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Well, Aaron Donald just broke the bank

Rams must have all kind of money to spend. Last month they extended Gurley's contract as well.
 
Rams have one of the top 3-5 richest owners. Steelers have one of the bottom 10 poorest owners. Of course they don't even blink at throwing guaranteed money into escrow
 
swal75 said:
Rams have one of the top 3-5 richest owners. Steelers have one of the bottom 10 poorest owners. Of course they don't even blink at throwing guaranteed money into escrow
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YOU bet but that will eventually catch up to them as there is ONLY so much salary cap. Our owners do pretty good being competitive year in and year out, how about those rams......???




Salute the nation
 
swal75 said:
Rams have one of the top 3-5 richest owners. Steelers have one of the bottom 10 poorest owners. Of course they don't even blink at throwing guaranteed money into escrow
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Owners net worth is irrelevant with the salary caps, and much of that wealth the richest owners have comes from other businesses. The Steelers make plenty of money, around 400 million in annual revenue, 13th over all out of 32 teams.
 
Drink IRON City said:
YOU bet but that will eventually catch up to them as there is ONLY so much salary cap. Our owners do pretty good being competitive year in and year out, how about those rams......???




Salute the nation
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Not if the salary cap keeps increasing at the rate that it has. There's plenty of room for leeway every year
 
Steelers1356 said:
Owners net worth is irrelevant with the salary caps, and much of that wealth the richest owners have comes from other businesses. The Steelers make plenty of money, around 400 million in annual revenue, 13th over all out of 32 teams.
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When these contracts have full guarantees they are actually putting money into escrow to cover these expenses. You better believe that a super rich owner makes a difference in cases like these where he can front money. Steelers only guarantee signing bonuses basically.
 
swal75 said:
Rams have one of the top 3-5 richest owners. Steelers have one of the bottom 10 poorest owners. Of course they don't even blink at throwing guaranteed money into escrow
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You lost me. Are you sayin' there's no more salary cap ?

RULE OF 51 – At this time of the offseason, a team’s Salary Cap is determined by the “Rule of 51.” The Rule of 51 is in effect because team rosters now total 90 players (or more if some players are already on Injured Reserve) and it would be impossible to fit all 90+ players under the Cap. As such, the league’s CBA dictates that only the highest 51 Salary Cap numbers (and all bonus prorations for players outside of the top 51 and all dead money from players released) counts against the Cap at this time. This is the Rule of 51. RSR’s Salary Cap table illustrates how the Rule of 51 operates.

That rule is only good for one more day. Rich owner or not.
 
Ravens spent a lotta $$ on Fluke-o ... how'd that work out? Stillers do a pretty good job of keepin' everyone happy and pretty financially secure, hence the competitiveness every year.
 
SteelChip said:
You lost me. Are you sayin' there's no more salary cap ?

RULE OF 51 – At this time of the offseason, a team’s Salary Cap is determined by the “Rule of 51.” The Rule of 51 is in effect because team rosters now total 90 players (or more if some players are already on Injured Reserve) and it would be impossible to fit all 90+ players under the Cap. As such, the league’s CBA dictates that only the highest 51 Salary Cap numbers (and all bonus prorations for players outside of the top 51 and all dead money from players released) counts against the Cap at this time. This is the Rule of 51. RSR’s Salary Cap table illustrates how the Rule of 51 operates.

That rule is only good for one more day. Rich owner or not.
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These contracts with huge guarantees for amounts in the future, the owners are ponying up large amount of money that gets put into escrow due to antiquated funding rules.
 
Sorry I didn't mean to hit enter. The salary cap applies the same to every team. But when a guy like Stan kroenke is worth 8 billion dollars he has a lot of extra money that can find these escrow payments. Certain teams structure contracts in different ways. The Steelers tend to give large signing bonuses with very few guarantees after the first year. The Jaguars for example give very large roster bonuses and high salaries because salary money is paid weekly throughout the course of the season. The Raiders are pretty similar to the Jaguars as well. It's easier to make payroll when you have money coming in from the gate and stuff.

The salary cap matters but it's going to continue to increase by 5 to 7% every year so it may seem like Donald is getting a fuckton but it'll be offset by future cap increases.
 
swal75 said:
These contracts with huge guarantees for amounts in the future, the owners are ponying up large amount of money that gets put into escrow due to antiquated funding rules.
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Steelers are worth around 2.5 billion. 16th in the league, I’m sure they could bank future funds
 
As long as we're dumb enough to pony up $160 for a jersey, $200 for a game ticket, $400 for Sunday ticket, etc. the owners and players will continue to rack up the bank.
 
swal75 said:
Rams have one of the top 3-5 richest owners. Steelers have one of the least 10 poorest owners. Of course they don't even blink at throwing guaranteed money into escrow
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Steelers have one of the least uber-wealthy owners. There, now it reads more correctly.
 
One of the few great things left about NFL football is the salary cap and you just can't buy a championship by throwing money around. You have to build that **** with men who actually give a **** about winning one. What real incentive do guys have when they're going to win no matter what.
 
I wanted the Steelers to draft Donald. He was taken before they picked but they wouldn't have drafted him anyway.
 
Donald is one of the best college football players I've ever seen and I'm not surprised he continued his high level of play in the NFL. Never a problem when the best players get paid the most. Probably won't be long before a much less talented player is paid more than Donald because he is "next up" for a contract.
 
swal75 said:
Sorry I didn't mean to hit enter. The salary cap applies the same to every team. But when a guy like Stan kroenke is worth 8 billion dollars he has a lot of extra money that can find these escrow payments. Certain teams structure contracts in different ways. The Steelers tend to give large signing bonuses with very few guarantees after the first year. The Jaguars for example give very large roster bonuses and high salaries because salary money is paid weekly throughout the course of the season. The Raiders are pretty similar to the Jaguars as well. It's easier to make payroll when you have money coming in from the gate and stuff.

The salary cap matters but it's going to continue to increase by 5 to 7% every year so it may seem like Donald is getting a fuckton but it'll be offset by future cap increases.
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I'm not following your argument. Contracts are front loaded, back loaded or spread out with guaranteed money. It all comes down to a pay him now or pay him later scenario. Salary cap increases are the same league wide so there is no advantage. Where you get that rich owners have an advantage only comes into play when owners like Kraft slip their prize QB stock shares and exclusive rights contracts. Pretty hard to pin that kinda **** down but all owners don't do that stuff cause it comes out of their pocket not the club.

With the negotiated revenue sharing in the current contract for ticket sales, I think it would be hard to point to any advantaged team ...player salary wise at least.... and other than stadium revenues that is.but that doesn't go against the cap
 
His argument is extremely wealthy owners can put the value of a players contract in escrow. That means they gain interest on the value of the contract while they are paying it out. Steelers can't do that. Multibillionaires can.

It has nothing to do with the salary cap, this is hard dollar spending.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
Donald is one of the best college football players I've ever seen and I'm not surprised he continued his high level of play in the NFL. Never a problem when the best players get paid the most. Probably won't be long before a much less talented player is paid more than Donald because he is "next up" for a contract.
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Well I wouldn't say "less talented", but Mack just signed an extension with the Bears for 141m and 90 guaranteed...
 
insaniti said:
Well I wouldn't say "less talented", but Mack just signed an extension with the Bears for 141m and 90 guaranteed...
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Mack is about the only guy in the league who you can't argue with a contract more than Donald right now.
 
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