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Kaboly says Steelers Listening to trade offers for Watt

Coryea said:
That's what I'm saying, our HC (who is the actually DC) isn't doing anything to make teams pay for doubling and tripling Watt, there are very few blitzes. I mean you don't need to be a genius to know, if they are dedicating 2 and 3 guys to Watt who your LOLB, then the right side or middle of that offense is going to be very vulnerable to a blitz, yet very rarely do we even show a blitz.
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Williamson was at minicamp, and he stated that by appearance anyway, that looks like it might change. So we'll see. I keep hoping Tomlin has some self awareness. Last year with his move to Wilson, and then announcing that is why he is highly compensated, and then it to end the way it did, it had to be humbling.
 
Avoid_Lloyd said:
DK’s double shot segment yesterday talked some about QB’s latitude to audible. DK said Wilson basically wasn’t allowed to do it. He also said pre snap changes are one of the things Rodgers does best. DK said there has been some discussion that Rodgers would have several plays to choose from to audible to.

That would be a very welcome and BIG change if it ends up happening-as long as the audibles have aggressive options that suit Rodgers skill set and comfort level

I’ll remain hopeful but skeptical until I see a real downfield passing attack In the regular season. We all remember Pickett lighting it up in the preseason his 2nd year only to go back to cave man ball when the regular season started
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I say this a lot, but my buddies and I used to laugh when Ben, even in his prime, would call audibles. They never seemed to amount to much. Audibling is different than calling your own plays in the no huddle or hurry up. Ben would get up there, there would be pointing, blue 52 and all that shiit, the announcers would say he's audibling, your all excited waiting for the big play...and...pfft. His big plays came much more from the no huddle/hurry up or just manufacturing something. I think Rodgers is a different dude with that, though. They'd better give him some freedom.

Preseason is just that, preseason. It doesn't mean much. San Fransisco was a hell of a lot better than anything they faced in the preseason.
 
diver said:
I say this a lot, but my buddies and I used to laugh when Ben, even in his prime, would call audibles. They never seemed to amount to much. Audibling is different than calling your own plays in the no huddle or hurry up. Ben would get up there, there would be pointing, blue 52 and all that shiit, the announcers would say he's audibling, your all excited waiting for the big play...and...pfft. His big plays came much more from the no huddle/hurry up or just manufacturing something. I think Rodgers is a different dude with that, though. They'd better give him some freedom.

Preseason is just that, preseason. It doesn't mean much. San Fransisco was a hell of a lot better than anything they faced in the preseason.
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Dilly, dilly
 
diver said:
I say this a lot, but my buddies and I used to laugh when Ben, even in his prime, would call audibles. They never seemed to amount to much. Audibling is different than calling your own plays in the no huddle or hurry up. Ben would get up there, there would be pointing, blue 52 and all that shiit, the announcers would say he's audibling, your all excited waiting for the big play...and...pfft. His big plays came much more from the no huddle/hurry up or just manufacturing something. I think Rodgers is a different dude with that, though. They'd better give him some freedom.

Preseason is just that, preseason. It doesn't mean much. San Fransisco was a hell of a lot better than anything they faced in the preseason.
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The funniest thing Ben would do was on 4th and shorts in his own territory he'd run up to the LOS and start barking like Cave Man was going to go for it and Shades would waste a first half time out every time on the hijinks as they tried to get the punt team in or delay of game. It was like Ric Flair going up on the top rope and 30,000 people knowing he wasn't running a play from there. When Tomlin had a high powered offense of sorts he wasted time outs. Now that possessions and points are at premium, he keeps them in his pocket the last 2 minutes of the half.
 
On another site there is an article on Watt working out as Wisconsin and Herbig is there working out as well. There is a picture of them standing next to each other. Herbig looks one of those guys you see on a regular basis at the gym, good shape, built, all that, but kinda a dime a dozen. Then you got Watt. Holy shiit.

Maybe we all, including me, have to pump the brakes on the "it's ok if they trade him" talk.
 
