Tomlin Presser! He’s Delusional

[madinsomniac]

No coach should ever be with a single team for more than a decade. Their strategies and messages get stale. They get complacent. Tomlin probably has another 15 years of coaching left in him... trade him to Miami where he can make a run at shulas record there.

I have no doubt that down the brutal stretch of the schedule, he will magically find the solution to fix the team, as he always does, and finish 9-8 or 10-7...

But i have no faith he will be innovative enough to win another super bowl here.

 

[NoKap#7]

No surprise, you disrespect Broderick's brother.

Word of advice, Tomlin's Mom: avoid castigating the intelligence of another person by way of a comment rife with basic spelling or grammatical errors.



Go ahead and post the link where he said, "Yeah, I touched it" or "I was just hoping nobody noticed I touched it."

Oh, and you probably did not know that before the revised kickoff rules in the NFL and the current rule for college kickoffs was/is that a kickoff that goes into the endzone untouched is a touchback.



So the two options are:

• Johnson touched the ball, knew he touched it, knew the ball was live, knew he needed to cover it to avoid a turnover, but instead ignored it rolling into the endzone in the hopes that nobody noticed and he could get away with one.
• Johnson did not touch the ball and erroneously believed that the old NFL rule and the college rule he played under the year prior applied and a ball that rolls into the endzone untouched is a dead ball and a touchback.

The VASTLY more likely explanation is that he did not touch the ball and erroneously believed the ball was not live when it went into the endzone because that is the rule he played under his entire life before Sunday. It's called Occam's Razor. That shows it was a player error AND a coaching error.

1) The fact he skrrted around the question when he was asked directly is enough to convince me he knew that he touched it.

2) Replay video showed that he clearly touched it.

 

[Coryea]

No coach should ever be with a single team for more than a decade. Their strategies and messages get stale. They get complacent. Tomlin probably has another 15 years of coaching left in him... trade him to Miami where he can make a run at shulas record there.

I have no doubt that down the brutal stretch of the schedule, he will magically find the solution to fix the team, as he always does, and finish 9-8 or 10-7...

But i have no faith he will be innovative enough to win another super bowl here.

Cowhers didnt though, he won a playoff game with Maddox in his 12th season, should've been in the AFCCG that year if it weren't for Nedney taking a dive that would make LeBron proud.
Then won a playoff game with a rookie QB two years later, then a Super Bowl a year after that.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Historic defense?..hahaha. We should already know when they start running their traps before the season has even started,that it would be opposite.


They may want to dust off the game films of the 1976 Steelers.

 

[Steeltime]

1) The fact he skrrted around the question when he was asked directly is enough to convince me he knew that he touched it.

So no, you have no statement from him saying he touched it, and instead you make up a conclusion not based on what he said.

Got it.

2) Replay video showed that he clearly touched it.

You should look up the word "clearly." Here, let me give you an example of a proper use of the word:

NoBrain#7 clearly does not know the meaning of the word clearly when he says a video that does not show clear contact with the ball clearly shows contact with the ball.

 

[Phoenix1172]

Tomlin struggles with hiring people that are potentially better coaches than he is and in the process, he, and his staff, often appear to have a hard time developing young players. Young players like Benton and Jones come in and play well their first year out of college. Once Tomlin has had a year or two "coaching" them, many of the promising young players fall off.

Players like Watt are good enough to play above the coaching when in their prime. Now he's lost a step, but still good, Tomlin can't figure out a scheme to help him get by the double and triple teams, or figure out how to take advantage of those same double and triple teams by bringing more pressure from somewhere else.

 

[Sarge]

I just saw we are 29th in overall defense, and of course we are the highest paid defense in the league, sounds historic to me…

You mean there’s three defenses worse than the Steelers? As bad as the Steelers defense is, to be worse is absolutely abysmal.

 

[Coryea]

Tomlin struggles with hiring people that are potentially better coaches than he is and in the process, he, and his staff, often appear to have a hard time developing young players. Young players like Benton and Jones come in and play well their first year out of college. Once Tomlin has had a year or two "coaching" them, many of the promising young players fall off.

Players like Watt are good enough to play above the coaching when in their prime. Now he's lost a step, but still good, Tomlin can't figure out a scheme to help him get by the double and triple teams, or figure out how to take advantage of those same double and triple teams by bringing more pressure from somewhere else.

Does he struggle hiring people, or is it that he's such a egomaniac he can't have anyone that may be smarter or that will challenge "his way" of thinking?

 

[Drink IRON City]

Cowhers didnt though, he won a playoff game with Maddox in his 12th season, should've been in the AFCCG that year if it weren't for Nedney taking a dive that would make LeBron proud.
Then won a playoff game with a rookie QB two years later, then a Super Bowl a year after that.

Cowher’s teams always had hope, Tomlin’s teams of late don’t seem to have that.

It’s not the teams players actually, but the HC-ing duties that maintained the hope / hope-less.

