The Official Thread Dedicated to "Trump Winning"

[Tibs]

I'll say this. With every day that passes, it is becoming clear to me that there are two versions of America that I don't want to live in. Sucks because I'm old with limited options. It's sad that we have backed ourselves into such a corner that all we have to choose from is Republicans and Democrats. We really need a viable third party.

I don't think it boils down to political parties at all. It boils down to common decency, a shared idea of American foundational tenets of democracy, the Rule of Law, the Constitution, the separation of powers. The notion that we can agree to disagree. That the core structure of the Republic is sacred, the pillars of governance unflappable... that every four years we'll elect a government that may lean a little left, or a little right, but that the vision of America, and what it stands for, is set in stone. That the Constitution provides everyone their right to Free Speech, their Right of Assembly.

For instance, you can be for strong border control and immigration policy, and at the same time stand and protest against ICE stepping over the line, brutalizing local communities, attacking Americans protesting. You can be for tariffs, and a strong, America-first economic policy, without attacking, insulting, and demeaning our allies. You can exert pressure and achieve your goals within NATO, while maintaining good relations with partner countries. You can champion American ideals, without dragging down other nations.

You can demand and hold elected officials accountable from the opposing party, then double-down and do the same with the party you support.

It seems we've lost our way, amidst all the duplicity and mudslinging. Us against them. The fact anyone who is opposed to Trump is called a "communist" and "anti-American" is exhibit A of this phenomena. In the end, we are all Americans, blacks, whites, Hispanic, Asian. We're all Americans, even those with funny names, like mine, and those from 1st and 2nd generation immigrant families, who have become citizens.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That's the underlying concept of America, as expressed by our founders, who traveled here from a foreign land, seeking freedom and prosperity. I'm not willing to cede the Republic to those wishing to tear it down by scapegoating others. So many have died for this flag, for this nation, fighting for the very principles that we take for granted. The ability to speak up, criticize the government, assemble at will, yes, carry arms, and worship whatever God or religion you choose, or none at all. This is what makes America great. It doesn't need to be made great again.. it's great as it is. It is we, everyday people and citizens, that need to up our game, and stop succumbing to the myth and fantasy that everything will be solved for us, top-down, from those we elect to office.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Your lack of self-awareness is impressive. You’re delusional, but what’s new?

You guys are doing great. Hope you enjoyed the Kid Rock lip-synced pity party.

Half-Time Show Attendance:
Bad Bunny: 139M
Kid Rock: 4M *6.1M updated

America is gonna be alright, despite Trump’s best efforts to drag this nation through mud.

Pure logic tells you most people didn't bother changing the channel, but it doesn't mean they all watched. Those numbers are pretty damn good considering. What you think is an insult isn't. Particularly if you understand ratings. Oh, and the mudslinging started on your side and never stopped. Trump just throws it right back unlike most lame *** Republicans who roll over and show their bellies. It simply pisses you and the rest off when you get to take your own medicine.

 

[Tibs]

Pure logic tells you most people didn't bother changing the channel, but it doesn't mean they all watched. Those numbers are pretty damn good considering. What you think is an insult isn't. Particularly if you understand ratings. Oh, and the mudslinging started on your side and never stopped. Trump just throws it right back unlike most lame *** Republicans who roll over and show their bellies. It simply pisses you and the rest off when you get to take your own medicine.

Glad you enjoyed the Kid Rock show. I loved the Super Bowl halftime show. It was energetic, lively, and fun. It was a great production and a spectacle. I'm glad the Seahawks beat the crap out of the Pats. The sun shall rise again in the morning. The dust will settle. It does seem strange to me what political theater even the Super Bowl halftime show has become. Perhaps someday, we can just sit back and enjoy it, or hate it, on its own merit.

 

[Superman]

Glad to know both you and I have exactly the same voting rights. I make sure to vote in both state and federal elections. Haven't missed one since I turned 18. Hopefully, you'll make better life choices from hereon, and not vote for a totalitarian, fascist regime, next time around.

