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Why is there no local media to pull Tomlin's chump card?

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The title pretty much explains it all.

The local media is SAWFT on Tomlin.

Like falling into a dumpster full of cotton balls soft.

Like I just want ONE reporter to shoot back at Tomlin the next time he gives the tired line of "I take responsibility for this, or it starts with me" ..........."so coach, except for empty platitudes and clichés, what are your plans to be a better coach? And at what time do you think you are the major problem that needs fixed?" .

I would have a super, completely ****, crush on the reporter who stuck it to Tomlin like that.

To bad local media is too busy throwing softballs to help with damage control.

Need Mark Madden in a post game interview.
 
At least DK is calling for his head if we miss the playoffs.

Would really love for a reporter to just throw it in Tomlin's face in a after game press conference.
 
At least DK is calling for his head if we miss the playoffs.

Would really love for a reporter to just throw it in Tomlin's face in a after game press conference.

Yep, saw that on KDKA last night, about time someone other than Mark Madden says it.
 
They're all ******* and will not ask Tomlin tough questions. They would rather be his buddy.
 
They're all ******* and will not ask Tomlin tough questions. They would rather be his buddy.

Guys, guys, guys...............It has nothing to do with reporters "being soft" or wanting to be his buddy. It has 100% to do with the Rooneys controlling the local media, with carrots and switches.

Bottom line: If a reporter asks questions the Rooneys don't like, he will lose certain "perks" or be blackballed and be fired, all together.

THAT is the reason the Pgh media asks no legit, pertinent questions. IS that Huck Finn and backwoods bull ****? Yup, sure it is. But that is the way things are done in Pgh.

Real questions that should be asked, if not for the Rooneys being babies about allowing real questions.

"Coach, Ben now says the team has discipline and accountability issues. Why would he say that? Who should be addressing those areas?"

"Coach, You say when you got for 2 points rather than kicking the extra point, and it doesn't seem to be logical, you say you 'go with your gut' on those decisions. Isn't that the same thing as admitting you don't use logic when making such decisions, and isn't that another way of saying you don't actually apply thought to those decisions?"

"Coach, why is your record so awful against losing teams?"
 
I dunno but Ben sounds like he is losing patience with everybody.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ined-steelers/ar-AAkgkU2?li=BBnba9I&ocid=iehp
Roethlisberger is Tomlins meal ticket and I think everybody knows it too.

This team buys into their own hype and they can't handle it. When they were healthy and had all hands on deck for the offense, things looked good. However, some injuries and some guys underperforming and all of a sudden things aren't running so smoothly. The defense has the same issues and the team continues to lose to bad teams on the road. Ben looked ticked when making those comments and I don't blame him. Same with Harrison and Heyward.
 
This team buys into their own hype and they can't handle it. When they were healthy and had all hands on deck for the offense, things looked good. However, some injuries and some guys underperforming and all of a sudden things aren't running so smoothly. The defense has the same issues and the team continues to lose to bad teams on the road. Ben looked ticked when making those comments and I don't blame him. Same with Harrison and Heyward.

Tomlin's warts and foibles are now exposed. He inherited a team full of strong veteran leadership; as those players retired, a leadership void began to show.

Tomlin is like the parent who worries more about being buddie with his kids than being a parent. And we are seeing the end results. Ben is pissed. He is seeing his legacy and # of rings starting to fade. But, at least Tomlin is buddies with his players and wears Cool Shades.
 
Guys, guys, guys...............It has nothing to do with reporters "being soft" or wanting to be his buddy. It has 100% to do with the Rooneys controlling the local media, with carrots and switches.

Bottom line: If a reporter asks questions the Rooneys don't like, he will lose certain "perks" or be blackballed and be fired, all together.

THAT is the reason the Pgh media asks no legit, pertinent questions. IS that Huck Finn and backwoods bull ****? Yup, sure it is. But that is the way things are done in Pgh.

Real questions that should be asked, if not for the Rooneys being babies about allowing real questions.

This is such a load of hogwash....do you even live in Pittsburgh? Ever since Chuck roamed the sidelines, he loathed the media and had a very, very small inner circle with them. If it wasn't for Myron Cope, there may have hardly been any information given on or off record.

