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Good Zinger on how Steelers currently doin business

Well Im of the belief that as these terms like Tomlinship and Pittsburgatory take hold......pride will eventually kick in and they will do what needs to be done. But who knows I just watched a talking head in a discussion about the current Steelers situation.......Why should Mike Tomlin want the Pittsburgh Steelers. Well dude. You say they suck and he literally makes every football decision.....Sooooooo? Tomlin can hide behind his ****** *** coordinators. He cannot hide behind the GMs. Even Colbert and Pickett. He is the man good and bad.
 
Bottom line here…. Tomlin has an enormous amount of influence on building the roster. Anyone that thinks that Omar makes these moves on his own without Tomlin being behind them is just naive.
IMO all these moves made this off season are moves of desperation and it’s like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Let us see how this plays out and if it all blows up in their faces, will Tomlin be held accountable?
I hope as a life long Steeler supporter that this all works out but man do I have reservations about this thing.
 
steelhurt said:
Bottom line here…. Tomlin has an enormous amount of influence on building the roster. Anyone that thinks that Omar makes these moves on his own without Tomlin being behind them is just naive.
IMO all these moves made this off season are moves of desperation and it’s like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Let us see how this plays out and if it all blows up in their faces, will Tomlin be held accountable?
I hope as a life long Steeler supporter that this all works out but man do I have reservations about this thing.
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I actually like the moves I just am not confident n the X and O aspect. Bringing it all together.

I just don’t see it as a sinking ship. More like a ship that stays above water but doesn’t take you were you want to go.

Still at least there is enough new pieces worthy of to make it an interesting watch.
 
slashsteel said:
I actually like the moves I just am not confident n the X and O aspect. Bringing it all together.

I just don’t see it as a sinking ship. More like a ship that stays above water but doesn’t take you were you want to go.

Still at least there is enough new pieces worthy of to make it an interesting watch.
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Idk. What intrigues me is the moves as well. But this guy sat there in front of the football world after the Jets game when he put in Wilson and bragged about that is why he is highly compensated. A bit arrogant, eh? And then for it to end the way it did. It had to be humbling, I would hope. Humbling enough to realize what you are doing ain't working. I am really hoping that is the case.
 
slashsteel said:
I actually like the moves I just am not confident n the X and O aspect. Bringing it all together.

I just don’t see it as a sinking ship. More like a ship that stays above water but doesn’t take you were you want to go.

Still at least there is enough new pieces worthy of to make it an interesting watch.
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There would be zero wrong with the moves except for this thing called the future. They will almost certainly win more games then they would have. .........but they wont sniff a championship and we will all be back next April at draft pick 20.
 
I laugh every time I hear that Tomlin makes all the decisions without any other input. These decisions are made as a group effort, and if they aren’t, they should be. No GM is making moves in a vacuum without input from others.
 
MT~Forged said:
I laugh every time I hear that Tomlin makes all the decisions without any other input. These decisions are made as a group effort, and if they aren’t, they should be. No GM is making moves in a vacuum without input from others.
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Read again what I said. The emphasis was on Tomlin being behind these decisions. He gets what he wants and a perfect example is Rodgers.
Tomlin wanted Rodgers come hell or high water and he got him.
We have the highest paid defense in the league four years straight now but they don’t always play like it. You think Tomlin is not behind that?
As an example, the Chiefs and Eagles rank near the bottom on how they pay their defenses. Their money is spent on offense.
Yes, Omar and Andy certainly have input but don’t kid yourself who is really running this shitshow.
 
steelhurt said:
IMO all these moves made this off season are moves of desperation and it’s like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Shades has finally realized that it’s been a while since he’s won a playoff game and the media is starting to notice.
 
steelhurt said:
Read again what I said. The emphasis was on Tomlin being behind these decisions. He gets what he wants and a perfect example is Rodgers.
Tomlin wanted Rodgers come hell or high water and he got him.
We have the highest paid defense in the league four years straight now but they don’t always play like it. You think Tomlin is not behind that?
As an example, the Chiefs and Eagles rank near the bottom on how they pay their defenses. Their money is spent on offense.
Yes, Omar and Andy certainly have input but don’t kid yourself who is really running this shitshow.
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I don’t disagree, but this comparison to the eagles and chiefs specifically always kill me…

Chiefs specially have a mahomes contract, a premier RT & G on a franchise tag. Not to mention their HOF TE who was considered the best in the league when he signed his contract.

While Rodgers is on a cheap cheap deal, we have 4/5 starting OL, RB 1 & 2 (presumed), and WR 2-3 all on their rookie deals, and did just give DK a nice chunk of change. I don’t completely think you’re off base with the principle, but, Call that what it is.

this team has always built heavy on the defense regardless of who’s the coach. That will shift a bit when we have a hefty QB contract to pay like the others. Be careful what you wish for, don’t forget that $50 million cap hit or whatever it was Ben’s last year that put us in a bind.

Eagles are the opposite of us just about, a ton of defensive pieces on rookie contracts.
 