Coryea said:
Lebeau was calling the defense in the early years, no doubt about that, just watch and that looks identical to a LeBeau defense. Like I said earlier, after the Tebow playoff game, alot of people were questioning that defense, saying the game passed LeBeau by, that defense was so soft, played off the WR's, didn't come after Tebow. We played a ton of zone then, that defense started to resemble a tampa 2, which is supposedly Tomlin's thing. LeBeau left, went to Tennessee and ran more man defense than all but 2 or 3 teams in the NFL. So obviously Tomlin was taking control here. Butler followed LeBeau, after he retired he said he didn't get to call the defenses on game days. So Tomlin took control from a HOF DC, then didn't let the guy that followed him call the defenses on game days, you think he's allowing Austin to do what he wants to do? Our defense has looked the same for a decade, and it has gotten embarrassed in the playoffs the last 6 games even though all the players (except Cam) have changed and over multiple DC's.

I'm not saying Austin or Tomlin doesn't know what a blitz is, I'm saying Tomlin is to conservative/afraid to call one. The same HC that said after the season he avoids the middle of the field on offense because that's where alot of turnovers happen.
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I think we're overlooking a huge difference between the job Coach Lebeau had to do in running zone blitzes from the 3-4 base was the rarity of mobile QBs plus the new pass first and RPO offenses would have given him head and heart aches every game.

I am not saying Coach Austin/Tomlin's defense is better but they are completely different in scheme and what they defend now vs. then...
 
diver said:
On another site there is an article on Watt working out as Wisconsin and Herbig is there working out as well. There is a picture of them standing next to each other. Herbig looks one of those guys you see on a regular basis at the gym, good shape, built, all that, but kinda a dime a dozen. Then you got Watt. Holy shiit.

Maybe we all, including me, have to pump the brakes on the "it's ok if they trade him" talk.
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100% agree, while love what Herbig brings, don't think he can hold up as every down guy yet for what steelers ask OLBs to do in addition to rushing passer (such as hold the edge vs large people). A few more years of building up may help him though...
 
If you are going to run the BS 2 DL set that Tomlin is in love with, I would go with 5 LB's. and rush 5-6 every play. Put in Holcomb to play in the middle then Wilson and Queen next to him, Watt and Highsmith on the edge.
 
Coryea said:
That's what I'm saying, our HC (who is the actually DC) isn't doing anything to make teams pay for doubling and tripling Watt, there are very few blitzes. I mean you don't need to be a genius to know, if they are dedicating 2 and 3 guys to Watt who your LOLB, then the right side or middle of that offense is going to be very vulnerable to a blitz, yet very rarely do we even show a blitz.
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End of conversation
 
Coryea said:
That's what I'm saying, our HC (who is the actually DC) isn't doing anything to make teams pay for doubling and tripling Watt, there are very few blitzes. I mean you don't need to be a genius to know, if they are dedicating 2 and 3 guys to Watt who your LOLB, then the right side or middle of that offense is going to be very vulnerable to a blitz, yet very rarely do we even show a blitz.
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Bring back the ILB cross fire blitz
Put some pressure on the interior OL

They’ll never know what hit em
Heck both guys might come in clean
 
diver said:
I say this a lot, but my buddies and I used to laugh when Ben, even in his prime, would call audibles. They never seemed to amount to much. Audibling is different than calling your own plays in the no huddle or hurry up. Ben would get up there, there would be pointing, blue 52 and all that shiit, the announcers would say he's audibling, your all excited waiting for the big play...and...pfft. His big plays came much more from the no huddle/hurry up or just manufacturing something. I think Rodgers is a different dude with that, though. They'd better give him some freedom.

Preseason is just that, preseason. It doesn't mean much. San Fransisco was a hell of a lot better than anything they faced in the preseason.
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I’d be happy with seeing the QB slide the protection and hit a slant behind the picked up blitz

It doesn’t have to be extravagant to be effective

Who am I kidding, I’d be happy if they just did a hot read to a slant once in a blue moon, sometimes it’s so obviously open it kills me.
 
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