And happy to report Bad Bunny is just as much an American as you are.



Embrace the beauty and genius of America. It's a kaleidoscope of languages and cultures. Instead of hate, let there be love, and humanity, in your heart.

Btw, strange that MAGAs have their panties in a bunch with a performer from Puerto Rico headlining, which is an unincorporated U.S. territory, whose president is Donald Trump.

Where was your outrage with these performers?

Phil Collins, United Kingdom — 2000 Super Bowl XXXIV
Enrique Iglesias, Spain — 2000 Super Bowl XXXIV
U2, Ireland — 2002 Super Bowl XXXVI
Shania Twain, Canada — 2003 Super Bowl XXXVII
Sting, U.K. — 2003 Super Bowl XXXVII
Celine Dion, Canada — 2003 Super Bowl XXXVII
Paul McCartney, U.K. — 2005 Super Bowl XXXIX
The Rolling Stones, U.K. — 2006 Super Bowl XL
The Who, U.K. — 2010 Super Bowl XLIV
Coldplay, U.K. — 2016 Super Bowl 50
Shakira, Colombia — 2020 Super Bowl LIV
The Weeknd, Canada — 2021 Super Bowl LV
Rihanna, Barbados — 2023 Super Bowl LVII

my dislike of Bad Bunny performing had nothing to do with his birthplace, you pompous dipshit.

I never said the douchebag was not an American citizen. I said:

Puerto Rico is NOT a US State and thus does not have full voting rights in American elections

Bad Bunny's music isnt my cup of tea, but that's why there's different genres of music to choose from. my dislike of Bad Bunny for the halftime show had to do with his injection of politics into his performance.

for instance - real example, barista b1tch - i had a US Marshal at my house for the game. This same guy led an operation to save 60+ children from human trafficking. a bona fide real American hero.

yet the prancing ****** you cheer is protesting my friend.

talk about being on the wrong side of history. and politics. and essentially everything else.

just get the coffee and stfu, you traitorous ****.

oh, before you go, THIS is a Super Bowl halftime show:

 

[Superman]

Sorry you hate your country so much. That's gotta suck.

at least Indy is here, fighting for his country and didnt turn cuck and flee to a foreign country with even harsher laws and policies than his own. i mean, what real American does something that pansy-like, soy boi?

 

[Tibs]

pansy-like, soy boi?

you pompous dipshit.

barista b1tch

just get the coffee and stfu, you traitorous ****.

Good morning to you, too, Superman.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

It appears that I made the right decision last evening to sit down and read The Wild Blue by Stephen Ambrose, keeping the TV dark.

 

[Steelersreign]

It appears that I made the right decision last evening to sit down and read The Wild Blue by Stephen Ambrose, keeping the TV dark.

I didn’t watch one second of the Super Bowl
Hung out with my grandson, that was the Super Bowl

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Glad you enjoyed the Kid Rock show. I loved the Super Bowl halftime show. It was energetic, lively, and fun. It was a great production and a spectacle. I'm glad the Seahawks beat the crap out of the Pats. The sun shall rise again in the morning. The dust will settle. It does seem strange to me what political theater even the Super Bowl halftime show has become. Perhaps someday, we can just sit back and enjoy it, or hate it, on its own merit.

I didn’t watch Kid Rock. I watched Bad Bunny. I won’t ***** about something I didn’t actually watch. I didn’t like it from a pure musical standpoint. I am also not a huge Country fan so I didn’t feel the need to switch. Most of what I listen to was written between the early 60’s and the mid 90’s. I prefer the 60’s protest music to the crap from today. The classic liberals made far better music.

 

[Confluence]

For those that missed the Bad Bunny show, a little perspective:

Have you ever been to an all-inclusive resort in a place like Mexico/Cuba/Dominican Republic? You know, where they have the pool guards and towel folks and the kids camp young workers also provide the nightly entertainment so the gringos can experience a live action cultural interaction.

