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The Epstein Problem

Confluence said:
maybe it's just the weekend, but it seems like this thread is a bit less fuucktarded for past couple days, which is nice.
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I've been posting a lot less the last two days.
 
Dan Bongino reporting on FB that all Epstein files have been release with only victims' names redacted.
I don't know what took so long, but....
1) It's like 3 million pages so it will take a while to go thru and redact.
2) Trump wanted to wait until closer to the midterms.
3) Predicably the Dems will say they needed time to scrub Trump's name out of everything.

 
Tim Steelersfan said:

Interesting read from the WSJ​

The Real Epstein ‘Ring’​

The disgraced financier’s ex-pals enjoyed his parties and vast network.​

The Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financier’s sex-trafficking and blackmail operation. They haven’t, for the excellent reason that there was no such operation.

Its nonexistence is, ironically, the main thing to emerge so far from the document dump. In the latest tranche, released late last month, is a memo from FBI investigators declaring that they found no evidence in Epstein’s residences and bank accounts of a trafficking ring or of “sex videos” supposedly used for blackmail. This finding has the force of cogency, contradicting as it does the earlier conspiratorial claims of Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel. Justice Department honchos, in other words, wanted to uncover a trafficking ring. Their investigators had to tell them the bad news.

Another revealing document—this one highlighted by the independent journalist Michael Tracey—is an 86-page memo from December 2019 by prosecutors with the Southern District of New York. The memo, intended to marshal evidence against Epstein’s associates, noted that Virginia Giuffre, the accuser primarily responsible for stories of a sex-slave and blackmail ring, was in fact a fabulist and totally unreliable as a courtroom witness.

That Epstein’s crimes were confined to himself and a few enablers, chiefly Ghislaine Maxwell, was intolerable to influencers and politicos determined to attribute all bad things to the dark workings of cabals. Tucker Carlson conjectured that Epstein worked with the Mossad to blackmail its enemies. A coterie of radicals in the House, including Thomas Massie (R., Ky.), Ro Khanna (D., Calif.) and Jamie Raskin (D., Md.), relentlessly speculate that Epstein serviced the rich and powerful in odious ways. These exhibitionists have yet to receive any criticism from the anti-“misinformation” crowd.

Congress, in an act of cravenness whose consequences will last decades, mandated the release of these documents—and for nakedly political reasons. Democrats were certain President Trump would show up as an Epstein “client,” and Republicans hoped to remind the public of Bill Clinton’s lechery.

Alas for Mr. Trump’s enemies, the latest tranche of documents casts doubt on the idea that he ever cavorted with Epstein and his harem. An FBI document memorializes a 2006 conversation in which Mr. Trump phoned the Palm Beach, Fla., police chief to say he knew about Epstein’s and Ms. Maxwell’s behavior and thought it vile. He was once around Epstein when teenage girls showed up, he recalled to the police chief, and he “got the hell out of there.”

The press purports to think the salient fact here is that Mr. Trump in 2019 claimed he knew nothing about Epstein’s creepy actions. But the salient point is that Mr. Trump in 2006 volunteered his view to the cops that Epstein’s behavior revolted him and is thus unlikely to have participated in it.

Mr. Clinton, though not unscathed by the files, doesn’t seem to have been a “client” whom Epstein could blackmail. He took four overseas trips on Epstein’s jet in 2002 and 2003, each credibly said to be about philanthropic work (the stops were all in Africa—not the Virgin Islands). That’s before Epstein’s 2006 indictment in Palm Beach for soliciting a minor. Among the released files are several undated photos, by appearances from the early 2000s, of Mr. Clinton with Epstein and a variety of celebrities and unidentified women, the latter’s faces redacted.

There was, in the end, no sex-slave ring, no blackmail operation, no cameras recording dalliances for later use, no client list. Just a deeply sick and rich predator with a few enablers.

Yet there was a ring of sorts—a circle of well-connected, wealthy and politically liberal men who looked past Epstein’s taste in girls and remained on friendly terms with this charming, lavishly generous and intellectually conversant epicure. Revilers of Epstein’s pals draw a fine distinction between those who continued to associate with him after the ’08 conviction and those who didn’t. I’m not convinced that’s all-important.

They all knew—just as everybody in Hollywood knew what Harvey Weinstein was up to, claims of ignorance notwithstanding. Some of Epstein’s former pals, now protesting that their dealings with him were “limited”—word of the year—may have accepted carnal favors, though perhaps not criminal ones. Many only enjoyed the parties, business opportunities and social connections.

For America’s liberal VIPs in media, tech and politics, the moment demands self-reflection. The big-timers humiliated by association with Epstein—like the guys disgraced by MeToo allegations—almost all held conventional liberal opinions and gave lavishly to liberal causes and Democratic candidates. Don’t pretend you haven’t noticed.

Today’s liberals spend a lot of energy discoursing on the American right’s pathologies, often justly. But it ought to bother them that 20 years ago the man they loathe most took a look at Jeffrey Epstein’s conduct and got the hell out of there.
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If this is indeed true, Americans have to be relieved. Well, except maybe the Democratic Party.

I can say personally, if this is the case, I’m happy. The thought that our nation being governed by a cabal of pedophiles was truly revolting. They’re asssholes for myriad reasons but this at least appears to not be one of them. Now people can go back to just hating them for the regular stuff they do.
 
uh, aren't there about a couple million files still not released?
 
Troglodyte said:
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"This is the Epstein Administration" :ROFLMAO: :LOL:

The desperation of you and your ilk. If it weren't so dangerous, it would be comical.

