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Top 5 steelers per position, the WR's

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This one will be tough as the Steelers have had a ton of talent. Pick the best five since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.


1. Stallworth
2. Brown
3. Ward
4. Swann
5. Lipps
 
Coach said:
This one will be tough as the Steelers have had a ton of talent. Pick the best five since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.


1. Stallworth
2. Brown
3. Ward
4. Swann
5. Lipps
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Coach you have a pretty impressive list there. I'm glad to see Louis Lipps on there as I think he is a truly forgotten great receiver of the STEELERS. He provided offense when there just wasn't much there. Thank You





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Clete said:
Stallworth
Brown
Swann
Lipps
Ward
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Lipps over Ward? While Lipps played with some below average QB's, he just wasn't healthy or productive enough to rank over Ward's career body of work.

Having said that, if Lipps went to the 49ers or Dolphins in the 1980's, he might have been in the hall of fame.
 
Coach said:
This one will be tough as the Steelers have had a ton of talent. Pick the best five since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.


1. Stallworth
2. Brown
3. Ward
4. Swann
5. Lipps
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I don't know why everyone thinks Stallworth was ever as good, or better than AB. I know he played in a different, less-passing era, but JS NEVER broached being considered the very best WR in any of his seasons; AB has.

JS was good for many years, but never AB good.

1. AB
2. Ward
3. Stallworth
4. Lipps
5. Swann

Honorable mentions: Thigpen, Charles Johnson, Holmes, Plex, Weegie Thompson, Ernie Mills, Hastings.
 
POP said:
I don't know why everyone thinks Stallworth was ever as good, or better than AB. I know he played in a different, less-passing era, but JS NEVER broached being considered the very best WR in any of his seasons; AB has.

JS was good for many years, but never AB good.

1. AB
2. Ward
3. Stallworth
4. Lipps
5. Swann

Honorable mentions: Thigpen, Charles Johnson, Holmes, Plex, Weegie Thompson, Ernie Mills, Hastings.
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Stallworth was one of the NFL's first tall receivers ( 6'2" tall ) with deep speed. He blocked ton and made big plays in the postseason.

In the postseason, Stallworth scored 12 times, had over 1,000 yards, and averaged 18.5 yards per catch.

His career stats are 537 catches, 16.2 yards per catch and 74 TD's

Keep in mind he missed out on a strike year in 1983 and the NFL didn't play 16 games a season until 1978. The passing rules back then had tackles line up at the LOS, not a 1/2 yard behind as they do today and allowed DB's to mug them.

I think Brown is great, but he needs a few more seasons to pass Stallworth.
 
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Stallworth was one of the NFL's first tall receivers ( 6'2" tall ) with deep speed. He blocked ton and made big plays in the postseason.

In the postseason, Stallworth scored 12 times, had over 1,000 yards, and averaged 18.5 yards per catch.

His career stats are 537 catches, 16.2 yards per catch and 74 TD's

Keep in mind he missed out on a strike year in 1983 and the NFL didn't play 16 games a season until 1978. The passing rules back then had tackles line up at the LOS, not a 1/2 yard behind as they do today and allowed DB's to mug them.

I think Brown is great, but he needs a few more seasons to pass Stallworth.
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Quick, name a WR better than AB is right now? There are none.

Name any WRs better than JS in his day.

Charlie Joiner
Art Monk
Steve Largent
Dew Hill
Harold Carmichael
Cliff Branch
Irving Fryar

And with the press coverage, go ahead and try that vs. AB, and he will just blow by you.
 
1: Brown-Dynamic, absolute threat
2: Ward- Complete football player, blocker, went to gritty areas on the field
3: Stallworth-Big, fast, could catch anything his way
4: Swann- Great hands, acrobatic
5: Lipps- From what this board says about him, and what my dad has said, the guy was always open and one of the Steelers playmakers of the 80's
 
The reason why I can't put Lipps on my list, is although he was great. He only had a few good years. Holmes also had a few good years, and one of those good years helped to earn our 6th ring. I will always appreciate Holmes for that playoff run. It was Epic for any WR.
 
Holmes was a great receiver but only with Ben. He wasn't nearly as prodigious when he left to go to the Jets. I do feel that he played very well for the Steelers and certainly he put together one of the greatest playoff runs and perhaps the most timely DRIVE a receiver has ever had in a critical series in a critical game.

That said... shrug.

You're going to think this is weird, but I'm going to give Ward the top spot for 2 reasons.

A) He was a top notch competitor, logging many tough catches, but also MENTORING younger players. In fact, even super Steeler bust Troy Edwards stated that Ward helped him a TON which I think is amazing given the fact that Edwards, Like Holmes was essentially brought in to replace Ward.

B) I don't know HOW many decades you'd have to go back in order to find WR that blocked as well as Ward. Every snap the defense had to watch Hines for one reason or another. That gives him top spot.

1) Hines Ward
2) Antonio Brown
3) John Stallworth
4) Lynn Swann
5) Stonio Holmes. (Just never gets old.)

6) Special Mention Dwight 'Hands of' Stone. (Just havin' fun with that.)
 
1. Brown
2. Stallworth
3. Ward
4. Swann
5. Lipps

SM: Bryant...as good as it gets...cant get off the weeds.
 