Cowher couldn't stand the beat writers had an arms reach distance from the media, and basically did what he could minimally do after the press put out he and his wife were having problems.

If anything the Rooneys have less impact than most all the other teams. Unlike the team you praise often and their owner who has a large stake in the northeastern US media, or Jerry Jones, or San Francisco after DeBartolo left.

The three main writers in Pittsburgh have been here since Chuck and I remember a whole lot of hot seat proclamations after Cowher kept losing Conference Championships and have consecutive losing records.

It's been no different with Tomlin.

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This is such a load of hogwash....do you even live in Pittsburgh? Ever since Chuck roamed the sidelines, he loathed the media and had a very, very small inner circle with them. If it wasn't for Myron Cope, there may have hardly been any information given on or off record.

Cowher couldn't stand the beat writers had an arms reach distance from the media, and basically did what he could minimally do after the press put out he and his wife were having problems.

If anything the Rooneys have less impact than most all the other teams. Unlike the team you praise often and their owner who has a large stake in the northeastern US media, or Jerry Jones, or San Francisco after DeBartolo left.

The three main writers in Pittsburgh have been here since Chuck and I remember a whole lot of hot seat proclamations after Cowher kept losing Conference Championships and have consecutive losing records.

It's been no different with Tomlin.

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So you honestly believe the media in Pittsburgh isn't easy on shades?


Do the Rooney's have dirt on you or something?
 
Maybe you should read this.. maybe DK came up with this for you

A few seconds before noon today, Mike Tomlin will sit down at his press conference table, take a cue from the TV folks, lean into the microphone and speak the same two words he always does: “Good afternoon.”

It’s at this point that the angry citizens expect the two dozen reporters to rise up in unison and storm the table with pitchforks.

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And the citizens never get that.

And they get all the angrier.

So in lieu of the standard football talk to open this week’s Takes, let me instead offer some background into a professional sports team’s press conference, this based on a lifetime spent at these things:


1. Reporters aren’t fans of the teams/people they cover.

If you can’t get beyond this one, we can’t have much of a discussion. This is how it’s been for 250 years of American journalism, and sports aren’t an exception. If a reporter is a fan, he or she is removed from that beat. And if that policy isn’t in place somewhere, then that outlet is not to be taken seriously.

Our passion is for our work, not for the teams/people we cover.

2. We aren’t happy after wins or angry after losses.

Thus, questioning won’t reflect the emotions that a fan experiences. At all. On the night the Steelers lost that playoff game in Denver and grown men were in tears, people I like and admire, my focus was on the column I had to write. On the night the Penguins raised the Stanley Cup in San Jose and grown men shed different kinds of tears, people I like and admire, my focus was on the column I had to write.

On my long flight to Rio for the Olympics, I watched a full video of Game 6. As I’d remark to my wife later, it felt like watching it for the first time. All I thought about through that game and all the way to sunrise when I’d finally finished writing was about the job at hand. There’s a switch that gets flipped.

And if you put yourself in this position, you might get it: If the Penguins win a championship and I write a column that falls woefully short, I lose big-time. The site loses big-time. The pressure on me that night wasn’t to see the Penguins beat the Sharks. It was to do good work.

So again, we don’t go into these press conferences all emotional. We have an idea of what our specific coverage will be about. And when we’re asking questions, we’re asking them as they relate to our specific coverage.

I asked Tomlin the first question of his press conference Sunday at Heinz Field. I wanted to hear if he felt the defense was progressing, as that was going to make up a big portion of my column. I didn’t ask it to finger-wag. I didn’t ask it to make him uncomfortable. None of that has anything to do with my job. I asked it because I felt his response to that topic could make the column more insightful for the readers.

3. No one grades journalism by press conference performance.

No editor in this history of history has ever asked a possible reporting hire, ‘Yeah, but how do you do in press conferences? Do you ask the tough questions?‘

Because it’s got nothing to do with the job. If the subject matter is genuinely tough, and that’s what your coverage will be, then hell yes, you ask whatever question you want, regardless of consequence. I’ve asked a ton of them and heard all kinds of attaboys when I do, but it’s never, ever been the goal. It’s just that the subject matter lined up. You don’t go into it thinking, ‘Man, I could really be a big hero in here if I asked the tough question and everyone sings my praises on Twitter.’

