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Teary eyed Ben on his earlier strugges, "I lost my soul"

SteelerInLebanon said:
So their is no room in your heart to believe he might actually have had a change of outlook in his life?
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You mean like just last year when he was still punishing all of his hometown because a few people from their said some stuff he didn't like during his "adventures" in Georgia and Vegas.

You mean that kind of change? Please.....we are what we are. We can try to delude ourselves and alter our behavior, but like I said we are what we are.
 
Elfiero said:
You mean like just last year when he was still punishing all of his hometown because a few people from their said some stuff he didn't like during his "adventures" in Georgia and Vegas.

You mean that kind of change? Please.....we are what we are. We can try to delude ourselves and alter our behavior, but like I said we are what we are.
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I think I begin to understand your outlook on life. You have no hope or faith in anything, you can't begin to understand how people can change and just want to make everyone else miserable along with you. No wonder your are so delusional in the R&P forum. You only see the bad in people not the potential for good. People can and do change, it does not mean they become perfect or never have bad moments but they do have the ability to become a better person. No one ever gets there without help and faith in something even if it is not religion.
 
I'll get flamed for this, but **** a bunch of crying Ben R. That chick in south Georgia who got trapped in a bathroom by Ben and his boys gets to cry too, and my thoughts are with her.
 
CharlesDavenport said:
I'll get flamed for this, but **** a bunch of crying Ben R. That chick in south Georgia who got trapped in a bathroom by Ben and his boys gets to cry too, and my thoughts are with her.
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oh you mean the girl with the DTF sticker.... yeah anything she says is reliable
 
slashsteel said:
oh you mean the girl with the DTF sticker.... yeah anything she says is reliable
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Yes, her statement changed several times through out the investigation. EVEN her sorority sister's statements change from their original. The DA was as frustrated with them as he was of NOT being able to file charges on such a high profile person (BEN). The DA even went as far as PUBLICLY convicting (not in the court of law) Ben R and running a non-rational PRESS CONFERENCE of the ordeal. All this is public record but few have taken the time to actually educate themselves. NOT referring to you Slash as I realize you are well versed on this topic.




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it is possible that he saw the error in his ways and turned his life around. He had to or he could have been off the Steelers and possibly out of the NFL. He settled down with a wife and kids, and he should get the benefit of the doubt. He may still be a douchebag, but his personal life seems to have been cleaned up.

He gave to the police depts and police dogs for a long while, before his incidents, btw.

While it's the first time that he will be making a public donation for each touchdown pass he throws, it isn't the first time he's donated to police stations across the country. Earlier this summer, Roethlisberger issued a message to police and fire agencies, reminding them to apply for a grant from the Ben Roethlisberger Foundation, which has distributed an excess of $1.5 million since 2007, according to Big Ben's official website.
 
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CharlesDavenport said:
I'll get flamed for this, but **** a bunch of crying Ben R. That chick in south Georgia who got trapped in a bathroom by Ben and his boys gets to cry too, and my thoughts are with her.
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Par for the course. Another brilliant post from rembrandt davenport
 
Notice that Ben's foundation started giving money to cops for dogs after he got in trouble with the law the first time? Not homeless shelters, feeding the needy etc. I mean why would you want to do what Jesus would do anyway?
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Actually Ben has never been "in trouble with the law". Never arrested or charged with anything. But he started his foundation in 2006, before any of the accusations were made. The foundation also supports the Make a Wish foundation. Ya know, sick and dying kids, I think Jesus would approve.

All information easily accessible on its website. Talking out of your nether regions as usual.
 
As stated, Ben cleaned up his personal life. Religion aside, forgiven and move on. He has kids now and kids usually change the majority people for the better. In the spotlight Ben has changed for the better
 
SteelerInLebanon said:
I think I begin to understand your outlook on life. You have no hope or faith in anything, you can't begin to understand how people can change and just want to make everyone else miserable along with you. No wonder your are so delusional in the R&P forum. You only see the bad in people not the potential for good. People can and do change, it does not mean they become perfect or never have bad moments but they do have the ability to become a better person. No one ever gets there without help and faith in something even if it is not religion.
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Lol...OK.....

Nice strawman built from the idea that anyone who doesn't believe what you do can't be happy.

I assure you I am quite content, happy is over rated and comes and goes.

And to call me delusional for pointing out the wickedness and corruption of people you and your ilk enthusiastically support......don't even get me started.
 
What is it with half you one side people. Odd how everyone deserves a second chance but Ben. Look at all the idiot action by sports figures and actors and singers and everyone jumps on their band wagons , with giving them a second chance even third and fourth. Go back and read the reports from Georgia and the action od the DA, talk about inconsistent. Ben owns up to not being the type person he should have been and the world caves in.
 
Elfiero said:
Lol...OK.....

Nice strawman built from the idea that anyone who doesn't believe what you do can't be happy.

I assure you I am quite content, happy is over rated and comes and goes.

And to call me delusional for pointing out the wickedness and corruption of people you and your ilk enthusiastically support......don't even get me started.
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I never said that you had to believe what I believe. You don't even know what I believe. I think you are delusional for a lot of reasons.


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black and gold apex said:
What is it with half you one side people. Odd how everyone deserves a second chance but Ben. Look at all the idiot action by sports figures and actors and singers and everyone jumps on their band wagons , with giving them a second chance even third and fourth. Go back and read the reports from Georgia and the action od the DA, talk about inconsistent. Ben owns up to not being the type person he should have been and the world caves in.
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Ahhhhh......no, not really. I mean if you ask the same people who dangle from Ben's nutsack what they think of giving Ray Lewis a second chance they'll inform you that he is the devil himself and doesn't deserve it.

And all over a uniform and some kind of group cohesiveness connected to the meaningless
activity of flinging a ball from one pituitary retard to another.

Of course they might say that Lewis does now after reading this post. Believe me I see it in the P&R forum over and over after I enlighten them.
 
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Elfiero said:
Ahhhhh......no, not really. I mean if you ask the same people who dangle from Ben's nutsack what they think of giving Ray Lewis a second chance they'll inform you that he is the devil himself and doesn't deserve it.

And all over a uniform and some kind of group cohesiveness connected to the meaningless
activity of flinging a ball from one pituitary retard to another.

Of course they might say that Lewis does now after reading this post. Believe me I see it in the P&R forum over and over after I enlighten them.
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Hey Jackass maybe it is because Ray Lewis is a criminal and Ben is not that is fact. Big difference in situations. You enlighten no one in P&R.


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lol @ comparing Ben to Ray Lewis like they are even in the same ballpark situations. That is where I stopped reading in this debate. Ridiculous.
 
Elfiero said:
Because he's a fake Christian speaking at a fake University about his own narcissism

That's the gospel.

Notice that Ben's foundation started giving money to cops for dogs after he got in trouble with the law the first time?

Not homeless shelters, feeding the needy etc. I mean why would you want to do what Jesus would do anyway?

As phony as a 3 dollar bill, and as phony as that crappy music he listens to.
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You are by far one of the biggest morons I've ever encountered. And I've met some big ones.
 
Elfie is just hateful and seems to disdain seeing anyone finding joy and peace in their life.
 
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