Kupp on the trade market.

[insaniti]

It's hard to know the real story just by those numbers, like how often were they trailing in the 2nd half that skewed those numbers, or vice versa how many times were they leading that skewed those numbers. How often did they run on 1st down, etc.

I don't think it does, because when you compare the numbers as a whole, from year to year, it all evens out. It would be one thing if they drastically changed from one team to the next. But they are relatively the same. You can find little nuances that could speak to the success or failure of an offense (like our running 59% on first down and getting behind the chains). But as a whole, your totals are going to speak to the type of offense you're trying to be.

 

[Coryea]

I don't think it does, because when you compare the numbers as a whole, from year to year, it all evens out. It would be one thing if they drastically changed from one team to the next. But they are relatively the same. You can find little nuances that could speak to the success or failure of an offense (like our running 59% on first down and getting behind the chains). But as a whole, your totals are going to speak to the type of offense you're trying to be.

Maybe, but just look at our 2005 Super Bowl run in the post season we ran the ball 142 time and threw it 96 times, that looks like we were a run heavy team, but we definitely weren't a run first team during that run, we came out throwing the ball.
Even Bens rookie year, we ran the ball like 600 times, but there were alot of games where we threw early, got the lead then sat on it with the run game.

 

[Aussie_Steeler]

I can see how it would seem that way, 60% run. But doing some actual research, I've discovered that not to be the case. In fact, we ended the year with a 48/52 split rushing to passing. This is how each game broke down in terms of pass attempts and rush attempts.

ATL - rush 41, pass 23
DEN - rush 36, pass 20
LAC - rush 31, pass 32
IND - rush 30, pass 34
DAL - rush 26, pass 28
OAK - rush 36, pass 24
NYJ - rush 36, pass 29
NYG - rush 31, pass 28
WASH - rush 43, pass 29
BAL - rush 34, pass 36
CLE - rush 34, pass 29
CIN - rush 26, pass 38
CLE - rush 35, pass 26
PHI - rush 17, pass 22
BAL - rush 24, pass 33
KC - rush 31, pass 37
CIN - rush 23, pass 31

I don't think the ratio of rush to pass is the issue, I think the ratio on FIRST down is an issue, we ran the ball 59.1% of the time on first down, fourth highest in the league. I found this cheat sheet on the season at Steelers.com. A LOT of interesting info about the season. Definitely worth the read.

https://www.steelers.com/news/cheat-sheet-an-overview-of-steelers-2024-offense

If you look at it game by game, they tended to pass more in games they lost, indicating the pass came out when they were behind. 6 of 7 losses passes exceeded rushes, only 3 of 10 wins passes exceeded rushes (and one if those was the Cincinatti shootout). If you break down the passes on first down by half I'll bet most of them are in the second half.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

Reading some things that the Rams may be willing to pay some of Kupp's salary. If they can get Kupp cheap like they got Russ then I'm interested. I just can't see paying him significant money with his age and injury history.

 

[insaniti]

Thing is, Deebo is on the market now, Adam's as well. So I believe this will only drive Kupps price down.

 

[TDX27]

Rumors are they want a 4th for him. That's a bit rich for me unless they pay at least half his bloated salary the next 2 years.

 

[madinsomniac]

Austin plays slot and so does Roman Wilson. Plus, if Arthur SMith has his way, they will rarely use a slot WR. They will be in 2 TE more often. Bringing in Kupp would be overkill unless they trade away Wilson.

I never understood the Wilson pick anyway.

Tomlin likes to use slot type guys outside... CA3 lines up there... DJ coming out was projected as a slot guy in some scouting reports... he likes one big play guy and one shifty guy...

The real issue is Smith wants wr2 to be a pure blocker... so we would get a guy then not use him like we did at the deadline last year

 

[TDX27]

Deebo Samuel is looking to be traded. He'd be a good WR2. He's never truly been a WR1. I believe his cap hit this coming year is about $15 million. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Steelers uniform.

 

[slashsteel]

Deebo Samuel is looking to be traded. He'd be a good WR2. He's never truly been a WR1. I believe his cap hit this coming year is about $15 million. I wouldn't mind seeing him in a Steelers uniform.

His injury history concerns me. But I am sure that concern exists for just about any free agent available this year..

 

[insaniti]

His injury history concerns me. But I am sure that concern exists for just about any free agent available this year..

It's not any worse than Kupp, which unless we use the draft to fill that WR2 hole, that's the choices we'll have