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The Coaching Decision We SHOULD Be Talking About Today

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Everyone is going to beat the final play call to death and rightfully so. But, pretend for a minute that Seattle doesn't try to out-think the world.

So Seattle runs it with Lynch on 1st and goal down to the 1. At that point there's just under 1:00 left. With 2 timeouts left, the Pats decide NOT to take a timeout and let the clock run all the way down under :30. Why?? Even the announcers were saying they should just "let him score" to preserve time. They had 2 timeouts to "preserve time", they didn't need to let him score. Should the Seahawks run it with Lynch on 2nd down and get a TD, they have over :50 left to try to get in FG range if they take a timeout there. Instead, they would've been left with under :25. If Seattle scores, I feel like this would be the questionable coaching decision that would be talked about today.

I would've been screaming at the TV for Tomlin to take a timeout in that situation. Am I missing something here?
 
Bellycheat is a genius ...dont second guess him...his plan worked to perfection
 
If you win, you're a genius whose decisions are not to be questioned. If you lose, you're Bevel and Carroll. Besides, the game ended just the way the NFL wanted it to. Just kidding (I think). That play call, at that time, in that situation, makes you wonder though.
 
LeXX75 said:
Bellycheat is a genius ...dont second guess him...his plan worked to perfection
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Aye. Seattle was out coached and made a dumb call at the end of the game. They should have given it to Lynch, and called a time out if he did not make it. The Pats offense is death by a 1,000 paper cuts. Why didn't Seattle move their DB's up, and bump the inside guy within 5 yards ( Edleman ) which could have disrupted their timing? If you have a shut down corner in Richard Sherman, put him where the action is. Carroll, his OC and DC played checkers. Belicheat played chess.

I loathe both teams. My take. I enjoyed the game for what it was. The Cheaters won, the whiners lost.
 
Seattle had their chances. For a long time this will be more about the team that lost then that won.
 
You are 100% right. You call the timeout. You let them score and you try to get a TD, or at least a FG in the last 40sec to push it to overtime.

Fortunately, a rooke DB made the play look genius and Brady look like an MVP...
 
I thought they were going to let them score so they could get the ball back.
 
Why didn't Seattle move their DB's up, and bump the inside guy within 5 yards
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Because they'd have been called for P.I.
 
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It's just bizarre. Lynch could gain a yard in his sleep. WTF were they thinking? I almost feel sorry for the Seattle fans but then I remember what crybabies they are and think maybe this is just karma.
 
horrible play call and no idea why NE doesn't call timeout.
 
I just can't come up with any logical reason for not using a timeout in that situation. Belichick couldn't possibly think NE would stop them when Sea was 2nd and goal from the 1. I wanted the Seahawks to win but even I was saying to call a timeout at that time. Just odd given the circumstances.
 
It's almost like New England knew that Seattle was going to throw an interception.
 
nitsuj1225 said:
I just can't come up with any logical reason for not using a timeout in that situation. Belichick couldn't possibly think NE would stop them when Sea was 2nd and goal from the 1. I wanted the Seahawks to win but even I was saying to call a timeout at that time. Just odd given the circumstances.
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Yes, I was also thinking that Belichick was going to be the one who was second-guessed today...
 
Call it was it is, a terrible call by Pete Carroll. You have the best power back in the NFL in a position to ram it in from the 1 and nutty calls a pass in the most congested part of a short field as it is. Recipe for disaster and you could see the look of disbelief on the players faces too. Run the ball and take advantage of Belichick's not calling time out and score the TD to go up by 3. That puts the onus on Brady to get his team in FG position with less than 30 seconds just to tie the game. Stupid, stupid,stupid call Pete.
 
Carroll had the worst call in SB history. I have no idea what Belicheat was doing but it doesn't really matter because of Carroll's worst call in SB history. I don't think anyone will talk about how NE won this game as much as people will talk about CARROLL MAKING THE WORST CALL IN SB HISTORY!!
 
Belicheat ain't perfect at clock management either. I can understand why Seattle didn't call a TO so to give the Pats** less time. If you're going to pass in that situation, at least run play action. If you want to mix it up then run Lynch on first, pass on second, if that doesn't work then third and fourth are on Lynch and he can own it. Another OC overthinking it like The Bruce and being too smart by half.
 
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Belicheat ain't perfect at clock management either. I can understand why Seattle didn't call a TO so to give the Pats** less time. If you're going to pass in that situation, at least run play action. If you want to mix it up then run Lynch on first, pass on second, if that doesn't work then third and fourth are on Lynch and he can own it. Another OC overthinking it like The Bruce and being too smart by half.
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Belicheat was bad as well and I don't agree with a lot of things he does. They should have let Lynch score the play before the pick. Then you have a ton of time and your TOs. Brady just needs a FG to tie and a TD to win.

Carroll just did the only thing you can't do in that situation. You can't turn it over and you can't throw in the middle of a defense without play action. There isn't a worse call you can make in football.
 
Only theory I heard was that Belicheat wanted to keep the clock running to keep Seattle from running plays in which limited their play options. Time out would've given Seattle time to get settled. That's one theory but who knows?
 
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Steelers1356 said:
Only theory I heard was that Belicheat wanted to keep the clock running to keep Seattle from running plays in which limited their play options. Time out would've given Seattle time to get settled. That's one theory but who knows?
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That theory would hold true if the Seahawks didn't have timeouts of their own left but they had 2 left as well. Clock was not a factor for Seattle as it was for the Pats. 99/100 times a coach calls a timeout there to preserve as much time for their offense as possible.
 
By not taking a time out, it forces Seattle to throw on 2nd or 3rd down in order to get all three possible attempts to score a touchdown to win it. Seattle could not run it three times in a row. Not enough time and not enough timeouts.
 
nitsuj1225 said:
That theory would hold true if the Seahawks didn't have timeouts of their own left but they had 2 left as well. Clock was not a factor for Seattle as it was for the Pats. 99/100 times a coach calls a timeout there to preserve as much time for their offense as possible.
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Seattle used their 2nd timeout after the Lockett crazy catch with 1:06 left.
 
deljzc said:
By not taking a time out, it forces Seattle to throw on 2nd or 3rd down in order to get all three possible attempts to score a touchdown to win it. Seattle could not run it three times in a row. Not enough time and not enough timeouts.
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Yes, Seattle had 1 timeout left, thanks for the correction. Seattle runs the 2nd down play with :25 seconds left. If that is a run, another 5-6 seconds off the clock then they take their last timeout should Lynch not get in. That leaves roughly 20 seconds left to run 2 plays (3rd and 4th down). During the timeout, you call those 2 plays in the event 3rd down is unsuccessful. It's entirely possible to run 2 plays in 20 seconds without a timeout even if they are both runs. Especially if it's just 2 runs up the middle.

At the VERY least, run Lynch on 2nd down and use 3rd down as the passing down if they're going to try to get cute with it.

Point being, the clock was hardly an issue for the Seahawks and the Pats had MUCH more to lose with the time wasting than the Seahawks at the positions they were in after the Lynch run on 1st down.
 
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