So??????????

[Troglodyte]

I mean it’s obvious that our Fan Base does not like the thought of one guy thinking he can dictate to the whole team. What a ****-tard approach that was absolutely panned last season and they have the audacity to let it happen again. They are once again going to wait so long and play this silly little game that he will seem like it’s the only option. We don’t like being laughed at. I can just imagine what’s being said behind closed doors by other teams.

Rodgers old *** should be at every team function there is. New HC….new OC….new OLine coach. New WR’s. He should not be missing any chance of practice whatsoever. What message does this send? Who’s running the ship? Why the **** isn’t our new HC laying down the law? I would have had instant respect for Big Mike if he came out swinging.

Last season we were probably all a little curious to see how he would play. And obviously he was better than the 5 before him. And also obviously he’s not the answer. Of course he will win us some games. And show flashes every once in a while of his old self,But just like Ben did he will look old ,slow,not want to be hit and inconsistent.

We would be in to year two of Darts development. We should be debating about what pieces to put around our new young QB. Instead the circus continues. Start Howard. We have to see what he has.

I hate to say this but it’s true. I’m watching a show about a cool old house being renovated. They are painstakingly trying to honor its past yet put their own stamp on it. Of course it’s a money pit.
The owner came on and talked about how really they are just stewards not owners and the best they can possibly do is to leave it better off than they found it for future stewards. And I thought Mann…..this is just like coaching philosophy should be. The team should be better off than when you got here. Millions will be charmed by little quick witted Tomlanism’s weekly. A few of us will think differently.

I like Howard but he hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL pre, post or regular season.

 

[gk1951]

Six different starting QB's in the last six seasons. The effing Browns don't have that many.
I still give it 70/30 that A-Aron is back.

Sad Ron isn't it? Where is Bubby Brister?

 

[SteelerFan448]

Never said it would impact their draft, it definitely shouldn't. It makes us look like a rinky dink organization. That's being talked about in the national media, we look like morons sitting around waiting on a 43 year old QB that can't move and is afraid of contact, that beat 1 playoff team.
If this guy is your starter this coming season, after watching him look like crap in the worse home playoff loss in team history, you should make his *** be here working with the new staff, new players, etc.
F'ing Joe Flacco was in Cleveland for voluntary stuff last year, so was Sam Darnold in Seattle.
This just tells me Rodgers doesn't care if this team gets better, he just wants his ego stroked and talked about in the media. Bringing Rodgers back does zero for us, so why are letting him string us along. We'd be killing the Browns if they were doing this.

Especially with a new coach having a QB participate in the entire offseason program is a good message to the rest of the team. Rodgers missing out does feel like he's playing because he can and the Steelers are desperate rather than trying to build toward a championship.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

Its the indecisiveness of the front office that scares me.

The FO is an utter joke. We are an embarrassment right now. Make it all go away. Please.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

He had a 94.8 passer rating with arguably the leagues worst receiver corps last year. Who says bringing him back does nothing for the Steelers?

Those 1-3 yard passes can up a completion percentage and don’t lead to many picks, or sacks. **** put 3 of those in a row he can go 3-3 for 8 yards and the ST coach is still yelling “punt ready”

94.8 is meaningless given the results

Bringing him back does something for the Steelers…but that something it does is not a positive. Another step in the wrong direction simply puts the team another step away from the desired destination.

 

[Coryea]

Especially with a new coach having a QB participate in the entire offseason program is a good message to the rest of the team. Rodgers missing out does feel like he's playing because he can and the Steelers are desperate rather than trying to build toward a championship.

And after how last season ended, and how we played vs playoff teams. This just tells me Rodgers doesn't give two sh!ts about the team and he doesn't give two sh!ts about wanting to get better, and quite frankly the same can be said about the organization if they won't give him a deadline.

 

[Troglodyte]

Those 1-3 yard passes can up a completion percentage and don’t lead to many picks, or sacks. **** put 3 of those in a row he can go 3-3 for 8 yards and the ST coach is still yelling “punt ready”

94.8 is meaningless given the results

Bringing him back does something for the Steelers…but that something it does is not a positive. Another step in the wrong direction simply puts the team another step away from the desired destination.

What do you suggest the Steelers do? Give the job to Howard before he’s thrown his first NFL pass outside of practice? Draft Simpson 1.21? They didn’t acquire a veteran in FA, what are their better options?

 

[Djfan]

What do you suggest the Steelers do? Give the job to Howard before he’s thrown his first NFL pass outside of practice? Draft Simpson 1.21? They didn’t acquire a veteran in FA, what are their better options?

In the short run, Rogers is a good idea. In the long run, not so much.

 

[Coryea]

What do you suggest the Steelers do? Give the job to Howard before he’s thrown his first NFL pass outside of practice? Draft Simpson 1.21? They didn’t acquire a veteran in FA, what are their better options?