The coaching has an expiration date, it’s up to owner(s) to determine that date. Our owner is blind & Def.




Salute the nation

 

[TungFu]

Said he was ok with the OL and that he saw an improvement with Broderick Jones.
Yeah, he only gave up one sack instead of three sacks like the prior week. Didn’t mention he was one of the worst graded OL for this game by PFF.
What the **** was he watching. Warren averaged 3.4 yards per carry. Rodgers was getting pressure all day.
Then to the defense. He actually made excuses can you imagine that. He said we have a lot of new players. We have some injuries. Then said they have to stay pretty basic with the schematics since the new guys are still learning it.
This is just more Tomlin bs! New guys! Look at Parsons in GB! The Packers know how to use him and they literally only had a few days to prepare him.
Injuries! BS! Every team experiences injuries. Have your backups prepared and ready to play.
Schematics! Like his defensive schemes are so sophisticated. More BS!
Also said his defense wore down toward the end of the game. More excuses!
Some NFL analysts were talking this morning about how the Steelers do not disguise their coverages. That OCs know how to manipulate these coverages.
Like I said in the summer, same ****,new year. Wash, rinse and repeat.

I couldn't agree more. I've been a Tomlin supporter for years but this is a really bad team and when players start regressing thats a huge red flag. I see teams all over the NFL with OL injuries and issues (Bucs for example) and they just keep rolling...that's coaching. We get an all pro OL from the Eagles and he gets worse almost immediately...that too is coaching. We draft 2 stud OL in the draft 2 years in a row and they both suck...coaching. Our OL was better LAST year...coaching. I also think Smith is a great OC and I believe Tomlin has his hands in the offense as well...everything Tomlin touches goes to crap.

If you watch clips of the Seahawks game the defense looks so soft against the run its embarrasing. Nobody is flying around trying to make plays most of the timme the LB's are late to move off the snap and are 6-7 yards deep DL are soft *** crap too...its ridiculous. Austin should have been gone last year, we havent had a respectable D in years and I know Tomlin pulls allm the strings so it may not matter who the DC is...which is even worse.

I think Tomlin is a smart guy but there is definitely something wrong with his and his staff's ability to get players better. I get we have a lot of new guys on defense and it takes time, ok granted. Having said that...wth did they play 1 freaking quarter in the pre-saeson then? This entire season is going to be a huge let down...so frustrating.

What kills me is Tomlin and his staff knew we were terrible against the run last year and vowed to fix it, even drafted players to help with that endeavor...but we are worse than we were last year and NOBODY is pointing at the coaching staff? I think the fact that none of Tomlin's assistants go on to be coordinators or head coaches is very telling...kind of tells you all you need to know about what the rest of the league thinks about them.

Rant over.

 

[jitter77]

Cowhers didnt though, he won a playoff game with Maddox in his 12th season, should've been in the AFCCG that year if it weren't for Nedney taking a dive that would make LeBron proud.
Then won a playoff game with a rookie QB two years later, then a Super Bowl a year after that.

I feel like it depends on the coach a no BS coach like cowher can get players to buy in. Wordsmith Tomlin just spews garbage w/o any actions and his "messages" just fall on deaf ears. Also Tomlin does not adapt or hire / let coordinators due their job. I think a good HC mainly delegates duties and only steps in when things are not going well. For example Tomlin could say we need to be more aggressive stopping the run and advocate for proper run stopping formations or players. Tell Austin no more 2 DL sets, put Holcomb on the field, and sell out to at least stop one aspect of the other team. We trot out the same players / formations and expect different results because Tomlin gives some word salad quote to the media.

 

[Coryea]

I feel like it depends on the coach a no BS coach like cowher can get players to buy in. Wordsmith Tomlin just spews garbage w/o any actions and his "messages" just fall on deaf ears. Also Tomlin does not adapt or hire / let coordinators due their job. I think a good HC mainly delegates duties and only steps in when things are not going well. For example Tomlin could say we need to be more aggressive stopping the run and advocate for proper run stopping formations or players. Tell Austin no more 2 DL sets, put Holcomb on the field, and sell out to at least stop one aspect of the other team. We trot out the same players / formations and expect different results because Tomlin gives some word salad quote to the media.

Agreed, and Cowher was much better at turning over a roster and rebuilding, there's no debating that part of it, that really helps too.

 

[Steelmann]

and NOBODY is pointing at the coaching staff?

Welcome…..good rant. You’ll find that at least 90% on this site have been pointing at the staff for years. The other 10% are either trolls or just don’t have a clue.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Welcome…..good rant. You’ll find that at least 90% on this site have been pointing at the staff for years. The other 10% are either trolls or just don’t have a clue.

Even tho I’ve had many flame throwing sessions with bermudasteel and SteelerInLebanon I think they are at their core good dudes and real Steeler fans who just really just want Tomlin kept as HC.

The rest are absolutely trolls

The other 95% of us believe Tomlin and his yes man staff, along with Tomlin’s influence over the draft are the problem