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Just read an article that made me shake my head

steelhurt said:
Depends on who is responsible when you draft.
Ben was drafted high, Plex was drafted high, both Santonio Holmes and Troy P. Were drafted after considerable move up in the draft.
Also, since we’ve been on this non losing streak we’re never positioned high enough to draft a blue chip and franchise QB. We have to settle for guys like Picket at 20 or Najee at 22.
That’s how Chargers got Herbert, Bengals got Burrow and Chase, Chiefs got Mahomes.
And again, also matters who has strong input in your draft too.
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You do realize that the Steelers beat the Chargers and the Bengals are 4-7, right?
 
Gildong Sack said:
LOL...You almost wrote my thoughts. Russ is doing great and now the rumor is we are going to resign him, THE SKY IS FALLING! We will make the playoffs and this team now has an ability it hasn't had in years. And that is to come back from a deficit and win. We have the possibility to get beyond the first round and maybe to the AFCCG...once there anything can happen.

I am not a Tomlin fan by any stretch, but I'll praise him for bringing Russ and Fields here. That gives us something we haven't had in years...since Ben maybe 10 years back, and that's hope of achieving something worthwhile this year and something to keep building on. Once Highsmith comes back the defense will look different. Hopefully someone steps up from the WR room to be the bookend to Pickens.

We beat the Ravens...basically shut down their offense which some were calling the best in the NFL and then we had a short week loss to a team who treated this game as their Super Bowl..in a snowstorm...and we act like Bungles fans:ROFLMAO:. We will be fine.

I believe. **** I have to, I'm getting old and can't wait much longer.
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A high proportion of Pickett's wins were come from behind 4th quarter wins.
 
Troglodyte said:
You do realize that the Steelers beat the Chargers and the Bengals are 4-7, right?
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The Chargers are an up and coming team with a proven head coach. They will have success with Harbaugh sooner than we will with Mediocre Mike.
The Bengals are 4-7 losing some pretty damn close games. They have Joe Burrow and a good offense. Their problem is no defense.
You do know the Browns were 2-8 and are now 3-8 thanks to that Thursday night debacle.
 
steelhurt said:
You do know the Browns were 2-8 and are now 3-8 thanks to that Thursday night debacle.
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Right, and it didn’t have anything to do with not having better draft position. The Steelers RT, drafted 14th overall, isn’t exactly setting the world on fire.
 
Troglodyte said:
Right, and it didn’t have anything to do with not having better draft position. The Steelers RT, drafted 14th overall, isn’t exactly setting the world on fire.
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Throggy,, it’s too soon to throw Broderick to the scrap heap. He’s was very young and raw coming out of Ga. and playing out of position. He’ll be fine!
What’s your argument Throggy? You think we can get a franchise QB in the middle anc late rounds? Nope! You need to draft that guy in the top of draft.
 
steelhurt said:
Throggy,, it’s too soon to throw Broderick to the scrap heap. He’s was very young and raw coming out of Ga. and playing out of position. He’ll be fine!
What’s your argument Throggy? You think we can get a franchise QB in the middle anc late rounds? Nope! You need to draft that guy in the top of draft.
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Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Russel Wilson, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins and Brock Purdy disagree.
 
Troglodyte said:
Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Russel Wilson, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins and Brock Purdy disagree.
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Perhaps you missed Tom Brady's statement about today's QBs need to play today, they no longer stand on the sidelines and learn a pro style system and get reps in garbage time to get tape to analyze and correct. They transfer to other teams to gain NIL money and start their "brand" recognition. NCAA QB's learning read option gimmick offenses being either shoehorned into pro style systems or NFL coaches adapting to the simplified offenses so their franchise QB's don't **** the bed.
 
Outside of QB which is the ultimate crap shoot most people should be able to choose a quality player with the 1st 32nd picks of all eligible college football talent. Doesn't mean there isn't mistakes.
 
Badcat said:
Perhaps you missed Tom Brady's statement about today's QBs need to play today, they no longer stand on the sidelines and learn a pro style system and get reps in garbage time to get tape to analyze and correct. They transfer to other teams to gain NIL money and start their "brand" recognition. NCAA QB's learning read option gimmick offenses being either shoehorned into pro style systems or NFL coaches adapting to the simplified offenses so their franchise QB's don't **** the bed.
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And while teams stand a better chance of finding a franchise QB drafting one high in the first 5-10 picks, they also risk wasting several years trying to develop that pick because of the commitment.
 