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Stone
Bryant



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Hard decisions but for me

1 Brown, in the direction he is heading just remarkable.
2 Ward very productive in the playoffs and a SB MVP to boot. And hit like a truck....
3 Stallworth, more productive than Swann so he gets the nod.
4 Swann, my favorite WR growing up, was at his best against the best.
5 Plaxico Burress - Won't be a fan favorite, and he could have been much more if he wasn't such a douche-nozzle. But he had mad skills.

Honorable mention. Louis Lipps, Martavis Bryant, and Santonio Holmes.
 
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wig said:
Holmes was a great receiver but only with Ben. He wasn't nearly as prodigious when he left to go to the Jets. I do feel that he played very well for the Steelers and certainly he put together one of the greatest playoff runs and perhaps the most timely DRIVE a receiver has ever had in a critical series in a critical game.

That said... shrug.

You're going to think this is weird, but I'm going to give Ward the top spot for 2 reasons.

A) He was a top notch competitor, logging many tough catches, but also MENTORING younger players. In fact, even super Steeler bust Troy Edwards stated that Ward helped him a TON which I think is amazing given the fact that Edwards, Like Holmes was essentially brought in to replace Ward.

B) I don't know HOW many decades you'd have to go back in order to find WR that blocked as well as Ward. Every snap the defense had to watch Hines for one reason or another. That gives him top spot.

1) Hines Ward
2) Antonio Brown
3) John Stallworth
4) Lynn Swann
5) Stonio Holmes. (Just never gets old.)

6) Special Mention Dwight 'Hands of' Stone. (Just havin' fun with that.)
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To be fair, even the great AB isn't nearly as potent without Ben tossing him the rock. His fall off was immense.
 
POP said:
Quick, name a WR better than AB is right now? There are none.

Name any WRs better than JS in his day.

Charlie Joiner
Art Monk
Steve Largent
Dew Hill
Harold Carmichael
Cliff Branch
Irving Fryar

And with the press coverage, go ahead and try that vs. AB, and he will just blow by you.
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None of those guys was better than Stallworth. Your knowledge of the game is laughable at best, moron
 
Coach said:
Lipps over Ward? While Lipps played with some below average QB's, he just wasn't healthy or productive enough to rank over Ward's career body of work.

Having said that, if Lipps went to the 49ers or Dolphins in the 1980's, he might have been in the hall of fame.
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If Lipps played with the Steelers in Ward;s era he would have been unstoppable. Put Ward in his prime against Stallwprth, Swann, Lipps, he never sees the field. They were all better , faster and tough as ward. Swann took a beating Ward could not have held up against.
 
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POP said:
Quick, name a WR better than AB is right now? There are none.

Name any WRs better than JS in his day.

Charlie Joiner
Art Monk
Steve Largent
Dew Hill
Harold Carmichael
Cliff Branch
Irving Fryar

And with the press coverage, go ahead and try that vs. AB, and he will just blow by you.
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Fryar can barely be considered a contemporarie of Stall. Fryar only played a couple of years at the same time as Stall (84-87). Monk and Fryar never had play against defenses that could mug you until the ball was in the air. You could make an argument for Monk, Branch or Largent being a better receiver. Joiner maybe i guess, but how do you rate FrYar or Carmichael as as better? Not sure who Dew Hill is . . .maybe he played in the world league? No, seriously, Drew Hill was a better receiver than John Stallworth? You must be high.
 
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steelerscotty said:
Fryar can barely be considered a contemporarie of Stall. Fryar only played a couple of years at the same time as Stall (84-87). Monk and Fryar never had play against defenses that could mug you until the ball was in the air. You could make an argument for Monk, Branch or Largent being a better receiver. Joiner maybe i guess, but how do you rate FrYar or Carmichael as as better? Not sure who Dew Hill is . . .maybe he played in the world league? No, seriously, Drew Hill was a better receiver than John Stallworth? You must be high.
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Pop doesn't appear to know his football. It hasn't came to the level of his trolling yet.
 
POP said:
Quick, name a WR better than AB is right now? There are none.

Name any WRs better than JS in his day.

Charlie Joiner
Art Monk
Steve Largent
Dew Hill
Harold Carmichael
Cliff Branch
Irving Fryar

And with the press coverage, go ahead and try that vs. AB, and he will just blow by you.
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Oh, I think AB is among the best 2-3 WR's in the NFL ( Beckham and J. Jones are amazing too ). I just think Brown as great as he needs a few more seasons fo pass Stallworth. That's what I said. He;ll likely do it. When Ben went out, Brown's game took a nose dive, but Byrant based on ability, size, and speed alone still hauled in a pass from Landry for a big play.


The rules and amount of passing attempts in Stallworth's time can not compare to Brown's. If Brown played in the 70's, I guarantee you he would be as productive catching the football.

As for that list of players you posted , I think Stallworth is better than a few of the mentioned names, and as noted most played post-1978 when the rules changed to open up the passing game.
 
I'll post a new position and the end of today if possible. Keep the WR vote coming and look for a fan vote ranking for the offense by the end of June.
 
1. Hines - still the best overall IMHO
2. Brown - closing in on #1 quickly, barring injury, will go down as one of the greatest receivers ever, period
3. Stallworth
4. Swann
5. Yancey Thigpen - in his prime, was very good
 
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