Who cares?

The objective is to produce the best possible content, not to make a star of yourself.

4. There’s professional decorum involved.

Yeah, believe it or not, it’s our workplace. These stadiums and press boxes, that’s where we do our jobs.

You don’t make a complete fool of yourself at your job and get away with it. Ideally, neither do we. There’s a proper way to behave, and that’s policed on our end, not by the teams and players we cover.

Ask whatever question on whatever topic, but don’t stand up wagging a foam finger while wearing a Jerome Bettis school bus on your head and shout out, ‘WHY CAN’T YOU GUYS BE ACCOUNTABLE ‘N AT? HAVE YOU LOOKED IN THE MIRROR? ISN’T IT TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO GO?‘

That’s no more appropriate than the reverse, meaning giggling and fawning over the subject matter when things are going well.

And yes, there are exceptions at both ends, as there are in any professional workplace. But the exceptions don’t define the norms, and trust me, what I’m describing to you here are very much the norms. When someone makes a fool of themselves in these settings, the reporters want that person gone infinitely more than the team does, because it embarrasses all of us.

5. You won’t believe any of this.

I know when I’m slamming a forehead against a wall, and this is one of those times. Journalism is a highly unusual profession. There’s a reason we don’t ever leave these jobs to do something else, and it’s because we aren’t made for anything else. Anyone who’s ever done this at any level knows what I’m talking about, just as they know of the exasperation in trying to explain it even to their own family members.
 
All media from any franchise are at some point are easy on the coach, GM, owners; but there are plenty of times there has been heat on the Rooney's. Just the making of Heinz field was warfare in the papers. Ticket holders getting ripped off from the PSL process. Stadium Authority problems with who is paying for what. The coaches even more so. The writer who shall not be named always had a needling for Cowher. Don't know why. But he and others Bouchette included, had questions with how Kordell was handled, change in the offensive scheme from Bettis to Zereoue. Keeping Coach LeBeau longer than they needed to, etc...during those lean years. Madden was no exception, but that was his calling card to getting listeners. He could have cared less for the Steelers and pro football, he was/ or still is a Pens/hockey guy.

If the team was winning there are still grumbling from some, it sells subscriptions.


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Well said Steelerfan81. And that sir is why folks like Stephen A Smith are NOT journalists or beat writers but just ugly blow hards that chum the waters for sharks (angry and disgruntled fans). It is our job as the disgruntled fans to let them have it when they underachieve, and judging from the posts on this great board we certainly do let them have it when things are going bad as the Steeler Nation Lynch mob was in full effect after the latest disappointing loss. It is the beat writers jobs to remain impartial and bring us news and updates.
 
I am starting to wonder that in the 21st century NFL, there is a strong argument to be made that NO COACH should be in the same location for more than 10 years.

Yes, Belichick is the exception to this rule but he is arguably 1 in a 100. A special case with very special circumstances.

But 10 years seems to be the time-frame when most great coaches get the most out of their players in the "modern era". This isn't just a knock on Tomlin. Coughlin struggled in New York. Sean Payton is struggling to meet expectations in New Orleans. Mike McCarty in Green Bay. Andy Reid hit a wall in Philly. Del Rio hit a wall in Jacksonville (after some success). Even Harbaugh in Baltimore isn't quite the magician he was during his first 6-8 seasons.

I'm not saying these are all bad coaches, but maybe there is something that happens to the locker room, the building, the coach/GM relationship, whatever that just causes the tracks to derail after about a decade on the job in one place.

Hell, Tomlin might rejuvenate his career in a different location. Look at how Del Rio and Andy Reid are doing in new spots. Even Pete Carroll is on his 2nd gig (although he might be coming to an decade long wall soon). Even some great OLD coaches only seemed to last about 10 years. Noll's run was about a decade. So was Maddens. And Gibbs. And Vermiel. And Walsh. And Parcells.

I mean after 10 years they were okay coaches. They had some success. But really GREAT success? Eh.... And when you talk about the REALLY old-school guys like Shula and Landry, they are from a different era really (both coached extensively in the 1950's).

I guess my point is maybe a decade for a coach in one location should be the limit. And historically, you are probably just as successful making a change vs. staying with the so-called "Hall-of-Fame Coach" past the 10-year mark.
 
