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Part 3: *Offensive Tackles and Interior Offensive Linemen. **By Thomas Cooper (TMC)

The Steelers have spent considerable resources on the offensive line in previous drafts including two 1st*round picks on interior offensive linemen and two 2nd*round picks on offensive tackles. *The 2015 NFL draft does not boast elite talent on the interior offensive line and may not have an interior offensive linemen drafted in the first round if Brandon Schreff and La’el Collins stay at tackle and Cameron Erving slips out of the tail end of the first, both likely scenarios. *The Steelers have a 4-time All-Pro center in Maurkice Pouncey. *At right guard, they have David DeCastro who has the potential to become an All-Pro player. *Ramon Foster is a steady presence at left guard, but Foster is entering the final season of his contract. *Cody Wallace is the primary depth on the interior with Chris Hubbard being the final interior linemen, but he cannot be viewed as more than a developmental player at this point. *The Steelers could look to add a potential starting left guard if they feel they can upgrade the position and quality depth is always desired. *It is unlikely the Steelers spend a high draft pick on an interior player, but there are some guys that could draw interest as early as the third round. *The most likely route is a mid-to-late round selection if a talented player slides to them. *While the names Laken Tomlinson, A.J. Cann, and Ali Marpet are the talk of most draftniks, it is likely that all three will be taken in the 2nd*or 3rd*round, meaning the price may be too great for the Steelers’ budget. *There are several interesting prospects that could fill the void if they are available.

Arie Kouandjio of Alabama is a player that if often overlooked. *He is widely considered a 3rd*round talent, but he has been passed on draft boards by players like Tomlinson, Tre Jackson, Marpet, and Cann. *When*you factor in potential centers and a wealth of tackles in this draft, he could be a forgotten player that slips down draft boards. *Kouandjio is 6046, 310 pounds with long arms and massive hands. *He did not workout at the combine and ran an average 5.48 forty at the combine. *He did not show great quickness in his workout and does not have any strength numbers since he is dealing with a hand injury. *On film, Kouandjio has a lot of positive things to offer. *He will play a little high at times and lead with his head, leading to some bad moments on film where the defensive player slides off his block or gets leverage. *When he bends his knees, plays with his head up, and extends his arms, he is much better. *At the Senior Bowl, Kouandjio was often matched against Danny Shelton and more than held his own against the highly rated defensive tackle. *He can have some issues with smaller, speed players but recovers well and shows enough power and bend to reset his feet and hold his ground. *He has good power at the point of attack and has the ability to move defensive players to create lanes. *While his athletic numbers are not elite, he does show a quick bounce to the hole when pulling and the ability to turn up the field and catch linebackers and safeties as they move in to fill. *He also has the ability to double the nose tackle and scrape onto linebackers on the second level, being the key down the field blocker on some of Alabama’s longer runs. *He has the look of a player that could develop into a quality left guard at the next level. *

Mitch Morse of Missouri is an interesting prospect, especially with Munchak as the Steelers offensive line coach. *Morse is 6053, 305 pounds. *He ran a solid 5.08 forty at the combine with a strong 4.50 shuttle time. *He threw up 36 reps on the bench. *All of those numbers are elite for the guard position. *Where Morse has issues is his arm length, which is on the short side for an offensive tackle and that is the position Morse played at Missouri. *This could mean that Morse’s NFL future is inside instead of as a left tackle, although his overall build compares pretty favorably to another Munchak disciple, Michael Roos. *This presents an interesting comparison considering, on film, he simply looks like a left tackle. *Morse has good feet and mirrors well in pass protection. *He picks up games and blitzes well. While he has excellent strength numbers, he is not a pile mover in the run game. *He has the feel of a finesse blocker that is at his best when walling off the defensive player. He does show good movement skills and could develop into an excellent pulling player in time. He has the physical attributes to potentially be coached up as a guard, but it is highly likely he would be given a chance as a left tackle before being moved inside and due to his intelligence, technical skills, and overall athleticism; his ultimate home may be at center. With all the various skills he has, he simply appears to be the type of player Munchak would covet. *While he opened some eyes with his combine numbers, he still has not risen up draft boards and appears to be a third day selection, which also fits into the area where the Steelers may add offensive line help.