Well, the Bad Bunny show was like Wednesday night at Paradise del Sol 4.5 star almost new hotel with the "Local Culture" night with colors, people, bands, some dancing, lots of props, some cameos featuring the good looking ones, big Latino musica sounds, etc.

The toddlers love the festivity, colors and noise, the grade school kids are enraptured by their first live show, the Moms can have a couple drinks because the kids are busy, and the teens are with dad at the all inclusive bar on the other side of the property because Mom is occupied.

 

[Superman]

For those that missed the Bad Bunny show, a little perspective:

Have you ever been to an all-inclusive resort in a place like Mexico/Cuba/Dominican Republic? You know, where they have the pool guards and towel folks and the kids camp young workers also provide the nightly entertainment so the gringos can experience a live action cultural interaction.

Well, the Bad Bunny show was like Wednesday night at Paradise del Sol 4.5 star almost new hotel with the "Local Culture" night with colors, people, bands, some dancing, lots of props, some cameos featuring the good looking ones, big Latino musica sounds, etc.

The toddlers love the festivity, colors and noise, the grade school kids are enraptured by their first live show, the Moms can have a couple drinks because the kids are busy, and the teens are with dad at the all inclusive bar on the other side of the property because Mom is occupied.

and the dudes grinding on each other was an extra added bonus of Americana flavor that @Tibs devoured

 

[Djfan]

I don't think it boils down to political parties at all. It boils down to common decency, a shared idea of American foundational tenets of democracy, the Rule of Law, the Constitution, the separation of powers. The notion that we can agree to disagree. That the core structure of the Republic is sacred, the pillars of governance unflappable... that every four years we'll elect a government that may lean a little left, or a little right, but that the vision of America, and what it stands for, is set in stone. That the Constitution provides everyone their right to Free Speech, their Right of Assembly.

For instance, you can be for strong border control and immigration policy, and at the same time stand and protest against ICE stepping over the line, brutalizing local communities, attacking Americans protesting. You can be for tariffs, and a strong, America-first economic policy, without attacking, insulting, and demeaning our allies. You can exert pressure and achieve your goals within NATO, while maintaining good relations with partner countries. You can champion American ideals, without dragging down other nations.

You can demand and hold elected officials accountable from the opposing party, then double-down and do the same with the party you support.

It seems we've lost our way, amidst all the duplicity and mudslinging. Us against them. The fact anyone who is opposed to Trump is called a "communist" and "anti-American" is exhibit A of this phenomena. In the end, we are all Americans, blacks, whites, Hispanic, Asian. We're all Americans, even those with funny names, like mine, and those from 1st and 2nd generation immigrant families, who have become citizens.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That's the underlying concept of America, as expressed by our founders, who traveled here from a foreign land, seeking freedom and prosperity. I'm not willing to cede the Republic to those wishing to tear it down by scapegoating others. So many have died for this flag, for this nation, fighting for the very principles that we take for granted. The ability to speak up, criticize the government, assemble at will, yes, carry arms, and worship whatever God or religion you choose, or none at all. This is what makes America great. It doesn't need to be made great again.. it's great as it is. It is we, everyday people and citizens, that need to up our game, and stop succumbing to the myth and fantasy that everything will be solved for us, top-down, from those we elect to office.

I can get on board with a lot of this. You seem to have left out the vitriol from the left that has been assaulting us on the right, for a very long time. For too long, those of us on the right lost the public forum on this due to pressure, labeling, etc., but now that has changed. So, we are called homophobic, racist, etc. It's lame. The labels are used to group accuse us of bad things that are not real. I mean, if everyone is a racist, no one is. But, the left decided that old white people are the deciders of what is racist, excluding any democrat from guilt, yet the dems are the party of racism all throughout history. But, we have to just be quiet and get kicked by the left and it's media. I will not. I will do my best to make it loud as a gentleman, Christian, kind person, but I will be loud. I reject the idea that wanting closed borders is racist. There are other examples of this, but will not bother with a list for this for now.