Any option is better than Rodgers, we saw the ceiling last season, can't beat playoff teams, get embarrassed in the playoffs with a QB that has zero chance at being our future QB. He was brought in last year because Tomlin hoped he could win a playoff game, that didn't happen, no point sitting around waiting for his egotistical a55 to decide when he wants to show up.

 

[Steelmann]

I like Howard but he hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL pre, post or regular season.

I hear ya Trog. Guess what? There was a time Rodgers had never taken a snap,pre,post,or regular. And every other QB in excistance. I’m certainly not saying Howard is the answer. But how will we ever know? Now is just as good as a time as any.
Are we so afraid of growing pains….of having a losing season?

 

[mainesteel83]

Again, I'd love it if we let Rodgers loose. I'd prefer to take our lumps and start kicking tires for the future. This year we could kick those tires and see what we may have, and then go for a QB next year in a (supposedly) strong draft for QBs if none of these guys look like the future.

What would I do with no Rodgers? Trade for Spencer Rattler, who has played a little in the NFL and had some real good and real bad moments. To me, a late round pick for a young guy with a live arm and some experience might be better than a late round rookie, especially if McCarthy really is a young QB "developer". He reminds me as a poor man's Baker Mayfield. I would let Howard and Rattler fight it out to start, Rudolph be a backup to either, and probably give both the young guys an opportunity to start some games if one flames out. I'd even add a 7th round/UDFA QB to hold a clipboard or be a PS guy for a few years (Fagnano or Strand). Make it a competition where you get to look at these guys. That would inform you of the approach to the 2027 draft.

 

[Coryea]

I hear ya Trog. Guess what? There was a time Rodgers had never taken a snap,pre,post,or regular. And every other QB in excistance. I’m certainly not saying Howard is the answer. But how will we ever know? Now is just as good as a time as any.
Are we so afraid of growing pains….of having a losing season?

Exactly, and if we keep playing the "well next years draft is going to be QB loaded" game, well before last years draft, everyone said keep your picks and take your QB in 2026, it's should be QB loaded, well here we are and there are maybe 2 QB's going in round 1.

 

[gk1951]

Aaron Rodgers will be 43 in December. I give him great credit for rehabbing from his leg injury and playing last year BUT father time marches on.
Last year was a bit deceiving in our division with Lamar Jackson AND Joe Burrow being out so early in the season.
The Steelers won't be able to jump out to such a lead in the division.

As for Aaron Rodgers he would be in his second year with the team BUT with an all new coaching staff who knows what will happen.
Time for a new QB.

 

[diver]

Again, fans have unlimited careers as fans. We can endure a few losing seasons. Players don't. Every year they play is another year closer to the end. I know they are well compensated and all that, but telling guys like TJ or Cam to suck it up we are gonna lose for a while...man. And the fact is of any QB the Steelers have or may have, Rodgers gives them the best chance of winning something.

I say this as someone who would prefer they just let Rodgers sit wherever the helll he is and start the process. But I think it is important to acknowledge there is a lot to consider.

 

[Troglodyte]

Any option is better than Rodgers, we saw the ceiling last season, can't beat playoff teams, get embarrassed in the playoffs with a QB that has zero chance at being our future QB. He was brought in last year because Tomlin hoped he could win a playoff game, that didn't happen, no point sitting around waiting for his egotistical a55 to decide when he wants to show up.

Tomlin was the one who couldn’t beat playoff teams. Unless you’re taking about a picnic or Turkey Bowl game, NOBODY is thinking of Rodgers as a future QB of any team. And if you want to use the Texans game as an example of what’s wrong with the Steelers, we should be discussing the run defense that includes the aged Cam Heyward and last years first round pick.

 

[Coryea]

Tomlin was the one who couldn’t beat playoff teams. Unless you’re taking about a picnic or Turkey Bowl game, NOBODY is thinking of Rodgers as a future QB of any team. And if you want to use the Texans game as an example of what’s wrong with the Steelers, we should be discussing the run defense that includes the aged Cam Heyward and last years first round pick.

Tomlin couldn't beat playoff teams either, but he's gone, Rodgers QB rating vs playoff teams was in the 60's, so yes he was part of the problem vs playoff teams. Exactly, Rodgers isn't a future QB, that means there's zero reason to bring him back.

 

[Troglodyte]

Exactly, and if we keep playing the "well next years draft is going to be QB loaded" game, well before last years draft, everyone said keep your picks and take your QB in 2026, it's should be QB loaded, well here we are and there are maybe 2 QB's going in round 1.

I think you’re more frustrated with the problem than the Steelers handling of it. The problem is that a franchise QB is critical and there are nowhere near 32 of them in the world. Any QB believed to have a good chance at being a franchise QB is going in the Top 10 picks. After that you run the risk of drafting the next Kenny Pickett. You might as well hope to find a diamond in the rough in the middle to late rounds.

