Hot is in relation to what you get used to, increase the temperature 30 degrees and it is hot period. When I moved to Texas my kids went outside to see if you really could fry an egg on the sidewalk.
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No Coach response yet??? This saddens me...
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Coachspeak? When did Jarvis become a coach?
I'm still confused on where you stand with Dupree. You seem to take every chance to bash the pick and then belittle him, but then you also include a sentence where you say he might turn out to be great.
I suspect Bud will play his way into the starting line up much the way Tuitt did last year. He has a tremendous amount of upside but running to the wrong place faster than someone else is not an asset. I expect he will be put in in situations where he can play to his strengths right now. Motes has the advantage of knowing the defense better this year and will likely start out with most of the snaps. I am hopeful that we can keep a couple of extra players at linebacker and tight end this year and cut loose some dead wood at other positions this year, like cam thomas, laundry jones would be two we could do with out. Cam Thomas need not be replaced and Laundry could be replaced with one of the wideout/ QB prospects.
It would be nice to keep an extra at linebacker and tight end as both Heath and James are getting up there and it looks like we have a couple of good prospects that could be taken from the practice squad if we try to put them there.
It would be nice to keep an extra at linebacker and tight end as both Heath and James are getting up there and it looks like we have a couple of good prospects that could be taken from the practice squad if we try to put them there.
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Tape, I was referring to past comments not in this thread.
“Versatility is something that should be highlighted,” said Coach Mike Tomlin. “He has done a lot for that defense over the course of the last four years. He has been an edge rusher, played in space. He is a versatile and smart athlete. You could characterize him as a football junkie, a football historian.”
Where do I stand on Dupree? I like Gregory a bit better on the field. I wish we picked him in round one or two.
The best news: I think Dupree going to be very good vs. the run. He is scheme versatile in the 3-4, 4-3, or nickel / dime thanks to his size. He won't get pushed around like say Jarvis Jones has been. Dupree has the speed to defend the edge, and the size and speed to play some coverage.
The okay news: As a pass rusher, I do not think he can do it on physical gifts alone in the NFL ( Speed rush ). I think he's technique needs some work. We need player who can get 10 sacks a season, and many qb pressures. I think Dupree is better than average as a 3-4 OLB pass rusher, but very good or great? I'd hedge toward no. He played four years of college ball, and his best sack total for a season is 7.5 sacks. NFL tackles are much better. Did we draft a Clark Haggans type of pass rusher....6-9 sacks a year? Or did we draft the next Lamarr Woodley as a pass rusher I lean more toward Haggans, who was a decent #2 OLB.
The not so good. I think he's a little slow to read and react in game situations. Not sure if this can be fixed. He doesn't have many pass rush moves, better coaching can help here.
In closing I think the pick is all right because of the need for a pass rusher, and some of the things Dupree will do well outside of the pass rush. If Dupree can be as good as a Focused Woodley or Porter as a pass rusher, its a great pick.
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I really take these OTA and training camp reviews of rookies with a grain of salt. Last year Dri Archer was lighting it up all training camp and how did that work out? The year before Jarvis Jones was unstoppable and how did that work out? I suspect Dupree and Golson will look like LT and Darrell Green in camp and then we will get smacked with a fist full of reality in September.
Randy Gregory is built like a WR and weighs about as much as one too. If he doesn't add some strength and weight, he's gonna get ragdolled in the ground game. Toothpick legs and arms smaller than Jarvis Jones. Speed will only get you so far in the NFL (as we've seen with Archer). Having an NFL ready body counts too.
That's not even discussing his love of Mary Jane, problems keeping on weight and mental issues. The dude is a few cookies short of a dozen; because he ate them when he had the munchies .... and then threw them up.
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^^^ Nails it.
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Ha ha. I thought the munchies help you add weight.... We shall see.
Like I said before when Beachum and Gilbert say Dupree is the real deal, I will put some stock into those words.
Now, how about some words from Dallas tackle Tyron Smith who rates as a top 5 tackle in the NFL. Tyron Smith of Dallas said this on Gregory
As for his weight now:
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So then these OTA's and training camp reviews mean little to you. Of course thats entirely your prerogative but I have to disagree. Sure you'll always have a Dri Archer that lights it up then falls flat when it matters but you also have guys like Leveon Bell, Kendrell Bell, Markice Pouncey,MIke Wallace, to name a few who had good rookie training camps and did pretty damn good when it counted that first season. Hell K.Bell even won defensive rookie of the year. I think you will see Dupree have a good training camp and I think he will push for playing time this season as well.I also think Golson and Grant will surprise a lot of folks and continue to get better as the season progresses.
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One thing the training camp shows is who is in shape and who is catching on to the playbook. One can not make the team from training camp but he sure can get cut if he is out of shape and can't be bothered to learn the playbook. The guys having good sessions now have a chance to continue that type of performance, the guys that don't might not make the team or the short list of replacements.
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Dude, I don't know about that. According to the caption, this is in May at mini-camp.
Dallas' Randy Gregory (94) is pictured during the Dallas Cowboys rookie minicamp held at Valley Ranch on Friday, May 8, 2015. (Louis DeLuca/The Dallas Morning News)
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Dude, I don't know about that. According to the caption, this is in May at mini-camp.
Dallas' Randy Gregory (94) is pictured during the Dallas Cowboys rookie minicamp held at Valley Ranch on Friday, May 8, 2015. (Louis DeLuca/The Dallas Morning News)
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The thing with Gregory, Coach, is that he has a tendency to gain weight during the offseason and then start losing it as soon as the pads are put on for real. So, it's great that he's "allegedly" at 243 lbs right now, but will he keep it on? Also, adding weight and supposedly looking good during OTAs does not address his weed smoking bipolarism.
