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The Epstein Problem

Hopefully someone is going to leak this information now that the activist judge has ruled
 
I agree with the judge somewhat. Releasing the grand jury transcripts will do nothing or not give us anything new. The judge stated that the govt should release the troves of files they have. Trump knows there is nothing in the grand jury transcripts, but it's making seem like he is doing something while in reality doing nothing. Trump should be pushing the FBI or whoever to release whatever info they have. That is much more valuable than some transcripts from the trial. I say just release it all to erase all doubt. I still believe very high profile people will be implicated which is why no administration is really pushing for the truth to come out.
 
Trump isn't worried about outing bad actors, he is worried that losing the leverage over those bad actors will allow them, as they attempt to deflect and defend, to release other information that will substantially weaken the people's faith in government.

If the consent of the governed is lost, what happens?
 
Democrats want to see evidence, pictures, audio, of Trump with underage girls. There is no evidence. Republicans want to see pictures of Biden with very young children. Hunter smoking Crack. Clinton with young girls. It will never be seen.

Nothing will happen. Some, like joy Reid, will continue to complain.
 
There is a whole lot of semantics in this Epstein issue.

Epstein and Maxwell were both convicted for sex crimes with underage kids and other people.

Name those other people in the cases that caused the convictions, along with their involvement.
 
There is a whole lot of semantics in this Epstein issue.

Epstein and Maxwell were both convicted for sex crimes with underage kids and other people.

Name those other people in the cases that caused the convictions, along with their involvement.
This. Epstein and Maxwell were convicted of trafficking children to no one apparently. Makes no sense.
 
There is a whole lot of semantics in this Epstein issue.

Epstein and Maxwell were both convicted for sex crimes with underage kids and other people.

Name those other people in the cases that caused the convictions, along with their involvement.
Libtard Obama judges keep blocking the release because they know it implicates mostly democrats.
 
This. Epstein and Maxwell were convicted of trafficking children to no one apparently. Makes no sense.
Maxwell was convicted of trafficking young girls to (only) Epstein. Nothing else to see here, move along.

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Maxwell said she never saw anything inappropriate.

but she was charged with sex trafficking.

so, is sex trafficking inappropriate to her?
 
I still don't believe this involved any high profile politicians except possibly Clinton, but there had to be some very powerful ($$$$$$) people involved in the trafficking of children.

And just who were these children and where are their parents? Doesn't make any sense that no one has come forward unless there were a boatload of nondisclosure agreements.
 
When my dad was a MFCC in the 70s, he told me about a lady he had counseled in the past, whose husband owed some group a lot of gambling money. He settled the debt by allowing them to make his wife a heroine addict against her will, and pimping her out for a few years. Not sure how she got away from that, but she needed some serious help after that.

My guess is that there are lady addicts who get indebted to the pusher, and someone ends up in some circuit somewhere. I've read where these kids rescued from the trade, don't have SSI numbers, birth certificates, inoculation records, etc. They are leveraged from the family by some means. I doubt it was by winning a raffle.
 
I still don't believe this involved any high profile politicians except possibly Clinton, but there had to be some very powerful ($$$$$$) people involved in the trafficking of children.

And just who were these children and where are their parents? Doesn't make any sense that no one has come forward unless there were a boatload of nondisclosure agreements.
A multi-millionaire offers to train your teenage daughter as a masseuse and fly her all over the world to "give massages" to rich and famous people.
What could possibly go wrong there?
 
A multi-millionaire offers to train your teenage daughter as a masseuse and fly her all over the world to "give massages" to rich and famous people.
What could possibly go wrong there?
Well we know that Bob Kraft probably wasn't involved. Handjob Bob would never pay more than $79 for a happy ending down at the mall.
 
Maxwell said she never saw anything inappropriate.

but she was charged with sex trafficking.

so, is sex trafficking inappropriate to her?

If she were asked that question she would answer yes. A no brainer for her.
Her claiming not to have seen anything was part of her defense against charges of sex trafficking.
 
It is entirely possible that Maxwell could have trafficked girls to Epsteins properties without knowing who the clients were.
Her role may have been to send them where Epstein instructed her to. That doesn’t require her having a client list either.

  • Facilitation of abuse. Maxwell organized the abuse, arranging for the victims to travel to and be sexually exploited at Epstein's properties in New York, Florida, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Epstein then provided the plane rides to those his locations for his clientele.

My theory.
 
It is entirely possible that Maxwell could have trafficked girls to Epsteins properties without knowing who the clients were.
Her role may have been to send them where Epstein instructed her to. That doesn’t require her having a client list either.

  • Facilitation of abuse. Maxwell organized the abuse, arranging for the victims to travel to and be sexually exploited at Epstein's properties in New York, Florida, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Epstein then provided the plane rides to those his locations for his clientele.

My theory.
Before you have clientele there has to be victims, and apparently this Epstein problem has neither.
 
It is entirely possible that Maxwell could have trafficked girls to Epsteins properties without knowing who the clients were.
Her role may have been to send them where Epstein instructed her to. That doesn’t require her having a client list either.

  • Facilitation of abuse. Maxwell organized the abuse, arranging for the victims to travel to and be sexually exploited at Epstein's properties in New York, Florida, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.
Epstein then provided the plane rides to those his locations for his clientele.

My theory.
Or she could have been a participant, or fluffer.
 
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