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Not in Tampa, home of endless traffic jams, and so slutty that they have to do background checks for teachers to make sure they aren't strippers.
Do we have Pat penis envy?(or does POP just like the taste of Brady's balls)
Not in Tampa, home of endless traffic jams, and so slutty that they have to do background checks for teachers to make sure they aren't strippers.
Um, no, I'm not agreeing with you. The Spurs have sustained greatness for a longer period, and won more championships than your beloved Patriots, and have done so without any scrutiny of their ethical practices...along with earning the utmost respect of their peers and fans of the game alike. They're not "deserving of consideration," they're much better. What's so hard to understand?
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What you aren't taking into consideration is how much harder it is to stay on top in the NFL than the NBA. The NFL has a HARD CAP, more injuries and quicker retirements. That makes it much harder to stay on top year after year. Usually a team has a small window to truly contend, say, like, 4-5 years tops. When you take that into consideration, your argument is not so "slam dunk" as you think it is. ****, Jeffro, Duncan has been playing for how long now? Show me a non kicker who can play that long in the NFL. Show me when the NBA has a HARD cap.
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You wish, crooked toe nail, you wish.
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First of all, for all their accomplishments, New England hasn't been on the VERY top since the 2004 season, have they? NBA rosters are in constant transition. Out of the 15 players on their 2007 championship roster, only 4 remained in 2014: Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, and Matt Bonner. Even to have that many guys still together for seven seasons is extremely rare; the first three all took significantly less money to stay in San Antonio, so your "HARD" cap theory doesn't much apply to the Spurs.
****, Barney, Duncan's been playing since 1997, or just one year longer than that Peyton Manning guy. Ever heard of him?
Here is the issue that Pats fans cannot shrug off... there are a dozen stats that the Pats have mysteriously become extreme outliers in during BB's time there... its long term and extremely suspicious... in the way someone would be suspicious if a man won a dozen big time lotteries in a short period of time... the odds are incredible... and the weird part is that players and coaches leave the team and have a sudden and total drop off in the area that they were so extremely great at with the Pats....
The simplest explanation isn't that the Pats are extremely and consistently better in all these areas using methods that are legal that somehow isn't being copied around the league, even by the coaches using them, is less likely than the idea that they have a complex and systematic way of cheating, particularly at home, that isn't easy to copy elsewhere.
Pats fans will deny it, but the longer it goes on the more statisticians reveal the likelihood of hardcore cheating. It will inevitably get out. Pat fans will scream and cry about people hating on their team, but in the long run history will look back unfavorably on them. They should just be thankful that the NFL has a long standing, idiotic tradition of covering up a team's sins for the good of the game...
The simplest explanation isn't that the Pats are extremely and consistently better in all these areas using methods that are legal that somehow isn't being copied around the league, even by the coaches using them, is less likely than the idea that they have a complex and systematic way of cheating, particularly at home, that isn't easy to copy elsewhere.
Pats fans will deny it, but the longer it goes on the more statisticians reveal the likelihood of hardcore cheating. It will inevitably get out. Pat fans will scream and cry about people hating on their team, but in the long run history will look back unfavorably on them. They should just be thankful that the NFL has a long standing, idiotic tradition of covering up a team's sins for the good of the game...
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avg NFL career length: 3.3 years.
avg NBA career length: 4.8 years
Any questions, wet toot?
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And 10 years from now when NO PROOF comes out about any cheating, what will you say then? Nothing. You will pretend you never made this claim.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/14/roger-goodell-makes-44-2-million-in-last-year/
Goodell was just over Kraft's mansion for dinner. Kraft was instrumental in Goodell getting that super sweet gig. ($44 million a year is pretty damn cushy.)
Trust me, even if there is smoke, no fire will be found. And we are talking about 1 lb of PSI here. Hurry up, send in the FBI, CIA and NSA - we are talking the crime of the century here.
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I used to do Jax Beach to Ponte Vedra Beach runs all the time. That's like going from night to day..haha. I remember seeing his/hers Lamborghini's in a garage once.
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They've had **** piles of proof of cheating that a small amount got conveniently destroyed by Der Führer Goodell. What a crock of **** that is,was and will always be.
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Wait....so now your story is that they DID cheat but it doesn't matter because Goodell will cover up for his butt buddy Kraft? What about all your self righteous ranting about how the Pats are the pinnacle of sportsmanship and ethical goodness? You are all over the place. Or more likely POP is just a persona you are currently using to stir up trouble. Not seeing any consistency in your posts other than trying to stir up ****.
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Why do people forget Art Rooney II was just as influential at getting Goodell hired as Kraft was? And Rooney is just as buddy-buddy with him, even if it's not out in the open. In almost every case of public record Art Rooney has supported Goodell in the fullest. So have the Mara's and the other "old school" owners.