MT~Forged said:
I laugh every time I hear that Tomlin makes all the decisions without any other input. These decisions are made as a group effort, and if they aren’t, they should be. No GM is making moves in a vacuum without input from others.
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There are many opinions and voices in the room but do you honestly believe he isn't the final say? Really? What is Kahn's football Acumen?
 
SteelerSask2 said:
There are many opinions and voices in the room but do you honestly believe he isn't the final say? Really? What is Kahn's football Acumen?
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In my mind, I think Colbert likely had more say through his tenure. Was there pre-Tomlin.

Tomlin probably has more say in the Khan regime since he’s been there much longer.

And I like the moves by Khan & co much better than Colbert & co.
 
Pollardo40 said:
In my mind, I think Colbert likely had more say through his tenure. Was there pre-Tomlin.

Tomlin probably has more say in the Khan regime since he’s been there much longer.

And I like the moves by Khan & co much better than Colbert & co.
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Colbert had football chops. And yes had heavy experience. Considering he was almost done when they drafted Kenny, I'd say Tomlin still had big say. Kahn has been with the organization a long time and he understand deals. But he doesn't have scouting, coaching or I'd assume major playing experience. Im not saying he has no opinion or that opinion is meaningless. Im saying no on field decision is being made without Tomlin"s ok. That echoes what Roethlisberger said.
 
Pollardo40 said:
In my mind, I think Colbert likely had more say through his tenure. Was there pre-Tomlin.

Tomlin probably has more say in the Khan regime since he’s been there much longer.

And I like the moves by Khan & co much better than Colbert & co.
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This was settled when Donahoe and Cowher had their dispute.

However! Since Kahn and Weidle came about i feel like there has been a shift . Cant say how much,,
 
steelhurt said:
Read again what I said. The emphasis was on Tomlin being behind these decisions. He gets what he wants and a perfect example is Rodgers.
Tomlin wanted Rodgers come hell or high water and he got him.
We have the highest paid defense in the league four years straight now but they don’t always play like it. You think Tomlin is not behind that?
As an example, the Chiefs and Eagles rank near the bottom on how they pay their defenses. Their money is spent on offense.
Yes, Omar and Andy certainly have input but don’t kid yourself who is really running this shitshow.
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My comment was not directed at you personally
 
SteelerSask2 said:
Colbert had football chops. And yes had heavy experience. Considering he was almost done when they drafted Kenny, I'd say Tomlin still had big say.
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Clarifying question - are you putting the Pickett selection on Tomlin?

I would go the other way. I think that pick was Colbert trying to desperately make his mark on the way out and set the team up with a QB.

I absolutely HATE that they let Colbert stick around for that draft. He announced his retirement, they should’ve handed it off instead of throwing a going away party that set us back 5 more years.
 
I had zero problem with the pick. And for me to **** on it is simply revisionist history. Very few people thought he would be there when the Steelers picked. They had the Steelers taking Malik Willis who went in the third. But there is no pick, FA or trade happening on this team without Mike Tomlins approval. None. He is the 18 year HC of the team. I'd say he can be talked into things. And Kevin Colbert probably had a lot more to do with that the Omar Kahn.
 
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xjx said:
The terms were coined to reflect truth. Pittsburgh fans won't like it. It will spill over onto the national scene and it will tarnish Roonys shiny image. Tomlin too.

The love affair is over.
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Business is BOOMing




Salute the nation
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Shades has finally realized that it’s been a while since he’s won a playoff game and the media is starting to notice.
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^^^^^this^^^^^

He wants to get that playoff win so he can bury that conundrum for another 8 years of no accountability.




Salute the nation
 
steelhurt said:
Let us see how this plays out and if it all blows up in their faces, will Tomlin be held accountable?
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Short answer is no.

I hope the season is a success and by that, I mean a 10+ win regular season and at least 1 playoff win.
But I suspect all of these additions and subtractions are nothing but a distraction and will result in a season that we're all too familiar with.

Again, I hope I'm wrong, it's just that history tells me I'm not.
 
steelhurt said:
Bottom line here…. Tomlin has an enormous amount of influence on building the roster. Anyone that thinks that Omar makes these moves on his own without Tomlin being behind them is just naive.
IMO all these moves made this off season are moves of desperation and it’s like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.
Let us see how this plays out and if it all blows up in their faces, will Tomlin be held accountable?
I hope as a life long Steeler supporter that this all works out but man do I have reservations about this thing.
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We’ll see if his Tomcepts take over the league and he revolutionizes play with conservative play and baseball scores and game shortening techniques that make the game like watching grass grow or paint dry…I’m certain one of these days the Tomcepts will obviously reign supreme and the Steelers will rise to glory hoisting number 7 averaging 17 pts a game.

Just a matter of time
 
Fiji Mariner said:
We’ll see if his Tomcepts take over the league and he revolutionizes play with conservative play and baseball scores and game shortening techniques that make the game like watching grass grow or paint dry…I’m certain one of these days the Tomcepts will obviously reign supreme and the Steelers will rise to glory hoisting number 7 averaging 17 pts a game.

Just a matter of time
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Remember that one time when he had his best team and he beat the Chargers 11-10 in like the only 11-10 game in the annals of NFL history? We didn't know it at the time, but what a harbinger of Tomceptual greatness that would follow.
 
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