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Dude, I don't know about that. According to the caption, this is in May at mini-camp.
Dallas' Randy Gregory (94) is pictured during the Dallas Cowboys rookie minicamp held at Valley Ranch on Friday, May 8, 2015. (Louis DeLuca/The Dallas Morning News)
Photoshopping a marathon runner?. Funny Stuff as long as its in a Cowboy uniform.
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I don't quite understand the hate for Gregory.
His college tape was great. Not good. Great. If he really does have mental health issues then I wish him the best in finding a way to handle them and succeed.
I could care less about him smoking pot. So does Le'Veon Bell. So do probably 10-20 other Steelers. So do 500 other NFL players. As far as I know he's not a criminal. He's not hitting his girlfriend. He's not carrying around guns like a wannabe gangster. He's not breeding or training dogs to be killers.
I'm really curious how his career turns out and how he handles his mental health issues. He could end up being a roll model for a lot of people if he handles this correctly and comes out the other side okay.
His college tape was great. Not good. Great. If he really does have mental health issues then I wish him the best in finding a way to handle them and succeed.
I could care less about him smoking pot. So does Le'Veon Bell. So do probably 10-20 other Steelers. So do 500 other NFL players. As far as I know he's not a criminal. He's not hitting his girlfriend. He's not carrying around guns like a wannabe gangster. He's not breeding or training dogs to be killers.
I'm really curious how his career turns out and how he handles his mental health issues. He could end up being a roll model for a lot of people if he handles this correctly and comes out the other side okay.
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I'd bet 90+% of us don't care, inherently, that he smokes pot. What we care about is that there may be some inability for him to NOT smoke pot, especially, if he has other mental health issues that make him have more dependency on chemical highs than a normal pot smoker may have. How long does he stay on your team with that risk? On top of some apparent mental health issues?
I'd also bet that none of us want him, necessarily, to fail outside the fact of the uniform he wears. I hope he overcomes his issues, too, but that is my hope for his personal journey. If he is wearing a Cowboys jersey, I hope he is on a losing team every year.
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Why do you have so much concerns for Gregory being in the drug program and not Bell? Bell could just as easily fail another test as Gregory could, right? And Bell's already been suspended, so who knows what the next penalty is.
It doesn't take much to get off the drug program list in the NFL. I think it's no more than a year clean.
And honestly, the hate for the Cowboys doesn't make a lot of sense anymore. Any rivalry we've had with them is 20+ years over. They are in the NFC. It's highly doubtful we see them any time soon in any meaningful playoff game (that would just be too many stars aligning). Both of our dynasties are long gone. We're both just good teams hoping to make a run.
My issue with Gregory is not that he smokes pot. It's that he couldn't stop smoking pot in order to pass the drug test at the combine. As far as his mental health issues, I'm not without compassion for him. However, there is a risk in taking a player with known mental health issues; guys quit, go on "walkabout", shoot their girlfriend and show up at your facility ... you'd have to determine if his issues were that serious and if you had the support program to monitor/help him. A lot of teams determined that the issues were and they didn't have an adequate system of support.
My biggest problem with Gregory is that he's little. Like Jarvis Jones little. Yeah, he's fast/quick. But he's small for an OLB and with his problems keeping weight on, I wonder if he'd have problems matching up with NFL LTs.
My biggest problem with Gregory is that he's little. Like Jarvis Jones little. Yeah, he's fast/quick. But he's small for an OLB and with his problems keeping weight on, I wonder if he'd have problems matching up with NFL LTs.
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Wow. No idea how you compare the two. Completely different situations for, well, obvious reasons.
1. Bell was already on our team when he was caught. To my knowledge, it was not a concern pre-draft, but I may have forgotten. Plus, you make some kind of irrational jump that I am not concerned about Bell's future. It isn't that I don't have concerns about Bell's future it is that he is already on the team and I don't know what you would do about it. Do you cut him/trade him? Ridiculous.
2. Just as ridiculous is that you use a high draft pick on someone you already know has a problem. Why would you invite more of that into your locker room?
You know there are reason to hate a team than just a rivalry, yes? I don't care if we never ever play them in another game. As my name suggests, I grew up in Arkansas. Want to guess what team we were forced to watch as the 'local' team? You got it, "America's Team". Constantly inundated with that ****, all you ever see in the stores for jerseys, etc. If it is OK, I will continue to hate them. They have, at least, dropped down below the *'s and Baltimore.
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Yep! My sentiments exactly. Here is a guy who knows he will be tested for drugs at the combine but still smokes prior to the testing and costs himself a first round selection and a lot of money. Thats a definate problem right there. He couldn't resist the temptation until at least after the combine drug testing. I would think one would want to be at their very best at this event. Thats a red flag that you cannot ignore if you're the GM and HC of a professional football team.
Yes his size. Hell, we all ***** about Uncle Jarvis looking like a punter so why is Gregory's body any different? He's got less bulk than Jones and as Steel Buck says, he apparently has trouble keeping it on. This won't be the Big 12 any longer for Randy. Now he's in the big boy league where 320 lb tackles who hit like freight trains is the norm. Look, I hope the kid gets his act togeher and figures it out and becomes a star. If not he will soon find out just exactly what the NFL really stands for if you're not ready and at your best. "Not For Long".