I have been open about my strong desire for Trump to grow up in his memes and such, but if that is what the critics are mad at, they too need to grow up. We have put up with much more nonsense from the left than that.

 

[Sarge]

I don't think it boils down to political parties at all. It boils down to common decency, a shared idea of American foundational tenets of democracy, the Rule of Law, the Constitution, the separation of powers. The notion that we can agree to disagree. That the core structure of the Republic is sacred, the pillars of governance unflappable... that every four years we'll elect a government that may lean a little left, or a little right, but that the vision of America, and what it stands for, is set in stone. That the Constitution provides everyone their right to Free Speech, their Right of Assembly.

It's interesting you mention the rule of law. Seems no one in government has to really follow the law. Like the way states like New York, California, Virginia, Minnesota and others just feel like they don't have to follow federal immigration law. In fact, they feel as though they can take federal tax dollars and use them to undermine the law.

Agree to disagree? LOL. If you disagree these days, you are a communist, anti-American, fascist, racist, pedophile lover. Heck, it could lead to your death. Trust me, go to any rally in America and say something that is in conflict with what that rally is preaching.

For instance, you can be for strong border control and immigration policy, and at the same time stand and protest against ICE stepping over the line, brutalizing local communities, attacking Americans protesting. You can be for tariffs, and a strong, America-first economic policy, without attacking, insulting, and demeaning our allies. You can exert pressure and achieve your goals within NATO, while maintaining good relations with partner countries. You can champion American ideals, without dragging down other nations.

See we are going to disagree here. IF ICE stepped over the line, it is because protestors stepped over the line. You act like ICE just rolled into neighborhoods and started night sticking people just because. If an apprehension or arrest is underway, as a protestor, it is against the law for you to interfere. You cannot inject yourself into that situation. And when you are making physical contact with agents AFTER you have been told multiple times to stay back, you get what you get. You asked for it. I don't believe either of those people should have been shot, but if you don't hit an agent with your car after blocking them from driving down the street, or you don't damage an agency vehicle and then spit on agents while carrying a gun the likelihood of being shot goes WAY down. The people on those streets have to bear at least some responsibility for the stuff that happens when they interfere. The right to assemble does not come with the freedom to threaten and attempt to physically harm agents because you disagree with what they are doing. And the right to assemble does not come with a free pass to act any way you want and expect little or no repercussions.

As far as our NATO dependents allies, the whole contention with them is that they run welfare states while failing to meet their obligations to NATO. I mean why not, right? Just allow the US to spend themselves into oblivion. The US pretty much pays for their defense, and has sacrificed treasure and lives to the point that there wouldn't even be a Europe anymore if not for us. And having been to Europe recently, their armies are in tatters for the most part. France, Germany, to a lesser extent England. All of the Eastern European Armies are laughably weak. Why? Because we fed the animals. And when you feed they animals the become dependent. NATO needed to be scolded. Maybe not disparaged, but definitely scolded.

And don't get me started on the tariffs. Disaster from the word go. Targeted tariffs were the way to go, not blanket tariffs.

You can demand and hold elected officials accountable from the opposing party, then double-down and do the same with the party you support.

No elected officials get held accountable, no matter what we demand. Hearings that end in nothing is not being held to account. Wake me when someone that breaks the law is actually jailed or even fined, rather than apologizing half-heartedly and resigning.

It seems we've lost our way, amidst all the duplicity and mudslinging. Us against them. The fact anyone who is opposed to Trump is called a "communist" and "anti-American" is exhibit A of this phenomena. In the end, we are all Americans, blacks, whites, Hispanic, Asian. We're all Americans, even those with funny names, like mine, and those from 1st and 2nd generation immigrant families, who have become citizens.

Anybody who supports Trump is a fascist, Nazi, racist, nationalist, and on and on. Surprised you didn't mention that. Just an oversight on your part, I'm sure. I don't need explained to me what an American is. I served with people of every race, nationality, creed, whatever. Some of the best men and women I know.