Sean Hickey of Syracuse is another player with Steeler ties. Hickey has been working with Tunch Ilkin in preparation for the NFL draft. *Hickey is 6053, 309 pounds and while he did not do any running at the combine due to a hamstring injury, he did put up an impressive 35 reps on the bench. *Hickey was a left tackle in college, but he does not have elite arm length and could move inside at the next level. *He has massive hands and plays with excellent power. *He is a nasty run blocker that rarely gives ground and will often drive his man off the line. *He shows the ability to collapse the edge. *If he dropped his pad level as a run blocker, he could potentially become dominant in this area, but his overall power is pretty obvious. *As a pass blocker, he can struggle some in space and will lose some defensive players as the play wears on. *He can struggle with speed and players that throw a second pass rush move. *Hickey just appears to be a natural fit inside and could thrive once he makes the move. *He shows good enough feet to slide to the second level as a blocker and does a nice job of catching linebackers and creating lanes down the field for his runningback. *The biggest question will be if Hickey has the athleticism and footwork to operate as a pulling guard and if he does, he could settle in as a left guard and become a 10-year NFL starter at the position.
 
Shaquille Mason of Georgia Tech is another player that oddly fits the Steelers mold. *Mason fits the mold a little differently though, because he is shorter than ideal coming in at 6015, 310 pounds. *He also has short arms measuring 31-1/8th inches. *Those numbers are not ideal, but the Steelers have drafted and retained players with similar size. *He does not have elite strength numbers with only 25 reps on the bench, but Mason moves well and could potentially play all three interior positions. Mason played right guard for Georgia Tech and excelled at moving players in the run game. *He is very quick to the second level and does a nice job of finding his target and making contact. *He has the ability to move people in the run game and with his quickness; he could become an excellent pulling guard at the next level. *Where Mason can have issues is in pass protection where his length is an issue. *He has improved and showed great strides during the Senior Bowl. *He appears to be very coachable and a nice fit as a potential zone blocking player. *His ultimate home in the NFL might come at center but his length will be a big obstacle to overcome and he may never develop into a starting player. ****

Max Garcia of Florida rounds out the list of potential interior players. *He measured 6040, 309 pounds with 33-1/8th*inch arms. *Garcia did not workout at the combine and he may be limited prior to the draft because of a shoulder injury. *He did perform well at the Senior bowl and had a good week facing Danny Shelton, which really put him on a lot of teams’ draft boards. *Garcia is a solid run blocker that does not give ground easily. *He will sometimes allow defensive players to get under his pads, but he shows enough functional strength to hold his ground. *When he gets leverage, he does a nice job of pressing his advantage and creating creases in the defense. *He is smooth when asked to double the defensive tackle and slides easily to the linebacker. *He has some movement ability and could potentially play at guard. *He is a sticky blocker in both the run game and pass protection. *He does not fall off blocks and plays to the whistle. *In pass protection, he shows some ability to mirror defensive players and does not give ground easily. *When he is beaten to an edge, he works to direct the defensive player past his quarterback giving him room to step up or run into the opening. *He has the overall look of a starting interior player at the next level. *

The Steelers finally found some measure of stability at the tackle position in 2014. Kelvin Beachum stepped in and secured the left tackle spot. *He played well and has shown great value for a 7th*round pick, but as an NFL starter, he is just average. *Marcus Gilbert secured the right tackle position. Gilbert started the season poorly allowing 3 sacks in the first two games, but he only allowed 2 sacks over the remainder of the season. Mike Adams is the key backup to both tackle positions, but he has been inconsistent in his play and does not offer much in the way of insurance if a starter goes down for an extended period. *Behind Adams, the Steelers have Mitchell Van Dyke and Alejandro Villanueva, two developmental prospects. *In all honesty, the last thing the Steelers really need at tackle is bodies and the only potential move could be to add a blue-chip left tackle. *The thought process behind adding a left tackle would be to give him a year to learn and then, once Foster’s contract is finished, move Beachum inside to guard, the position he was originally projected to play prior to filling the massive void at left tackle. *The Steelers are a team that appears to be flushed with right tackle potential but very limited in their left tackle prospects. *The 2015 NFL draft appears to have some real potential at left tackle but addressing the position will require a pick in the 1st*or 2nd*round. *There are five prospects that really appear to fit the Steelers need and these players value meets nicely with the Steelers selection in those two rounds. While the Steelers could certainly address the position later in the draft, the first two rounds really offer a bounty of potential at the tackle position and the depth at other positions begin to come in during the middle rounds, making it a more logical choice to hit the position early where the talent resides and tapping into some other talent laden positions later. *
 
La’el Collins of LSU will likely be the top rated player with left tackle potential when the Steelers are on the clock in the first round. *Collins is 6044, 304 pounds and has nice arm length for the position. *He is a nasty run blocker at the point of attack and shows great power in the run game. *His prowess as a run blocker had many expecting a move inside as he could potentially be a dominant guard at the NFL level. *Collins came out at the senior bowl and combine and showed solid movement in pass protection. *While he does not have elite feet for a left tackle, they are solid enough for him to get a shot there before being moved inside. Collins does not give up the edge easily to speed rushers and the best part about his game is when he makes contact with defensive players, he rarely gets shed easily. *He is a tenacious blocker that hustles to the whistle and can often stone pass rushers once he engages. *Collins has a tremendous skill set and even if he struggles at left tackle, he has all the tools to be a fixture on the offensive line for a decade. *