Tomlin is not a hall of fame coach unless he goes into the football media, where I actually think he'd do a good job.

Somehow Marvin Lewis has been employed as a head coach since 2003!
 
Tomlin is not a hall of fame coach unless he goes into the football media, where I actually think he'd do a good job.

Somehow Marvin Lewis has been employed as a head coach since 2003!

I will bet you money right now Tomlin gets into the hall-of-fame. His career isn't CLOSE to being done. His statistics are extremely impressive vs. his contemporaries.

I don't like him. I think his time here is done. But he could almost hobble through 6-10 to 11-5 seasons for the next decade and be guaranteed a spot in the hall-of-fame.

The list of "good coaches" just isn't a big as you think it is. And the Hall-of-Fame is already talking about letting more coaches (and assistant coaches) into the hall.
 
I will bet you money right now Tomlin gets into the hall-of-fame. His career isn't CLOSE to being done. His statistics are extremely impressive vs. his contemporaries.

I don't like him. I think his time here is done. But he could almost hobble through 6-10 to 11-5 seasons for the next decade and be guaranteed a spot in the hall-of-fame.

The list of "good coaches" just isn't a big as you think it is. And the Hall-of-Fame is already talking about letting more coaches (and assistant coaches) into the hall.

Hall of fame coaches rarely get fired. They get put to pasture or retire on their own terms.

If Tomlin is let go / fired by the Steelers at his age and doesn't take a media job...I'll take that bet. Put on an average team, he's a goner in 4 years.

Cowher who has won 60+ more games has a better playoff record and is popular with the media is not likely to make the hall of fame.

I would all say Mike Holmgren is ahead of him too.


PS: Indulge me, what could the Steelers get in a trade for Tomlin? I mean if he's a hall of fame coach at his age, you'd figure he's worth soemthing.
 
I've watched the media be very biased and in attack dog mode for years when it comes to politics. So that above it all stuff is bs when it comes to them.
 
Hall of fame coaches rarely get fired. They get put to pasture or retire on their own terms.

If Tomlin is let go / fired by the Steelers at his age and doesn't take a media job...I'll take that bet. Put on an average team, he's a goner in 4 years.

Cowher who has won 60+ more games has a better playoff record and is popular with the media is not likely to make the hall of fame.

I would all say Mike Holmgren is ahead of him too.


PS: Indulge me, what could the Steelers get in a trade for Tomlin? I mean if he's a hall of fame coach at his age, you'd figure he's worth soemthing.

There would be some owners/GM's out there that buy into the fake BS about how great MT is. Just look at the sports talking heads: so many of them act as if MT is like the 2nd best coach out there (not better than Hoodie). They rave about him on First Take, Mike & Mike and Undisputed, with Skip and Shannon. They were saying they didn't think a Mike Tomlin-coached team could lose 4 in a row. Oops, like **** it can't.
 
I will bet you money right now Tomlin gets into the hall-of-fame. His career isn't CLOSE to being done. His statistics are extremely impressive vs. his contemporaries.

I don't like him. I think his time here is done. But he could almost hobble through 6-10 to 11-5 seasons for the next decade and be guaranteed a spot in the hall-of-fame.

The list of "good coaches" just isn't a big as you think it is. And the Hall-of-Fame is already talking about letting more coaches (and assistant coaches) into the hall.

He has 1 SB win and 1 other appearance. The way he is going right now, he will not post a winning record for 3 out of the past 5 seasons. Have him as head coach with a team without a franchise QB or stability as the Steelers and he won't do jack ****. Had he not inherited the team he did, he'd not even have one ring. He is unlikely to walk into another quality situation as he did in Pgh. What did he inherit in Pgh? A roster jam packed with future Hall of Famers and Pro Bowl players.

Ben
Bettis
Parker
Ward
Miller
Harrison
Farrior
Ike
Troy
Keisel
Aaron Smith
Hampton
Clark
Gay
Woodley
Faneca
Holmes
Townsend

This team doesn't believe in him. After a while of all words and no actions, they stop listening.
 
he leaves here for any reason fired/retired/walks away.. he is probably the hot commodity in the entire nfl the next day. I don't get it
 
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