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Shooter at the White House correspondents dinner

Troglodyte said:
Tom Massie kindly asks WTF are you talking about?
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How does Tom Massie change the fact that BOTH sides unanimously agreed to the RULES (look up the definition, I know it escapes you) on HOW the information was to be released and what was to be redacted.

You questioned "both sides?" Yes indeed, it was both sides. Take the L.

Now you complain about how it was released and want to blame one side. You don't like how it was released? Blame both sides. I know this is literally impossible for you to do.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
How does Tom Massie change the fact that BOTH sides unanimously agreed to the RULES (look up the definition, I know it escapes you) on HOW the information was to be released and what was to be redacted.

You questioned "both sides?" Yes indeed, it was both sides. Take the L.

Now you complain about how it was released and want to blame one side. You don't like how it was released? Blame both sides. I know this is literally impossible for you to do.
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Ain't speculation great, it allows the mind to freely wander wherever you want. It's literally all the left has.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
How does Tom Massie change the fact that BOTH sides unanimously agreed to the RULES (look up the definition, I know it escapes you) on HOW the information was to be released and what was to be redacted.

You questioned "both sides?" Yes indeed, it was both sides. Take the L.

Now you complain about how it was released and want to blame one side. You don't like how it was released? Blame both sides. I know this is literally impossible for you to do.
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Again, WTF are you talking about? The people who made the rules regarding redactions are different than the people who did the redactions, erroneously no less. You defended them saying it was in the interest of protecting the victims. It was not, you were wrong.
 
Troglodyte said:
Again, WTF are you talking about?
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Once again, you've lost all train of thought and the point of the debate after two posts. Let's go back just a few posts when you questioned that it was "both sides?" inferring it was not both sides that established the rules. You took your asskicking and morphed to Thomas Massie. Indeed, WTF.

So now you're on to the following (so as to move off of the topic you've been humiliated on:

Troglodyte said:
The people who made the rules regarding redactions are different than the people who did the redactions, erroneously no less. You defended them saying it was in the interest of protecting the victims. It was not, you were wrong.
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So now it's not Thomas Massie, it's not saying only one side made the rules, now you're hyper-focusing on the word "erroneous".

You've made up your mind that the redactions were all wrong so you can try to point your finger at the DOJ. But see, a quick search of the interwebs (research, you should try it sometime) say your conclusion is false. It's your opinion, not fact.

Summary:
  • Many feel rules in the Epstein Files Transparency Act were not consistently followed—but it’s disputed
  • Legally: The DOJ claims it generally complied with the Act.
  • Practically / politically: There is substantial bipartisan criticism and evidence that: Some redactions violated the law’s limits; Others were poorly executed or inconsistent; Victim protections were unevenly applied
  • Status: Still under investigation and dispute—no definitive ruling yet.
  • There’s credible evidence of both over-redaction (possibly illegal) and under-redaction (privacy failures)
But yep, sure, betcha...your religious leaders have told you the release was just full of errors and like a good cult member, you've drunk the Kool-aid.

Now...back to the shooting at the White House, shall we?
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Once again, you've lost all train of thought and the point of the debate after two posts. Let's go back just a few posts when you questioned that it was "both sides?" inferring it was not both sides that established the rules. You took your asskicking and morphed to Thomas Massie. Indeed, WTF.

So now you're on to the following (so as to move off of the topic you've been humiliated on:



So now it's not Thomas Massie, it's not saying only one side made the rules, now you're hyper-focusing on the word "erroneous".

You've made up your mind that the redactions were all wrong so you can try to point your finger at the DOJ. But see, a quick search of the interwebs (research, you should try it sometime) say your conclusion is false. It's your opinion, not fact.

Summary:
  • Many feel rules in the Epstein Files Transparency Act were not consistently followed—but it’s disputed
  • Legally: The DOJ claims it generally complied with the Act.
  • Practically / politically: There is substantial bipartisan criticism and evidence that: Some redactions violated the law’s limits; Others were poorly executed or inconsistent; Victim protections were unevenly applied
  • Status: Still under investigation and dispute—no definitive ruling yet.
  • There’s credible evidence of both over-redaction (possibly illegal) and under-redaction (privacy failures)
But yep, sure, betcha...your religious leaders have told you the release was just full of errors and like a good cult member, you've drunk the Kool-aid.

Now...back to the shooting at the White House, shall we?
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They literally ceased the release of the files you supposedly wanted released and you somehow defend them. Blissfully ignorant.
 
Troglodyte said:
They literally ceased the release of the files you supposedly wanted released and you somehow defend them. Blissfully ignorant.
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Blissfully ignorant is making the statement above when it's not a fact. As I said in the prior post, it's your opinion based upon your biased TDS-hating news sources.

From your very own liberaly-biased ChatGPT:

Short answer: No, the Department of Justice (DOJ) has not formally “ceased” releasing Epstein files—but the main bulk of releases has already occurred, and further releases have largely stalled amid disputes, audits, and legal challenges.

Now, can I kindly encourage you, Captain Deflector, Wonder Woman, and Lily-Pad Hopper, to take this to the Epstein thread?

We are trying to discuss the White House Shooter in this thread, the guy you wish had succeeded.
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
Blissfully ignorant is making the statement above when it's not a fact. As I said in the prior post, it's your opinion based upon your biased TDS-hating news sources.

From your very own liberaly-biased ChatGPT:

Short answer: No, the Department of Justice (DOJ) has not formally “ceased” releasing Epstein files—but the main bulk of releases has already occurred, and further releases have largely stalled amid disputes, audits, and legal challenges.

Now, can I kindly encourage you, Captain Deflector, Wonder Woman, and Lily-Pad Hopper, to take this to the Epstein thread?

