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Degree of excitement…………….

bigben said:
Vrabel took a second year QB to a 14-3 record, 3 straight playoff wins and the superbowl?
No Tomlin tree coach will ever accomplish anything remotely close to that.
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What tree is Vrabel off of? He never coached under Belechick. Would he be from Bill O'Brien? Or Belechick through O'Brien?
You certainly dont have to agree with me, but I think the whole discussion about trees is dumb. At the end of the day a coach has to be his own man. Sure you learn things, but maybe part of Vrabel's success as opposed to other guys associated with Belechick is because he hasn't tried to be like him.
 
And to me, this has one damn thing to do with Tomlin. I don’t like the coaching tree discussion regardless of who.

And it's always Tomlin with some of you guys. Which proves what I've thought for years. Those who disliked him were far more passionate about their dislike than those of us who tried to give him the benefit of the doubt were passionate about that. He's gone and I'm happy for change. Let him go.
 
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diver said:
And to me, this has one damn thing to do with Tomlin. I don’t like the coaching tree discussion regardless of who.

And it's always Tomlin with some of you guys. Which proves what I've thought for years. Those who disliked him were far more passionate about their dislike than those of us who tried to give him the benefit of the doubt were passionate about that. He's gone and I'm happy for change. Let him go.
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Yet,here you are yapping about him nonstop. 🤪
 
Steelr4evr said:
We have everything going for us,which is the element of surprise and a **** ton of new.

Two things come with a bunch of new,that are good and bad. Growing pains and the unpredictability of other teams not knowing what the Steelers are going to do. The same old Steelers are no more.


I see a large new coaching staff with a clear tactical advantage.

They're not having any joint training camp practices with other teams this year for a reason.

I still expect a vanilla preseason that really doesn't show a lot and the vets don't play much. It serves no good purpose to put on film what you're doing to actually do when it counts.

I'm certainly more optimistic than I've been the last 10+ years,when I knew after a few games that this is what we would do for the entire season no matter what.

Because nothing ever changed in season.


The season will go as the offensive and defensive lines go. They obviously think they can win this year or they wouldn't have brought back Rodgers. He still has the arm and the mind to play championship football,but if the OL doesn't play above the line ,it won't matter at all.

Anything that moves this team toward achieving a seventh Superbowl Championship is alright by me.
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Lots of things have to go right. Injuries obviously one of them. If they can't make a run with this group, I hope they start thinking longer term and they try to build a championship team over 5 years and realize they need to build hard through the draft especially QB. We tried so many times to win post Bradshaw with great Ds and couldn't get it done until Ben came along. At some point I hope they accept that if they don't have a stud QB it's futile to.try to win the big one
 
diver said:
What tree is Vrabel off of? He never coached under Belechick. Would he be from Bill O'Brien? Or Belechick through O'Brien?
You certainly dont have to agree with me, but I think the whole discussion about trees is dumb. At the end of the day a coach has to be his own man. Sure you learn things, but maybe part of Vrabel's success as opposed to other guys associated with Belechick is because he hasn't tried to be like him.
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Here's my short take on Mikey boy

He had a lot of very good qualities as a head coach and it brought him winning records and a bunch of playoff wins earlier in his career.

He had some flaws and it prevented him from really excelling in the playoffs in the back half of his career.

He was a good coach but a flawed coach. It was what it was. He has my respect but I'm glad he's gone
 
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