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The Fuhrer has the option to initiate the "extraordinary act"

Djfan said:
The league has created a horrible situation. They lose if they do, and they are losing as they continue this garbage. It's worse than a dumpster fire. It's a class A disaster
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Football is going to go the way of NASCAR if they don't fix the officiating. A big part of football is gambling and FF and they're going to lose interest real quick if people think (rightly or wrongly) that the game is rigged or at least you can't count on an honest outcome.
 
thesteelcity said:
I think we all agree with Dave, but how long have we, as fans, been beating the same drum with the same beat? What is Rog's annual salary and they can't afford FT officials? It's a complete farce and joke.
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The officials are paid a full-time salary and then some.

The life of an NFL official is still pretty good. The travel is contained to the weekend. And while their exact pay isn’t known, the officials’ lockout of 2013 produced a new collective bargaining agreement that will pay each an average of $205,000 in 2019. In addition to getting paid for games, NFL officials also get paid $2,200 plus expenses for a day of work, Daopoulos said — whether that’s to attend an officiating clinic in New York or work a minicamp practice.

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I heard a national radio host say today that it is the gambling world that will fix this **** because gambling is becoming legalized. The NFL is coming to Vegas and now that it is all becoming legit they won't put up with this mickey mouse bullshit.
 
Coryea said:
The officials are paid a full-time salary and then some.

The life of an NFL official is still pretty good. The travel is contained to the weekend. And while their exact pay isn’t known, the officials’ lockout of 2013 produced a new collective bargaining agreement that will pay each an average of $205,000 in 2019. In addition to getting paid for games, NFL officials also get paid $2,200 plus expenses for a day of work, Daopoulos said — whether that’s to attend an officiating clinic in New York or work a minicamp practice.

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Put them on the podium Tom.

"Mr Referee WTF were you looking at?"

No more anonymity for the Line Judge who can't call an offside when the guy starts back pedalling 3 seconds before the ball is snapped on a touchdown pass in Pittsburgh on a Sunday Night.
 
Super Dave said:
Put them on the podium Tom.

"Mr Referee WTF were you looking at?"

No more anonymity for the Line Judge who can't call an offside when the guy starts back pedalling 3 seconds before the ball is snapped on a touchdown pass in Pittsburgh on a Sunday Night.
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I don't disagree with you, just stating they are paid extremely well.

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Super Dave said:
Besides, Roger would be awful busy on Sunday intervening in games that his officials were busy ******* up.
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You do realize there is a reason for them to be ******* these calls up , right.............?




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steelhurt said:
but Rule 17, Section 2, Article 1, as noted by Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, does exist.

I'm not saying it will happen but the rule is in place.
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Well to be honest...there are bigger scenarios where Goodell could have used this rule. You know.....any one of the games resulting from Spygate.

Oh wait,....we can’t. The tapes were destroyed by whom?


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These officials need to be full time. No more working 40 or 50 hours a week behind a desk then showing up on Sunday to officiate a game with multi million dollar implications. They should all be in a room 20 to 30 hours a week just reviewing game film together. That would go a long way towards some consistency.
 
Bountygate, Minnesota Miracle, and now this. Somehow Sean Payton is getting the Karma that Belichick has earned
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Football is going to go the way of NASCAR if they don't fix the officiating. A big part of football is gambling and FF and they're going to lose interest real quick if people think (rightly or wrongly) that the game is rigged or at least you can't count on an honest outcome.
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It seems that an honest outcome is not what a lot of fans expect, anymore. This chant of ours about the calls being favored towards teams (the cheats being the most common team mentioned) is pretty wide spread. Nothing seems to be in the works to fix it.

Games being rigged is a large step beyond just thinking an honest outcome is doubtful. I have arrived at the "fixed" conclusion because the known cheating was not stopped, the same team gets a vast majority of the bad calls in their favor, and games have been decided for that same team far more (at least by perception) than any other team. The Jessie James debacle (which I was there live to witness) was just confirmation of these suspicions.

It's too obvious. I just can't honestly look at it anymore and think it's anything but fixed, and the lousy refereeing is kept there to allow grey areas needed to pull games one way or the other.

I really think it's this bad. Do other agree with me? Yes. Do some think that I've taken it too far? Yes. But the numbers of dedicated fans who doubt the honest outcome of games anymore is increasing each Sunday. This has to be getting through to someone in the league office, somewhere.

At this point, if the league isn't doing anything to make it easier for us to agree with the honest outcome of games, it's easy for us to think that they want it to stay like it is. I have to wonder why, while I do other things besides watch the nfl.
 
Are there so many, many stupid people out there that it doesnt matter if they cheat or not, they will still get the network billions? That's pathetic.
 
If this is the case, wouldn't the Chargers- Steelers game fall into that category when an egregious false start by the Chargers was not called resulting in a Chargers TD. At that point in the game the Steelers held a 13 point lead and as we all painfully know eventually lost the game on a late Bolts FG.
No way Rog replays that game. If for any other reason, the example above would illustrate the cluster FAK that would result turning the NFL into a punchline.
 
Djfan said:
It seems that an honest outcome is not what a lot of fans expect, anymore. This chant of ours about the calls being favored towards teams (the cheats being the most common team mentioned) is pretty wide spread. Nothing seems to be in the works to fix it.

Games being rigged is a large step beyond just thinking an honest outcome is doubtful. I have arrived at the "fixed" conclusion because the known cheating was not stopped, the same team gets a vast majority of the bad calls in their favor, and games have been decided for that same team far more (at least by perception) than any other team. The Jessie James debacle (which I was there live to witness) was just confirmation of these suspicions.

It's too obvious. I just can't honestly look at it anymore and think it's anything but fixed, and the lousy refereeing is kept there to allow grey areas needed to pull games one way or the other.

I really think it's this bad. Do other agree with me? Yes. Do some think that I've taken it too far? Yes. But the numbers of dedicated fans who doubt the honest outcome of games anymore is increasing each Sunday. This has to be getting through to someone in the league office, somewhere.

At this point, if the league isn't doing anything to make it easier for us to agree with the honest outcome of games, it's easy for us to think that they want it to stay like it is. I have to wonder why, while I do other things besides watch the nfl.
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Great post and the ONLY group of fans that don 't think something is rigged are the MASSholes fan base. I see MANY a many more fans and hear MANY a many more conversation than ever about "fixed" Cheating" "Manipulated" than ever before and that conversation is growing. TWO conference championship games went into over time, NEVER happen before but was a result of manipulation. It isn't going unnoticed and this ball is rolling forward while gaining speed. Like you said though, stupid people allow stupid things to continue.





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Ike Kelly said:
Well to be honest...there are bigger scenarios where Goodell could have used this rule. You know.....any one of the games resulting from Spygate.

Oh wait,....we can’t. The tapes were destroyed by whom?


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I hear ya Ike. Of course the Furher will never,ever invoke such rule. Next CBA they will probably remove it.


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The NFL would never recover if there was a redo. The NFL already has to many problems and Godel would open one heck of a can of beans if he called for this action.
 
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