Ereck Flowers
of Miami will likely come off the board much higher than many expect. *Flowers has excellent size at 6062, 329 pounds. *His arm length is 34 ½ inches and he has big hands. *He led all offensive linemen with 37 reps on the bench press, which is an elite number for a player with longer arms. Flowers ran well enough and showed solid movement for a bigger player. He uses his length and size well as a run blocker. *He has the ability to drive defensive players off the line of scrimmage and Miami often used Flowers to collapse the line creating edge running lanes. *He is a powerful player at the point of attack. *Flowers, like Collins, does not show elite feet in pass protection, but he has solid feet and enhances his pass protection by using solid technique, power, and patience. *Flowers does a nice job off the initial snap of getting a good set, recognizing the pass rusher, showing patience in allowing the pass rusher to come to him, and utilizing a nasty hand punch to gain control. *In the few instances where pass rushers have beaten Flowers off the snap, he uses his length to reach the pass rusher, then flashes a stiff and powerful hand punch that he uses to redirect the pass rusher around the quarterback. *He also shows great patience and does not overset against speed rushers, protecting the inside rush lane while still offering solid resistance to any outside sets. *He is able to handle double moves well because his initial strike often knocks the defensive player off balance and this allows Flowers to reset and maintain position. *He has faced some of the elite speed rushers in this draft and fared very well. *Flowers has a lot to like about his overall game and could end up being the top tackle in this draft. **

D.J. Humphries of Florida may be the best pure left tackle in this draft. *He is 6050, 307 pounds. *He has solid arm length at 33 5/8” and 10” hands. *He shows adequate strength with a bench of 26 reps and combines that with good hands and a low pad level, allowing him to get some movement in the run game. *He likes to deliver a solid hand punch to knock the defensive player off balance and then resets quickly to continue to get push. *In pass protection, Humphries moves exceptionally well. *He is light on his feet, slides quickly, keeps his head up, and just sticks on his blocks. *He also shows the ability to recognize defensive games and will come off a player slanting inside to pick up the looping blitzer. *He is simply a smooth player that makes one of the more difficult positions look easy. *Humphries may not have the raw power teams want in a right tackle or interior linemen, so he may be slotted as a left tackle only, which could hurt his value for teams that like versatile offensive linemen. *While Flowers has the ability to play either tackle spot, Humphries has special talent as a left tackle and could be a fixture there for a decade. *

Andrus Peat of Stanford has the length most teams want at tackle. *He measured at 6067, 313 pounds with 34 3/8” arms and 10” hands. *He has the prototypical frame for an offensive tackle and carries his weight well. *Peat has a thick lower body and can show that power as a run blocker. *He gets out in front of runs and leads well. *He finds targets on the second level and can be a devastating blocker. In pass protection, he shows good feet, although not as smooth as Humphries and lacks the big hand strike of Flowers. *He appears content to engage the defensive player and maul him, allowing him into his body at times but because of his powerful lower body, Peat is able to anchor and hold his ground. *He could use technique work and needs to further develop his hand strikes. *If he could deliver that pop he could jar defensive players off balance and use that extra second to recover in some instances. *He has the raw athletic ability to be a solid pro but will need a team willing to develop his overall game. *

Jake Fisher of Oregon is another big framed offensive tackle. *He measured 6061, 306 pounds with 33 ¾” arms and 10 3/8” hands. *He shows solid power with a bench press of 25 reps and he translates this power to the field. *Fisher played both left and right tackle at Oregon. *As a run blocker, he likes to maul the defensive player, often allowing him into his body where he tries to twist the player to the ground and is often successful with this technique. *He can be a powerful guy as a run blocker and uses leverage well. *As a pass blocker, he played in an offensive scheme that often got the ball out quickly. *He can struggle with speed, especially players that are quick off the snap and play into the game. *He does not recover well if the defensive player gets to his edge and gains an advantage. *He does not have well developed hand use and is a blocker that prefers to engulf the defensive player, even in pass protection. *He needs to work on extending his arms, using hand strikes to knock the defensive player off balance, and working to control the defensive player without losing positioning and leverage. *It will help him sustain his blocks longer. *When he engages and keeps space, he can be a very efficient blocker. Fisher has left tackle potential, but his ultimate home may be on the right side.

