Steelers Speak Out About Death of George Floyd

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By: Jessica Costello SteelerNation.com As protests continue around the country, it’s common to see celebrities and athletes use their platform to speak out against injustice. Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger, took to Twitter to speak on the tragic death of George Floyd. The cruelty and injustice must stop, racism must end, and love must find […]
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[Paul G]

Where do you even begin on sad situations like this as they continue to occur across the world. I do not condone any criminal activity on behalf of Mr. Floyd but the excessive force used by officers after he was cuffed and on the ground was appalling, especially when on lookers pointed out verbally that he looked unresponsive. Losing their jobs is not enough........ criminal charges must be laid and fully prosecuted or anarchy will escalate. Good to see Ben and the players voicing displeasure of the situation and concern for the victims and their families.

Peace

 

[Drink IRON City]

Another homerun Jessica, thanks


Believe me there was nothing right about the actions of a few on a handcuffed and detained person. He was subdued and not a threat but the officer kept showing his dominance (wrongly). We can't bring Floyd back but we can prosecute criminal action of the said officers. That goes out to looters / property damager's / unlawful agitators and race has no eyesight on who gets arrested and held accountable.

I don't claim to have the answers but I do know I treat others as I hope to be treated, in all aspects of life.




Salute the nation

 

[TDX27]

Everyone, on both sides of the political aisle, voiced displeasure about this extremely rare occurrence when it happened a week ago. It was disgusting and the cop was arrested and charged in record time. The "anarchy", rioting, burning of cars and buildings, assaulting people, and looting is unacceptable by any measure. The police, at this point, have no choice but to use force to stop these occurrences. If they won't do it, the national guard must. And, if they won't, the people will start shooting at these thugs trying to rob and hurt them and their families. I know I will if I'm attacked.

 

[Stryker]

Everyone, on both sides of the political aisle, voiced displeasure about this extremely rare occurrence when it happened a week ago. It was disgusting and the cop was arrested and charged in record time. The "anarchy", rioting, burning of cars and buildings, assaulting people, and looting is unacceptable by any measure. The police, at this point, have no choice but to use force to stop these occurrences. If they won't do it, the national guard must. And, if they won't, the people will start shooting at these thugs trying to rob and hurt them and their families. I know I will if I'm attacked.

I don't want a race war. I want the same thing my black friends and family want: To be heard.

Decades of a unified, clear message continues to go unheard: The black community doesn't feel safe and wants to be treated equally.

The only way out of this is for EVERYONE to stop making excuses, listen to the actual problem, then help to make this country better.

 

[MTC]

I don't want a race war. I want the same thing my black friends and family want: To be heard.

Decades of a unified, clear message continues to go unheard: The black community doesn't feel safe and wants to be treated equally.

The only way out of this is for EVERYONE to stop making excuses, listen to the actual problem, then help to make this country better.

Cope, a lot of us minorities don’t want a race war either.
These riots are a bad representation and bring more issues within our communities.

Anytime we have good stuff in progress, these riots happen and burn it all down.
Sadly we are creating more Detroits, Comptons and hurting our community family out of pure emotion.

The thing is once we settle down and realize we damaged our infrastructure and expect hand outs/taxes to aid in rebuilding what was torn down.

 

[SteelerSask2]

I don't want a race war. I want the same thing my black friends and family want: To be heard.

Decades of a unified, clear message continues to go unheard: The black community doesn't feel safe and wants to be treated equally.

The only way out of this is for EVERYONE to stop making excuses, listen to the actual problem, then help to make this country better.

This is a bang on post. Most police are excellent people, but it is clear there are issues for minorities. Peaceful protest is an important expression. Looting and rioting hurt a cause and innocent people.

 

[Litos]

There are infiltrated rioters from Venezuela trained by the Cuban communists, like they use here all the time and used on Chile last year. Obama/Trump had enough time to end this communist **** in Venezuela before it spread out through the rest of the container like it did, now is in your own back yard. Hope it isn't too late for you as it is here for us

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[Hypocycloids]

I don't want a race war. I want the same thing my black friends and family want: To be heard.

Decades of a unified, clear message continues to go unheard: The black community doesn't feel safe and wants to be treated equally.

The only way out of this is for EVERYONE to stop making excuses, listen to the actual problem, then help to make this country better.

You mean like the excuses some black leaders are making..."its their pent up anger being released due to years of systemic racism". That's garbage.

"Listen to the actual problem" ? They don't want to hear about the actual problem because they aint gonna like what they hear.

Yeah these looting thugs so much care about George Floyd as they make out with TV sets and other loot while taking selfies. ******* animals.

 

[SteelerSask2]

You mean like the excuses some black leaders are making..."its their pent up anger being released due to years of systemic racism". That's garbage.

"Listen to the actual problem" ? They don't want to hear about the actual problem because they aint gonna like what they hear.

Yeah these looting thugs so much care about George Floyd as they make out with TV sets and other loot while taking selfies. ******* animals.

Oh please enlighten us with the actual problem.