The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That's the underlying concept of America, as expressed by our founders, who traveled here from a foreign land, seeking freedom and prosperity. I'm not willing to cede the Republic to those wishing to tear it down by scapegoating others. So many have died for this flag, for this nation, fighting for the very principles that we take for granted. The ability to speak up, criticize the government, assemble at will, yes, carry arms, and worship whatever God or religion you choose, or none at all. This is what makes America great. It doesn't need to be made great again.. it's great as it is. It is we, everyday people and citizens, that need to up our game, and stop succumbing to the myth and fantasy that everything will be solved for us, top-down, from those we elect to office.

Tibs, I fought for this country. I wasn't fighting for any principles. I was fighting because I took an oath, some politicians made me go to a 3rd world shiithole and some ******** were trying to kill me. Nobody was in Afghanistan or Iraq talking about principles. We fought for the person next to us in the hope we'd all get to go home alive in one piece. Regardless, I love this nation and that flag. I don't like what the politicians are doing to this nation. I don't like that republicans don't do anything but collect paychecks they didn't earn. I wish Trump would talk less and act more. I wish democrats would quit trying to skew definitions of words that confuse kids and convince them they are something they aren't. I wish democrats weren't suddenly falling in love with socialism. I wish our schools turned out educated young people prepared for the real world instead of brain dead activists. I could go on and on, but my lunch break is over and I gotta go help soldiers maintain their ability to close with, engage and destroy the enemy.

 

[DBS1970]

I'll say this. With every day that passes, it is becoming clear to me that there are two versions of America that I don't want to live in. Sucks because I'm old with limited options. It's sad that we have backed ourselves into such a corner that all we have to choose from is Republicans and Democrats. We really need a viable third party.

What exactly did you think the Republicans beginning to fight back would look like? Even now with Trump, who is an absolute political brawler too many of the GOPe seek to counter democrat attacks with strong strongly worded letters and pearl clutching. You cannot “just get along with” with communist who would send you to a new log or put you up against the wall in front of a firing squad. You need to come to grips with the fact that the people on the right are simply American patriots who are just barely beginning to counterpunch against the Democrats, who have gone full communist.

 

[Confluence]

and the dudes grinding on each other was an extra added bonus of Americana flavor that @Tibs devoured

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yeah, missed that while getting a beer. They do this all the time, but no men notice because they are getting a drink or 3.

 

[Sarge]

and the dudes grinding on each other was an extra added bonus of Americana flavor that @Tibs devoured

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Does this really bother anybody? I mean, really? I didn't watch the halftime show because I was in bed, but I've seen this all over social media today, followed mostly by outrage. I think it's ridiculous yet hilarious. The stuff that riles people up these days.

 

[Superman]

Does this really bother anybody? I mean, really? I didn't watch the halftime show because I was in bed, but I've seen this all over social media today, followed mostly by outrage. I think it's ridiculous yet hilarious. The stuff that riles people up these days.

it doesnt rile me up. i just thought it was inappropriate.
like i said, the music isnt my favorite, but that's not true for everyone. i just believe the NFL should - at the least - try to appeal to and show loyalty to those who have kept it the best sport entertainment for the past few decades.

 

[steel dino]

Glad you enjoyed the Kid Rock show. I loved the Super Bowl halftime show. It was energetic, lively, and fun. It was a great production and a spectacle. I'm glad the Seahawks beat the crap out of the Pats. The sun shall rise again in the morning. The dust will settle. It does seem strange to me what political theater even the Super Bowl halftime show has become. Perhaps someday, we can just sit back and enjoy it, or hate it, on its own merit.

I think that can happen someday Tibs..

It will happen when performers and/or celebrities remove their political agenda, or opinions out of their performances, late night talk shows, award shows, podcast,and other media related statements.

We won’t be able to judge entertainers on their merits until they start focusing on entertaining again.