T.J. Clemmings of Pittsburgh is the type of player that simply looks great coming off the bus and can make you think you are in for a long day, but he just has not put the package together yet. *Clemmings played right tackle for Pittsburgh but has the athleticism and raw talent to project to the left side, and the key work here is project. *Clemmings has good size at 6046, 309 pounds with 35 1/8” arms and 10 3/8” hands. *He is a muscular guy that plays with a nasty demeanor. *He can be a punishing run blocker when he makes contact and shows the ability to collapse the end of the line. *He has a lot of things to like in this area. *In pass protection, he is woefully lacking. *He can be slow off the snap and really struggles with speed. *He shows nice footwork moving into his initial set, but will sometimes stop at that position and allow the defensive player to gain the corner, putting him in a chase position when a single deeper step would have allowed him to cut off the corner. *He can be beaten with pass rush moves and struggles to keep his hands in position to sustain blocks. *When facing better pass rushers, they can work him, pressing him deep and then diving inside, showing spins and rips to keep him off balance and guessing. *He simply has a long way to go to develop as a pass blocker and his technique will need a lot of work. *He is touted as a first rounder on his sheer athletic ability, but his value really comes near the end of the second or early third. *He just has too far to go to warrant an early selection.

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Just a thought. Maybe include the link so folks can buy his entire draft guide. I'm sure TMC would appreciate that.
 
Just a thought. Maybe include the link so folks can buy his entire draft guide. I'm sure TMC would appreciate that.

I mostly agree with TMC's write ups on the top tackles. I think he's a bit kind to Flowers. I have seen Flowers play a few times being based near Miami. Flowers is a RT type, or guard who has average at best footwork and foot speed. He's a lacks agility. I think he'll get beaten by NFL rushers, and gave up more pressures than you think.
 
Just a thought. Maybe include the link so folks can buy his entire draft guide. I'm sure TMC would appreciate that.

I thought he stopped marketing a draft guide after the 2013 draft and that this series was being done specifically for SN. I could be wrong, but I don't see a 2014 or 2015 guide offered on Amazon, where some previous ones were offered.
 
I won't be pissed off if we get a LT in the first. If there's no value at the positions of most need (OLB,CB) and there's a LT as one of the top 3 BPA I'll gladly take him, even over positions like S and TE. But that's just me
 
I won't be pissed off if we get a LT in the first. If there's no value at the positions of most need (OLB,CB) and there's a LT as one of the top 3 BPA I'll gladly take him, even over positions like S and TE. But that's just me

True Dat karma for a most intelligent post!
 
I won't be pissed off if we get a LT in the first. If there's no value at the positions of most need (OLB,CB) and there's a LT as one of the top 3 BPA I'll gladly take him, even over positions like S and TE. But that's just me

Agreed. If Trae Waynes is gone at CB and Gregory, Dupree, Beasley, etc are gone at pass rusher and a true blue chip LT is there I say go for it. I still feel Beachum is a serviceable LT but would be a pro bowl LG. I think a true LT strengthens the entire line and allows us to slide Beachum inside and not pay him LT money. And allows us to sign DeCastro and let Foster and Adams walk after this year. I have a feeling Marcus Peters or PJ Williams will be there in round two for us anyways.
 
He stopped doing the guide, very time consuming.

But I can see the passion and detail are still there.

good work TMC
 
Agreed. If Trae Waynes is gone at CB and Gregory, Dupree, Beasley, etc are gone at pass rusher and a true blue chip LT is there I say go for it. I still feel Beachum is a serviceable LT but would be a pro bowl LG. I think a true LT strengthens the entire line and allows us to slide Beachum inside and not pay him LT money. And allows us to sign DeCastro and let Foster and Adams walk after this year. I have a feeling Marcus Peters or PJ Williams will be there in round two for us anyways.

I'm almost positive any CB/Edge rusher I'd really want to spend a 1.22 pick on will be gone. For ability, I'd wouldn't mind Marcus Peters or Randy Gregory but if they are still on the board in the first, I think I pass. Not because I think we want boy scouts or some semi-mythical "steeler way", but because I want to be somewhat positive that the guy is going to make it through the first contract without getting suspended. I'm not sure that will be the case on either.

That will leave picking someone I'm not, particularly, excited about at that position, picking a different position or trading down. I'd prefer trading down and picking up an extra pick or so. I think I could pick up someone I'd be just as happy with at a spot 5 or so picks later and try to get some depth in later rounds.
 
Just a thought. Maybe include the link so folks can buy his entire draft guide. I'm sure TMC would appreciate that.

This is SteelerNation exclusive and he didn't make a draft guide. He's emailing me the parts as he finishes them.
 