Troglodyte said:
Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Russel Wilson, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins and Brock Purdy disagree.
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Of course there are always exceptions but for the most part a high percentage of
your top QBs get drafted high in first round.
Brady is the only one with multiple SBs and Brees and Wilson have one each,
These guys all over achieved and that’s great but unless you get very lucky chances are you end up with Pickets, Rudolph’s, Ridders, Willis of the world.
Brock not taking anything away from him is playing in a great system with top notch talent. Same with I never win **** Dak.
 
That was in response calling Tomlin mediocre, while saying Jim Harbaugh is a proven head coach.
 
paperclip said:
If Mike Tomlin is mediocre, so is Jim Harbaugh
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That’s not true! Very successful in SF then went to Michigan and was very successful there. Although he lost his SB appearance with Kaperstink as his QB, he’s been to one more recent than Tomlin.
 
Tomlin
Regular season:181–103–2 (.636)
Postseason:8–10 (.444)
Career:189–113–2 (.625)

Harbaugh
Regular season:51–22–1 (.696)
Postseason:5–3 (.625)
Career:56–25–1 (.689)

Eh. Seems like they're both proven NFL coaches.
 
paperclip said:
Tomlin

Regular season:181–103–2 (.636)
Postseason:8–10 (.444)
Career:189–113–2 (.625)

Harbaugh

Regular season:51–22–1 (.696)
Postseason:5–3 (.625)
Career:56–25–1 (.689)

Eh. Seems like they're both proven NFL coaches.
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Tomlin has been in the league as a HC for 18 seasons. Harbaugh coached four years with SF.
 
paperclip said:
That was in response calling Tomlin mediocre, while saying Jim Harbaugh is a proven head coach.
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He has been mediocre since the 2011 season. We had some stacked teams along the way and got to one, one AFCCG and got destroyed.
Harbaugh built a very good team in SF and got that team to a SB that he was close to winning. He will do it again if he stays with the Chargers.
 
I guess we'll see. It's very difficult to win NFL games.

I'm not very familiar with his SF team-building details. Why'd he leave there?
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
A high proportion of Pickett's wins were come from behind 4th quarter wins.
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Yeah he did, but the thing that stands out with him is in 2022: 9 to 7 Td to interception ratio and in 2023: 6 to 4 Td to interception ratio....just like at Pitt. And that was the knock on him coming out of college. Russ rarely turns the ball over.
 
KentuckySteeler said:
Russini says we are going to re-sign Wilson and another guy said we will draft Jaylen Milroe as the starter-to-be.

No way we draft that guy, but nothing they do in the draft surprises me anymore. I think they will probably re-sign Wilson and the winning seasons will live on in Steeler lore. smfh
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To the discussion about Russ…I think he has been ok and still has what it takes to take a team to a championship right now with the right pieces around him, which we don’t have right now especially on offense. Father Time will also be coming for Russ in the next 1-3 years

Signing Russ or not this offseason is probably the #1 question and obviously we will see how the rest of the year plays out. I think for better or worse we are in win now mode from the front office perspective entering the end of the primes of Watt, Minkah, and Cam and will sign him.

In my dream we sign Russ to a 2 year deal, fill out the WR, RB, and Dline rooms in the 2025 draft then go fullMike Ditka on Ricky Williams and give up every pick for 2 years to get Arch Manning in 2026 only unlike Ditka it works out for us
 
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Steelr4evr said:
How about the playoff record over the last decade?Three wins. Two wins against backup tier quarterbacks and a bungle team who gave us a win through complete bungle stupidity.


It's been 14 YEARS since a Steeler Superbowl appearance and 16 YEARS since they won.


There's a lot of young people who have never seen the Steelers win jack ****.

They're not even knocking on the door.
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16 years since a SB win just like it had been 16 years between beating the Rams at the end of the 70s and losing to the Boys in '95. We were so hungry then for another taste of winning a SB. Now? Any enthusiasm is dampened by having Tomlin as head coach for life at this point. The Steelers org has changed and now seems content with one and dones.
 
steelhurt said:
That’s not true! Very successful in SF then went to Michigan and was very successful there. Although he lost his SB appearance with Kaperstink as his QB, he’s been to one more recent than Tomlin.
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And SF should have won that Super Bowl had the Ravens not been allowed to hold (I mean brutally mug) several 49er players on Jacoby Jones' kickoff return TD.
 
oicu8ad said:
And SF should have won that Super Bowl had the Ravens not been allowed to hold (I mean brutally mug) several 49er players on Jacoby Jones' kickoff return TD.
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I'd rather have The Raven's win a token SB than the 49'ers tie us with 6. I want to be the first to 7.
 
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