 

[Troglodyte]

Tomlin couldn't beat playoff teams either, but he's gone, Rodgers QB rating vs playoff teams was in the 60's, so yes he was part of the problem vs playoff teams. Exactly, Rodgers isn't a future QB, that means there's zero reason to bring him back.

Other than being competitive and possibly tutoring the future QB.

 

[Coryea]

I think you’re more frustrated with the problem than the Steelers handling of it. The problem is that a franchise QB is critical and there are nowhere near 32 of them in the world. Any QB believed to have a good chance at being a franchise QB is going in the Top 10 picks. After that you run the risk of drafting the next Kenny Pickett. You might as well hope to find a diamond in the rough in the middle to late rounds.

I'm on board with that as well, I just think having Rodgers for another season is just another season of not knowing. Draft a guy in the 3rd, whoever, I'm not against going with a guy that hasn't started before, at least we'd know what we have or don't have.

 

[Coryea]

Other than being competitive and possibly tutoring the future QB.

competitive if we play the average to bad teams. If he had any real intentions or if we had any real intentions of him tutoring any QB's, he'd be here, or we'd given him a timeline.

 

[Troglodyte]

I'm on board with that as well, I just think having Rodgers for another season is just another season of not knowing. Draft a guy in the 3rd, whoever, I'm not against going with a guy that hasn't started before, at least we'd know what we have or don't have.

Rudolph got some snaps last year. Howard may get some this year. If nothing else, he (and possibly a 2026 draft pick) should get the most snaps in preseason and give the Steelers a better idea of where they stand in terms of future QB.

 

[Steelmann]

Do you just not get it or what man? We’ve been losing for years man. Do you seriously not realize getting a couple games above.500 and then getting absolutely destroyed in a playoff game is considered a failure. I just don’t get your way of thinking.
And of course I get it’s better than having 5-12 seasons or whatever you want to fling at me. And furthermore. Guys like TJ and Cam are regular season warriors. They have done absolutely nothing whatsoever in playoff games. Nothing.
Except of course collect an astronomical paycheck.

Again, fans have unlimited careers as fans. We can endure a few losing seasons. Players don't. Every year they play is another year closer to the end. I know they are well compensated and all that, but telling guys like TJ or Cam to suck it up we are gonna lose for a while...man. And the fact is of any QB the Steelers have or may have, Rodgers gives them the best chance of winning something.

I say this as someone who would prefer they just let Rodgers sit wherever the helll he is and start the process. But I think it is important to acknowledge there is a lot to consider.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

Any option is better than Rodgers, we saw the ceiling last season, can't beat playoff teams, get embarrassed in the playoffs with a QB that has zero chance at being our future QB. He was brought in last year because Tomlin hoped he could win a playoff game, that didn't happen, no point sitting around waiting for his egotistical a55 to decide when he wants to show up.

And that's just it, wringing your hands over whether a guy that may get you 8-9 wins is senseless. What is it they say about doing the same thing over and over expecting different results? Pick up someone off the garbage heap to back up Howard and use a round 4+ pick for another camp arm for them to compete. Let Howard take his lumps because it really won't make a difference in the number of W's this team gets in 2026, but it will break the cycle of bringing in has beens at QB.

 

[diver]

Do you just not get it or what man? We’ve been losing for years man. Do you seriously not realize getting a couple games above.500 and then getting absolutely destroyed in a playoff game is considered a failure. I just don’t get your way of thinking.
And of course I get it’s better than having 5-12 seasons or whatever you want to fling at me. And furthermore. Guys like TJ and Cam are regular season warriors. They have done absolutely nothing whatsoever in playoff games. Nothing.
Except of course collect an astronomical paycheck.

I think I do, if you bothered to read the last sentence I wrote.

The other thing I will continue to say is losing doesn't guarantee later improvement, or the Bengals and Browns would have multiple championships.

 

[Coryea]

Do you just not get it or what man? We’ve been losing for years man. Do you seriously not realize getting a couple games above.500 and then getting absolutely destroyed in a playoff game is considered a failure. I just don’t get your way of thinking.
And of course I get it’s better than having 5-12 seasons or whatever you want to fling at me. And furthermore. Guys like TJ and Cam are regular season warriors. They have done absolutely nothing whatsoever in playoff games. Nothing.
Except of course collect an astronomical paycheck.

Those guys know what our ceiling is with Rodgers, they aren't winning anything with him at QB. They signed here, they could've moved on. All these guys are competitors, you don't get this far if you don't like to compete, but they're all money first. See Myles Garrett, makes a big long post on social media about him realizing he has no chance at winning in Cleveland and he's like to seek a trade to a team that gives him a better chance to win, then he resigns with Cleveland.