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This will end up just like Russia, Russia, Russia and every other hook y'all have hung your hat on. Like the #MeToo movement, when exposed, it's mostly Dems who've been implicated. But you still...keep...hanging...on.

Tim Steelersfan

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Interesting read from the WSJ​

The Real Epstein ‘Ring’​

The disgraced financier’s ex-pals enjoyed his parties and vast network.​

The Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financier’s sex-trafficking and blackmail operation. They haven’t, for the excellent reason that there was no such operation.

Its nonexistence is, ironically, the main thing to emerge so far from the document dump. In the latest tranche, released late last month, is a memo from FBI investigators declaring that they found no evidence in Epstein’s residences and...
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Tim Steelersfan said:
"This is the Epstein Administration" :ROFLMAO: :LOL:

The desperation of you and your ilk. If it weren't so dangerous, it would be comical.

giphy.gif


This will end up just like Russia, Russia, Russia and every other hook y'all have hung your hat on. Like the #MeToo movement, when exposed, it's mostly Dems who've been implicated. But you still...keep...hanging...on.

Tim Steelersfan

Post in thread 'The Epstein Problem'

Interesting read from the WSJ​

The Real Epstein ‘Ring’​

The disgraced financier’s ex-pals enjoyed his parties and vast network.​

The Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financier’s sex-trafficking and blackmail operation. They haven’t, for the excellent reason that there was no such operation.

Its nonexistence is, ironically, the main thing to emerge so far from the document dump. In the latest tranche, released late last month, is a memo from FBI investigators declaring that they found no evidence in Epstein’s residences and...
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The most compelling evidence that there was no actual pedo sex trafficking operation….

Joe Biden was not among the names released.

Ain’t no way he could have missed out on that shitt.
 
Hypocycloids said:
The most compelling evidence that there was no actual pedo sex trafficking operation….

Joe Biden was not among the names released.

Ain’t no way he could have missed out on that shitt.
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Joe already had his daughter at home to take showers with.
On a related note, it was mentioned that there are no pro athletes on the list. Well yeah, because they don't need help getting women.
I used to count a now-retired but well-known Penguins player in my circle of friends. When we'd be out, the way women would literally throw themselves at him was freaking amazing to an average-looking average-income guy like me. Slipping him business cards, phone numbers on napkins. All. The. Time.
Is there any woman on earth who wants to see Bill Gates naked if he wasn't a billionaire? Me thinks not.
 
Badcat said:
Please expound, I'm being genuine with you.
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Tim Steelersfan said:
"This is the Epstein Administration" :ROFLMAO: :LOL:

The desperation of you and your ilk. If it weren't so dangerous, it would be comical.

giphy.gif


This will end up just like Russia, Russia, Russia and every other hook y'all have hung your hat on. Like the #MeToo movement, when exposed, it's mostly Dems who've been implicated. But you still...keep...hanging...on.

Tim Steelersfan

Post in thread 'The Epstein Problem'

Interesting read from the WSJ​

The Real Epstein ‘Ring’​

The disgraced financier’s ex-pals enjoyed his parties and vast network.​

The Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financier’s sex-trafficking and blackmail operation. They haven’t, for the excellent reason that there was no such operation.

Its nonexistence is, ironically, the main thing to emerge so far from the document dump. In the latest tranche, released late last month, is a memo from FBI investigators declaring that they found no evidence in Epstein’s residences and...
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And you don’t find this troubling. You’re in a cult.

 


if you blatantly ignore the ramifications of this, you're in a cult.
 
Clinton’s name appears 1,193 times. No evidence of wrongdoing apparently.

So does that mean if the DOJ shields Trump they must shield Clinton?

Or does that mean that they are both being truthful about their involvement?
 
I'm hearing that Elvis and Janice Joplin are on the list.

Funny
 
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
 
madinsomniac said:
Look, I hate to be the bearer of obvious news, but Epstein's FBI files were purged several administrations ago.
Epstein wasnt some recent development.
In the 90's, his involvement with the Clintons was flagged by all sorts of groups. Before he was a known Pedo, he was a financer tied to but never accused of participating in one of the biggest financial scandals at that time, and getting chummy with a president with his own whitewater scandal hanging over his head.

Yeah, he got caught with the Sex ring crap during the Bush administration FBI didnt nab him... local police did... the subsequent FBI investigation and federal prosecution was done under both the Bush and Obama Administration... THE FBI COLLECTED THOSE FILES INA MANNER THAT LET THEM GIVE HIM A SWEETHEART DEAL... go read about how much bullshit that original plea deal was... and again, it spanned a republican and democratic administration....

I dont ******* want to hear Dems even peep about this ****, because when we were bitching about him back then they were pooh poohing it away. Dems have pervasively ignored human trafficking claims through the past few decades... Pizzagate was an imbecilic Republican reddit concoction, but the equally stupid pushback from libs claiming Pedo rigs among the elite were conspiracy fantasies was so common it is almost humorous watching the same people flip in a heartbeat because of political agendas.

The reason why both sides have clamored to release stuff about Epstein for political gains, but both sheltered him in the past and neither were willing to do anything until the public outcry was deafening int because of politicians involvement... they eat their own all the time... its if you look too close you will dig up Financial guys involvement, and not just with kid diddling... all sorts of unsavory fraud and scams that tie to the bankers... thats what they are protecting... the money...
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Awful lot of redaction, non-release and cover-up for them being purged long ago.
 
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