Top 5 steelers per position, the Offensive Tackles.

[Coach]

Top 5 steelers per position, the Offensive Tackles.

Now this one will be hard. For whatever reason the Steelers have never had a hall of fame Offensive Tackle since the AFL-NFL merger.

For my money John Kolb, who was perhaps the strongest player in the NFL ( he came in second in the world's strongest man ) is very underrated at left Tackle.

1 ) Kolb - Super strong, yet quick. Gave up few sacks.
2 ) Ilkin - I think he's a bit overrated
3 ) Gilbert On the rise. I think he's our best OL player today.
4 )Jackson . Solid as they come at left tackle.
5 ) Starks. A huge man. Good vs the pass or the run.
** I reserve the right to edit this list. **

 

[FordFairLane]

#1 Kolb
#2 Ilkin
#3 Wayne Gandy
#4 Marvel Smith
#5 Leon Searcy

 

[Drink IRON City]

Coach, Marvel Smith isn't on your list and I think maybe Gilbert needs bumped with inserting smith. Gilbert hasn't got enough years to prove that caliber. He started out weak but is now maturing into the spot quite well. A couple more years and he will be solidifiede in the top five list.



Salute the nation

 

[Clete]

John Jackson is better than Gilbert, Smith and Starks

 

[SteelerFan448]

Kolb, Ilkin, Jackson, Smith, Searcy, Gandy all need to be under consideration. Gilbert is a few good seasons away and Starks has no business being in the top 5.

 

[bmoritz]

I will never understand the love affair with Marvel Smith. Were we watching different games during his career? He was a turnstile. Starks, when healthy, was MUCH better. Jackson needs to be on the list.

 

[Coach]

I will never understand the love affair with Marvel Smith. Were we watching different games during his career? He was a turnstile. Starks, when healthy, was MUCH better. Jackson needs to be on the list.

Marvel was just okay. He gave up too many sacks, and was viewed as a savior because the Steelers had terrible people staring before him, I agree Jackson needs to be on the list. Revising...

 

[Coach]

Kolb, Ilkin, Jackson, Smith, Searcy, Gandy all need to be under consideration. Gilbert is a few good seasons away and Starks has no business being in the top 5.

Gandy and Searcy were not Steelers for long.

 

[POP]

Kolb, Ilkin, Jackson, Smith, Searcy, Gandy all need to be under consideration. Gilbert is a few good seasons away and Starks has no business being in the top 5.

Jackson and Marvel were top shelf and better than the rest. Kolb may have been juicing it, playing against a lot of opponents who were not juicing.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

Jackson and Marvel were top shelf and better than the rest. Kolb may have been juicing it, playing against a lot of opponents who were not juicing.

if this is the criteria , please remember when center, and Guard come up.!

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

What about Larry Brown. No mention of him.

 

[ExUSAF]

Larry Brown

What about Larry Brown. No mention of him.

Maybe it's because he was a converted Tight End but I thought Brown dominated at the RT position.

 

[steelerscotty]

Kolb
Tunch
Jackson
Starks
could put one of about 5 guys at #5.

 

[POP]

I will never understand the love affair with Marvel Smith. Were we watching different games during his career? He was a turnstile. Starks, when healthy, was MUCH better. Jackson needs to be on the list.

IDK, I remember the competition (Bengals?) even say that Smith's backup was good, but not an elite LT like Smith was. Jackson was considered one of the top LT of his day.

 

[steelerscotty]

Jackson and Marvel were top shelf and better than the rest. Kolb may have been juicing it, playing against a lot of opponents who were not juicing.

Here you go again, regurgitating crap from steeler-haters like che*triot fans, etc. 1st, steroids were not illegal nor were they a banned substance. Secondly, to say they played "against a lot of opponents who were not juicing" is purely speculation. There have been many non-steelers documented to have used them, including Lyle Alzado and Jim Hasslett. The narrative of the Steelers being the team to first use them is completely false. The Chargers were the team to first use them:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3866837

That was in the 1960s. My guess is there were many players using or experimenting with them, both before and after the Steelers 1970's dynasty. Ex-players tend to be a close-nit group and very few are willing to name names. Pop, you may or may not be a closeted Patriots fan as some have suggested, but its quite obvious you DO have something against the 1970's Steelers. Its one thing to state an opinion, but you take your opinion and try to state it is fact with little (or in most cases) zero documentation or evidence.

 

[POP]

if this is the criteria , please remember when center, and Guard come up.!

Well, if it is the truth, then I will remember.

 

[POP]

Here you go again, regurgitating crap from steeler-haters like che*triot fans, etc. 1st, steroids were not illegal nor were they a banned substance. Secondly, to say they played "against a lot of opponents who were not juicing" is purely speculation. There have been many non-steelers documented to have used them, including Lyle Alzado and Jim Hasslett. The narrative of the Steelers being the team to first use them is completely false. The Chargers were the team to first use them:

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3866837

That was in the 1960s. My guess is there were many players using or experimenting with them, both before and after the Steelers 1970's dynasty. Ex-players tend to be a close-nit group and very few are willing to name names. Pop, you may or may not be a closeted Patriots fan as some have suggested, but its quite obvious you DO have something against the 1970's Steelers. Its one thing to state an opinion, but you take your opinion and try to state it is fact with little (or in most cases) zero documentation or evidence.

I already knew all of the above, but not many other teams had juice as indoctrinated into their regular system as Pgh did. They took a systemic approach as a team, not guys just hitting and missing it on their own. And, yes, it was not illegal then.

As far as Alzado, he was hitting juice more in the 80's.

 

[stillwright]

Jackson and Marvel were top shelf and better than the rest. Kolb may have been juicing it, playing against a lot of opponents who were not juicing.

So you are saying Kolb might not have been juicing and his opponents might have....

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Top 5 steelers per position, the Offensive Tackles.

Now this one will be hard. For whatever reason the Steelers have never had a hall of fame Offensive Tackle since the AFL-NFL merger.

For my money John Kolb, who was perhaps the strongest player in the NFL ( he came in second in the world's strongest man ) is very underrated at left Tackle.

1 ) Kolb - Super strong, yet quick. Gave up few sacks.
2 ) Ilkin - I think he's a bit overrated
3 ) Gilbert On the rise. I think he's our best OL player today.
4 )Jackson . Solid as they come at left tackle.
5 ) Starks. A huge man. Good vs the pass or the run.
** I reserve the right to edit this list. **

We've had a lot of very good tackles over the years so it's hard to pick just five, but I'm okay with this list.

Jackson and Marvel were top shelf and better than the rest. Kolb may have been juicing it, playing against a lot of opponents who were not juicing.

Doesn't matter, it was not against the rules at the time. Besides, you've still got to know how to play.

 

[steelerscotty]

I already knew all of the above, but not many other teams had juice as indoctrinated into their regular system as Pgh did. They took a systemic approach as a team, not guys just hitting and missing it on their own. And, yes, it was not illegal then.

As far as Alzado, he was hitting juice more in the 80's.

They took a systematic approach as a team? You make that statement yet provide nothing to back it up. Ive not seen any evidence that steroid use was pushed by Noll or his coaches. In fact, the one guy we know for sure used over his entire career, was started on that path by his college coach. Steve Courson:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/saraceno/2005-03-31-saraceno-steroids_x.htm

Ive read elsewhere that Webster tried them but didn't like them. So one o-line man using habitually and a couple other guys on the team dabbling occasionally and a coach who disapproved but looked the other way (because it was not banned/illegal), constitutes "a systemic approach as a team"? I think from now on, when someone talks out their *** like they know everything stating opinion as fact, i will refer to this as using POP logic.