I think there is a big disconnect between the idea of thinking the Patriots didn't do anything abnormal or outside the rules in regards to "Deflategate" and the idea that also supports Goodell, the NFL or how they are handling this mock investigation.
I don't think the Patriots are guilty of anything wrong in regards to the football inflation level and I think the press completely put their foots in their mouth with misinformation and rumors. But I do think the NFL once again just completely bumbles the P.R. and handling of something like this. As Bill Simmons answered in his recent mail bad:
"If Adam Silver were in charge, he would have said before media day, “It will take me two weeks to figure out what happened, but if we find out that the Patriots cheated, then I’m taking their first-round pick and fining them $1 million. And I might also suspend people. I am taking this VERY seriously. Just, everyone, please be careful — I don’t want our players and coaches accused of cheating without any actual evidence. It’s wrong.” Also, there wouldn’t have been multiple leaks per week to NFL reporters whom the league is trying to butter up again after double-crossing them last summer with Rice scandal info (you know who you are). Silver’s administration doesn’t leak stuff."
That's the difference right now. NOT the Patriots. It's entirely on Goodell not doing his job correctly, letting too much misinformation leak out of his Park Avenue office to fuel the media frenzy and not enough strong decision making.
I find it hard to blame the Patriots or Kraft for the incompetence of the NFL office. Especially when our owner is just as responsible (if not more so) for Goodell's appointment to the position.
I think there is a big disconnect between the idea of thinking the Patriots didn't do anything abnormal or outside the rules in regards to "Deflategate" and the idea that also supports Goodell, the NFL or how they are handling this mock investigation.
I don't think the Patriots are guilty of anything wrong in regards to the football inflation level and I think the press completely put their foots in their mouth with misinformation and rumors. But I do think the NFL once again just completely bumbles the P.R. and handling of something like this. As Bill Simmons answered in his recent mail bad:
"If Adam Silver were in charge, he would have said before media day, “It will take me two weeks to figure out what happened, but if we find out that the Patriots cheated, then I’m taking their first-round pick and fining them $1 million. And I might also suspend people. I am taking this VERY seriously. Just, everyone, please be careful — I don’t want our players and coaches accused of cheating without any actual evidence. It’s wrong.” Also, there wouldn’t have been multiple leaks per week to NFL reporters whom the league is trying to butter up again after double-crossing them last summer with Rice scandal info (you know who you are). Silver’s administration doesn’t leak stuff."
That's the difference right now. NOT the Patriots. It's entirely on Goodell not doing his job correctly, letting too much misinformation leak out of his Park Avenue office to fuel the media frenzy and not enough strong decision making.
I find it hard to blame the Patriots or Kraft for the incompetence of the NFL office. Especially when our owner is just as responsible (if not more so) for Goodell's appointment to the position.
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The owners support of Goodell is embarrassing, but it is hard to blame them. He is helping them make more money than ever before and his direction is to continue to add to that package. Nevermind the scandals and rule changes that are making the game much less enjoyable for many.
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More cheating around the league:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...piped-in-crowd-noise-nfl-discipline-expected/
More of less important than the inflation of the footballs? Somehow I'll know how people here will answer....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...piped-in-crowd-noise-nfl-discipline-expected/
More of less important than the inflation of the footballs? Somehow I'll know how people here will answer....
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That the league should throw the book at them? Doesn't mean they shouldn't throw it at the wonderful Patriots as well. Especially since they have a long cheating track record.
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The piping in crowd noise crap should be harshly punished... A. a little known fact is crowd noise is not allowed to affect the game ...period... yep, per the NFL rulebook: "When, in the judgment of the Referee, the level of crowd noise prevents the offense from hearing its signals, he can institute a series of procedures which can result in a loss of team time outs or a five-yard penalty against the defensive team." still on the books... waiting to poke its head out at an inopportune time...
The Colts were repeatedly warned about this back in the day... its known you cant cheat like that... I say dock them multiple draft picks at a minimum
The Colts were repeatedly warned about this back in the day... its known you cant cheat like that... I say dock them multiple draft picks at a minimum
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It would be a dick move, but I can definitely see a coach pulling this one out in a huge (Championship) game after a critical penalty due to crowd noise.
LOL, you consider yourself Freud.
They should be punished. They broke a rule. Is this their first, 2nd, 3rd offense? That should determine how much.
In the *Patriots case, this is the latest of many transgressions, and as such, the penalty should be steep.
Just heard Sal Palantonio say on the radio..."expect that if the league finds a shred of evidence that the *Patriots were responsible for the deflated balls that the punishment will be very, VERY severe."
As well it should be.