We are trying to discuss the White House Shooter in this thread, the guy you wish had succeeded.
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WTF? Blanche literally said there would be no more files released. And you defend him.

 
I saw an article where the judge apologized to Allen for the jail conditions. I guess he was being held under suicide watch and it was not deemed necessary. It's crazy to think that someone was trying to assassinate multiple high govt officials and then gets apologized to. What a bizarre world
 
ZonaBurgh said:
IDK, how do you convince a guy, Allen, to sacrifice his life for this? He should have been shot and killed immediately, but now faces years in prison.
Who does that?
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Who says he’s sacrificing his life? Maybe he’s in on it too. If it is a conspiracy, he’ll never spend a day in prison. They can parade him around in prison garb, take him in front of a corrupt judge that apologizes to him, convict him and then put him in The witness protection program. The nation thinks he’s in prison and no one is the wiser. My money says he’s dead within about 90 days, regardless.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
IDK, how do you convince a guy, Allen, to sacrifice his life for this? He should have been shot and killed immediately, but now faces years in prison.
Who does that?
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Also from what I understand, this hotel was booked out for this event years in advance. But our guy Allen just managed to get a room at said hotel on the one night President Trump actually decided to attend this stupid event. Then he manages to retrieve his weapons from a closet 5 feet from the metal detectors in front of a cop with a trained canine. A malinois I might add, that the cop never released. Then he runs past a bunch of secret service guys with their heads in their phones and manages to trip and fall at the door to the event. I don’t know how you could see it as anything other than a set up or a fake.
 
Sarge said:
Also from what I understand, this hotel was booked out for this event years in advance. But our guy Allen just managed to get a room at said hotel on the one night President Trump actually decided to attend this stupid event. Then he manages to retrieve his weapons from a closet 5 feet from the metal detectors in front of a cop with a trained canine. A malinois I might add, that the cop never released. Then he runs past a bunch of secret service guys with their heads in their phones and manages to trip and fall at the door to the event. I don’t know how you could see it as anything other than a set up or a fake.
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Because stupid people do things like this?
 
Djfan said:
Because stupid people do things like this?
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That’s absolutely true, but I don’t think that’s the case here. They pretty much let him through and the video shows that. Hell, you can see agents moving AWAY from him.
 
Sarge said:
That’s absolutely true, but I don’t think that’s the case here. They pretty much let him through and the video shows that. Hell, you can see agents moving AWAY from him.
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I think it is on both the part of the attacker, and the "security" team.
 
Troglodyte said:
WTF? Blanche literally said there would be no more files released. And you defend him.

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Two points:

1. Post any link to where I have ever even typed the word Blanche, let alone defended him
2. Posting literally anything from HuffPo exposes you further - not that we don't know who you are.

So Ze LillyPad Hopper, you've deflected from "Both sides!?" to "Erroneous redactions" to Todd Blanche.

Let me guess, you're next reply will be nothing about the White House Shooter (who you were rooting for), but instead you'll invoke some Maxwell or Bondi angle to change the topic of the debate for the 14th time?
 
I'm going to say some things that is probably going to upset some people here, people that I actually like and respect but I feel it needs saying so here goes.

first I truly believe that in Trumps first term he was the best president of my life time and I'm 65 years old now. That being said I feel he is so focused on revenge for the wrongs that were done to him along with some perceived to have been done to him, that he has lost site of the things he was accomplishing his first term and is hell bent on getting even. A sitting president that truly wants whats best for this country should be strong enough to rise above these things for the better good of the country. add to this the amount of wealth he and his family have obtained in the last year, well the square root of 49 is always going to be seven.

I am personally getting to a point that I don't know what to believe anymore when it come to this administration. Let me ask this, how did you feel when he was shot in PA? I for one was full of all kinds of emotions from anger to freaking pumped when he stood there yelling fight fight fight. Now lets step back and look at this from the outside looking in. it felt a little like 9/11. it brought in voters that normally would not have voted for him.

I am 65 years old and I got what we call Alabama ***** skin, everyone I know my age pretty much has it, hell if I bump into a cotton ball I bleed. My sister in-law is a hair dresser and she has said a million time the ear bleeds like an artery has opened up when it gets even nicked now take into consideration how much aspirin he said he takes, there should be blood everywhere. you look at the pictures and 90% of the blood is on his face not in his hair or on his neck no blood on his shirt and a single drop on his jacket. I have had hundreds of hours of firearm training and have shot hundreds of thousands of round and have seen numerous shootings one thing holds true blood spatters in the direction the bullet travels it physics.

It's also kind of ironic how this last attempt took place and shortly after he is using this to push funding for the ballroom which by the way he stated clearly was being paid for by donors that had already committed the money. his words were "no US tax dollars would be spent. No Doge money that was promised to the American people by Trump, the tariff money is headed to the rich not to the American citizens that actually paid it. I do however believe there will be some stimulus checks sent a month or so before the midterms which will be convenient.

I voted for the man three times at the cost of personal relationships of family members along with some pretty good friends because I believed in him to the point I would give no ground. Now using common sense I see the TDS goes both ways people that can't stand anything about him and people that worship every word he speaks.

From where I stand he seems to want to be worshiped and that is to far for me personally. I will bend the knee to one man and one man only and it aint Donald Trump. I took serious offense to him depicting himself as Jesus no matter how he tried to spin it and I am starting to believe that is how he thinks of himself.

I'll end with this, I live in one of the most conservative places in this country and the sentiment towards him and this administration is not what it use to be. In his first term he was not a politician, he was a man hell bent on making a real difference, today I look at him as the epitome of a politician, he learned how to play the game and is going to get all he can for him and his.

Also being out playing golf like you don't have a care in the world while our county is literally turning to **** is not a good look.
 
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