Great write up, TMC...was missing these from him.
 
Really great to see your opinions again TMC - sorry that you got fed up with the trolls but there is a block feature...?
 
Please come back TMC....my absolute favorite person to ever post on this board. No offense to everyone else of course.
 
Was there a cb or OLB breakdown by TMC?







Shaquille Mason of Georgia Tech is another player that oddly fits the Steelers mold. *Mason fits the mold a little differently though, because he is shorter than ideal coming in at 6015, 310 pounds. *He also has short arms measuring 31-1/8th inches. *Those numbers are not ideal, but the Steelers have drafted and retained players with similar size. *He does not have elite strength numbers with only 25 reps on the bench, but Mason moves well and could potentially play all three interior positions. Mason played right guard for Georgia Tech and excelled at moving players in the run game. *He is very quick to the second level and does a nice job of finding his target and making contact. *He has the ability to move people in the run game and with his quickness; he could become an excellent pulling guard at the next level. *Where Mason can have issues is in pass protection where his length is an issue. *He has improved and showed great strides during the Senior Bowl. *He appears to be very coachable and a nice fit as a potential zone blocking player. *His ultimate home in the NFL might come at center but his length will be a big obstacle to overcome and he may never develop into a starting player. ****

Max Garcia of Florida rounds out the list of potential interior players. *He measured 6040, 309 pounds with 33-1/8th*inch arms. *Garcia did not workout at the combine and he may be limited prior to the draft because of a shoulder injury. *He did perform well at the Senior bowl and had a good week facing Danny Shelton, which really put him on a lot of teams’ draft boards. *Garcia is a solid run blocker that does not give ground easily. *He will sometimes allow defensive players to get under his pads, but he shows enough functional strength to hold his ground. *When he gets leverage, he does a nice job of pressing his advantage and creating creases in the defense. *He is smooth when asked to double the defensive tackle and slides easily to the linebacker. *He has some movement ability and could potentially play at guard. *He is a sticky blocker in both the run game and pass protection. *He does not fall off blocks and plays to the whistle. *In pass protection, he shows some ability to mirror defensive players and does not give ground easily. *When he is beaten to an edge, he works to direct the defensive player past his quarterback giving him room to step up or run into the opening. *He has the overall look of a starting interior player at the next level. *

The Steelers finally found some measure of stability at the tackle position in 2014. Kelvin Beachum stepped in and secured the left tackle spot. *He played well and has shown great value for a 7th*round pick, but as an NFL starter, he is just average. *Marcus Gilbert secured the right tackle position. Gilbert started the season poorly allowing 3 sacks in the first two games, but he only allowed 2 sacks over the remainder of the season. Mike Adams is the key backup to both tackle positions, but he has been inconsistent in his play and does not offer much in the way of insurance if a starter goes down for an extended period. *Behind Adams, the Steelers have Mitchell Van Dyke and Alejandro Villanueva, two developmental prospects. *In all honesty, the last thing the Steelers really need at tackle is bodies and the only potential move could be to add a blue-chip left tackle. *The thought process behind adding a left tackle would be to give him a year to learn and then, once Foster’s contract is finished, move Beachum inside to guard, the position he was originally projected to play prior to filling the massive void at left tackle. *The Steelers are a team that appears to be flushed with right tackle potential but very limited in their left tackle prospects. *The 2015 NFL draft appears to have some real potential at left tackle but addressing the position will require a pick in the 1st*or 2nd*round. *There are five prospects that really appear to fit the Steelers need and these players value meets nicely with the Steelers selection in those two rounds. While the Steelers could certainly address the position later in the draft, the first two rounds really offer a bounty of potential at the tackle position and the depth at other positions begin to come in during the middle rounds, making it a more logical choice to hit the position early where the talent resides and tapping into some other talent laden positions later. *
 
I won't be pissed off if we get a LT in the first. If there's no value at the positions of most need (OLB,CB) and there's a LT as one of the top 3 BPA I'll gladly take him, even over positions like S and TE. But that's just me

Have to agree with you. I would rather get a stud that is not sexy than stretch for a need that will create a 9000 page bitchfest about a corner drafted by Tolbert who didn't pan.
 
I didn't always agree with tmc but I respect the **** out of that dude. He was one the few you could have a different opinion on and the arguments wouldn't get crazy. He kept it clean as Long as you did. He knows his **** he's not always right but he is more often then not. So props tmc his board misses you
 
Have to agree with you. I would rather get a stud that is not sexy than stretch for a need that will create a 9000 page bitchfest about a corner drafted by Tolbert who didn't pan.

x2.............
 
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