. They MUST hit him early and often even if they don't get the sack. Take a 15 yarder or 2 if you have to but hit him hard.
 
I disagree

So if they run around really really fast doing nothing, that's an accomplishment?
Well, that's who Tombert drafts for defense. Guys who run really fast and don't do much else.

What they absolutely cannot do is give up the big play, it puts all the burden on the O to score every time, that's what's killed them in the past.
Br*dy rarely killed us with big plays. He killed us with accurate short and medium range passes which LeBeau's defense couldn't cover with that 10-15 yard cushion. I always said the Pats** were LeBeau's kryptonite. We'll see what Butler has come up with, although again he doesn't have **** for talent to work with.
 
My hope on defense is that they have something up their sleave that they've been sandbagging.
 
Well, that's who Tombert drafts for defense. Guys who run really fast and don't do much else.


Br*dy rarely killed us with big plays. He killed us with accurate short and medium range passes which LeBeau's defense couldn't cover with that 10-15 yard cushion. I always said the Pats** were LeBeau's kryptonite. We'll see what Butler has come up with, although again he doesn't have **** for talent to work with.

I wasn't talking about just this game, but yeah it does come down to bad choices in talent evaluation too


Cortez Allen – in the first season of a four-year, $24.6 million contract


http://overthecap.com/player/cortez-allen/1588/



Don't forget about that move

and now the asswhack


If Boykin plays at least 60% of snaps for the Steelers, the Eagles get a 4th round pick in 2016

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/08...s-4th-in-2016/
 
I wasn't talking about just this game, but yeah it does come down to bad choices in talent evaluation too


Cortez Allen – in the first season of a four-year, $24.6 million contract


http://overthecap.com/player/cortez-allen/1588/



Don't forget about that move

and now the asswhack


If Boykin plays at least 60% of snaps for the Steelers, the Eagles get a 4th round pick in 2016

http://www.Invalid Link - Check SN Home Page/2015/08...s-4th-in-2016/

But giving a 4th for Boykin would mean that the guy was part of the starting team making him a valuable asset. Look at our CB picks on 3rd and 4th rounds Crezdon Butler, Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen, Grant (who didn´t make the roster), put Shamarko in there too. I wouldn't mind losing a 4th for a starting vet at a critical position
 
But giving a 4th for Boykin would mean that the guy was part of the starting team making him a valuable asset

and he's off to a fine start


Brandon Boykin is expected to open the season as the Steelers' No. 4 cornerback.
 
and he's off to a fine start


Brandon Boykin is expected to open the season as the Steelers' No. 4 cornerback.

yeap, as said in another thread that might be due to being new in the scheme. He didn't have a full camp with the team
 
Heyward, Deebo, and Timmons. Maybe Gay. The other 7 jabronis wouldn't start for any other team in the league.

I'm not even sure if Tomlin is starting Deebo. He should the man has earned it, and outplayed J Jones
 
I'm not even sure if Tomlin is starting Deebo. He should the man has earned it, and outplayed J Jones

keep him fresh for the final run, he's no spring chicken
 
I don't care what they do other than getting rid of the ten yard corner cushions on third and short. It's been a staple of the defense for twenty years and has to go. The Queen of dink and dunk starts for the *Patsies. As for Boykin? I would trade a four who is a could be maybe next year for a guy who plays sixty percent of the snaps. Either he's good enough to be on the field, or we are bad enough to put him on the field. Either way, the draft is a crap shoot.
 
Please just let the defense be different schematically than what they showed in preseason..
 
I disagree

So if they run around really really fast doing nothing, that's an accomplishment? Look busy men!

What they absolutely cannot do is give up the big play, it puts all the burden on the O to score every time, that's what's killed them in the past.
Yes that is what I said. They should run around aimlessly, but quickly. No. what I'm saying is that if you think that you can make an interception, but you might give up a TD. Go for it. Don't stand there and let him catch it. If you think if you can slant left and disrupt the play and get a sack, do it. Much worse than one play that goes for 60 yards is 8 plays that go for 60 yards and eat up 7 minutes. More importantly, if they create no turnovers again like the first part of last year, they will lose the turnover battle and lose games. You can't win the turnover battle with no interceptions and fumble recoveries. Very simple.
 
I'm not even sure if Tomlin is starting Deebo. He should the man has earned it, and outplayed J Jones
Harrison cannot play every down for the season. Regardless if you call him the starter, it is a rotation. You cannot save him for the end of the year, because it might not matter. Play him on his pitch count. If you think he is better in key circumstances than Jarvis, which I think anyone with eyes would, put him in then.
 
Jam the receivers at the line within the five yard window....Edelman and Amendola are not big or physical receivers. Disrupt, disrupt and disrupt....force Brady to hold it longer...if u take away Edelman, hes gonna resort to Gronk.....he always does. If we lose, its gonna be because Gronk play huge.....id rather focus on shutting Gronk down and letting the other two beat us. Edelman is a pinky thump away from concussion protocol and Amendola is a carpet seam trip from IR. Neither of those cats strike fear in me. Gronk, however, does.

Pressure has to come from somewhere on defense....stunt....put some contact on Brady....the more we tag his *** even if he does get the ball out, the more squeamish he will get as the game goes on and that physical brand of legal hits will cause him to flinch and swing it quicker than he wants to resulting in INTs or incompletions. Whatever we do, we need to generate pressure. Its a must.
 
Absolutely no reason Shazier can't run with Gronk. Gronk is a big dude no doubt and that creates some physical mismatch, but Shazier isn't tiny either.
 
Giving up that big play is exactly what has me stressed the eff out.
 
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