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Coryea said:
That idiot Chris Mueller says AB should go into the HOF over Ben. How does this moron get paid for that crap?
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WTF? How does anyone take that guy serious?? I know AB will be up for the HOF, but can he wear a yellow jacket in prison? hmmmm
 
Coryea said:
That idiot Chris Mueller says AB should go into the HOF over Ben. How does this moron get paid for that crap?
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He just accomplished exactly what he wanted by you posting about his idiocy. Best to ignore these fools.
 
I have no doubt AB's stats are good enough for the HOF. Over Big Ben, not a chance. AB lost his opportunity for Canton when he went over the Niagara Falls without a barrel. I wonder if Big Ben's early off-field stuff will hurt his first ballot nomination. I still think AB was never right after the VB hit in Cincy.
 
AB someday will be inducted into the HOF but not on the first ballot. Later down the road but he does need to get straightened out first though if that’s even possible.
Ben SHOULD be a first ballot HOF inductee no doubt but idk man. I’m concerned about some of these voters holding his early off field behavior against him.
I know, I know, he was never charged! I get it but some voters may still harbor negative thoughts on Ben and that concerns me.
I’m sure you’ve noticed over the years how Ben never, ever appears on TV endorsing any products. It’s as though he’s been blackballed! You see all these other current and former players on TV but never, ever see Ben.
We will see but I don’t trust this HOF committee!
 
troymania said:
I have no doubt AB's stats are good enough for the HOF. Over Big Ben, not a chance. AB lost his opportunity for Canton when he went over the Niagara Falls without a barrel. I wonder if Big Ben's early off-field stuff will hurt his first ballot nomination. I still think AB was never right after the VB hit in Cincy.
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Rayray Lewis says hi……………



Salute the nation
 
Black & Gold Bleeder said:
Hes the NFL version of Pete Rose
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I’d wish they were saying that about t*mmyb*y in 25 years for him not getting into the HOF for cheating….

Just an out-loud thought.




Salute the nation
 
I don't think Ben will get in first ballot because petty NE people won't vote for him as some sort of revenge for Cheater Belichick being passed over.
 
It sure was cool back in the day when accurate reporting was a thing.

Now over half the content out there is click bait garbage or AI writing flat out fake pieces of news to shock unsuspecting rubes.

It is really making the industry 💩
 
Coryea said:
That idiot Chris Mueller says AB should go into the HOF over Ben. How does this moron get paid for that crap?
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If he had to pick one for first ballot over the other, it's not an unreasonable take.
 
I know both should be HOFers in their first year of eligibility. Ben has multiple rings so he will always be 1 in the pecking order for me.
 
Reason why Ben cant tecnically be screwed while snubbing BB or AB is perfectly fine...

The bylaws for the NFL HOF disallow consideration of off field issues not pertaining to the team...

So if a player sets every record in the book and wins 10 championships, and is a model locker room guy the whole time, but then goes on a murder rampage in the offseason, the voters would be instructed not to favtor in the off field murders in the process

However, as its been explained, team related off field type issues can be considered ... a famous example is shunning TO as long as they did... his numbers were superb and his impact on his era evident... but he was a locker room nightmare that cost his team in disruptions and selfish play..

So AB and his locker room Shenanigans are fair game... Coach Cheaty mcCheaterpants' in game cheating counts... but Ben's off field situations are completely off the table by rule
 
WindyCitySteel said:
Exactly that -- AB was a first team All Pro 4 times, 2nd team once. Ben was never either. It shouldn't be controversial
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Ben retired top 10 (top 5 in some) in all major statistical categories, with 2 Super Bowls. He played QB the same time 3 other all time greats were in their prime (Brady, Manning, Rodgers) so him not making all pros isn't a huge shocker, AB wasn't playing in the same era as 3 of the greatest WR's in NFL history.

AB without Ben only averaged something like 40 rec yards per game.
 
madinsomniac said:
Reason why Ben cant tecnically be screwed while snubbing BB or AB is perfectly fine...

The bylaws for the NFL HOF disallow consideration of off field issues not pertaining to the team...

So if a player sets every record in the book and wins 10 championships, and is a model locker room guy the whole time, but then goes on a murder rampage in the offseason, the voters would be instructed not to favtor in the off field murders in the process

However, as its been explained, team related off field type issues can be considered ... a famous example is shunning TO as long as they did... his numbers were superb and his impact on his era evident... but he was a locker room nightmare that cost his team in disruptions and selfish play..

So AB and his locker room Shenanigans are fair game... Coach Cheaty mcCheaterpants' in game cheating counts... but Ben's off field situations are completely off the table by rule
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Which is why Ray Lewis who was charged and then plead guilty to charges went right in, funny his off the field situation never gets brought up by anybody.
 
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