 

[slashsteel]

I come from a mixed family and would hate any wrong doing they would encounter because of their skin color. I would defend them if needed with whatever it took. I also know that racism is two fold as in a lot of it exists on both sides. Media seems to love to focus in on one side only. Saying that I get people are upset about the cops actions. He deserves whatever comes his way. I hate that nobody ever seems to want to focus in on the black on black killings. Because that is even more alarming the amount of it happening. Dumbing down our school systems is alarming too. They aren't doing under privileged kids of all colors any favors doing that. So look at the looting the sheer ignorance in large groups. America is failing these kids. I was looking at the arrests posted. Kids of all races with a common theme. Either no job or the lack of education or both. And while we are on education. The government loves to stick their nose into everything so much, get with these police departments and implement something for repeat offenders. Because the few bad cops I say a few because there is a lot of good ones are usually repeat offenders behavioral wise. Nobody pushes for logical resolutions because they don't want it fixed. Long term cushy politicians like the poor rich pendellum. When it is broken at the top don't be surprised when it isn't ever fixed in what they perceive to be the bottom. Also in this whole thing is the fact the two knew each other. Not that that matters in the wrong or right outlook. The second the cop had an opportunity to get assistance and let off the guys neck and didn't, he was wrong. The second he conveyed he had breathing issues and people asked him to let up and he didn't? Made him a murderer.


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[Stryker]

You mean like the excuses some black leaders are making..."its their pent up anger being released due to years of systemic racism". That's garbage.

"Listen to the actual problem" ? They don't want to hear about the actual problem because they aint gonna like what they hear.

Yeah these looting thugs so much care about George Floyd as they make out with TV sets and other loot while taking selfies. ******* animals.

I think it's time to stop blaming and start talking about the actual problem. My black friends and family would appreciate a conversation over blaming and demonizing Americans.

 

[Steelworth]

I think it's time to stop blaming and start talking about the actual problem. My black friends and family would appreciate a conversation over blaming and demonizing Americans.

You sound like you already know what the actual problem is, care to share what you think it is?

 

[Steelworth]

And I don't mean to come off sounding like a ******** or anything Cope, I'm just genuinely curious about what you think the problem is.

 

[SteelerSask2]

I won't speak for another man, but I'm pretty sure the highlighted parts of Stewey's rant might be just a Tincey Wincey bit of the problem.

 

[Steelworth]

In my opinion, two problems exist between the black and white communities in our United States of America:

On one side:

Fatherlessness - too many young men have grown up without a father figure to help guide them through life in a productive manner, with respect and a conscientiousness for all other people

Victim mentality - too many young men and women buy into the idea that they're merely victims (and always have been), and don't have the means or fortitude to forge their own path and realize their own dreams that this country affords them

On the other side:

Empathy - a wise person once said, do not judge another man/woman until you've walked in his/her shoes. I believe there's a lack of empathy for struggling young men and women who may not have been taught/provided certain tools to live a life that others have been afforded more easily & readily and perhaps have taken for granted

Racism - this is where it gets dicey. Some people seem to look at another's skin color and will immediately judge them by that. I'm not saying that anybody here does that, but I've seen and heard it with my own eyes and ears -- yes there are racists in this country. Perhaps police precincts need independent oversight committees that account for every officer's conduct that may be questionable. I know that just seems like more money spent for government-type regulation, but I don't know what else you can do at this point

I told another poster in the P&R forum I didn't have the time to give my thoughts on this earlier, but I certainly did now. Hopefully most of what I said made sense to you *peace&love*

 

[SteelerSask2]

I think you make some very good points Steelworth and it's well articulated. A couple things I might add as an outsider. Racidm plays out in every culture. Not just America. But, part of what gets played out is racism is really classism. Rich wanting to hold on to money. Middle class scapegoating for their own financial struggles. I can see two major issues though:
1.Middle class white people value police, but they don't want to pay them enough to hold them to a greater accountability. Police officers top out over 100k in Canada and attract some of the best and brightest.
2. US school systems keep creating a divide between the haves and have nots. To the point where pull yourself up by your bootstraps is a ****** laughable proposition.
Whatever society you live in. The poorest have the most encounters with the police and therefore the most negative ones. Its math.

 

[Steelworth]

Good points, Sask. Points we should all take into consideration.

 

[Stryker]

I appreciate the discussion Steelworth. From what I've seen from decades of consistent non violent protests, is they want a safer community that values them as equals.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Yes Cope and Steelworth. Good discussion. I think people's entrenched politics play a major role in all of it too. It is becoming increasingly difficult to discuss these things rationally. Your politics cannot become like your sports team where the Steelers never hold and the Pats always cheat. It just leads to conflict.

 

[Steelworth]

I appreciate the discussion Steelworth. From what I've seen from decades of consistent non violent protests, is they want a safer community that values them as equals.

I see you liked 'Sasks' post, but didn't like mine -- why not? I thought I laid it all out as honestly an accurately as could be. So again, why the 'inconsistency'?

 

[Steelworth]

I appreciate the discussion Steelworth. From what I've seen from decades of consistent non violent protests, is they want a safer community that values them as equals.

While you're talking about decades of non-violent protests, I've seen **** from black people in the last few days I don't ever want to see again. You've seen decades of non-violent protests? I've seen something different. Don't claim you're black-activist or whatever -- as you've already claimed you're a scientist.

 

[Steelworth]

Yes Cope and Steelworth. Good discussion. I think people's entrenched politics play a major role in all of it too. It is becoming increasingly difficult to discuss these things rationally. Your politics cannot become like your sports team where the Steelers never hold and the Pats always cheat. It just leads to conflict.

I understand where you're coming from, Sask. I just have a little bit more to ask Cope, as any rational person would want to.

 

[SteelerSask2]

Again I don't speak for others. And I agree you have been rational and honest. I think there are mostly good people in those crowds just as most police officers are good hardworking and honest people. But when words like animals get used there is some connection to the well meaning protestors not just the looters and the rioters. So at least in some situations this plays out. Policeman kills a man over nothing and his colleagues stand and watch. People say " but it's a tough job" and "we don't know all the facts". People plan a peaceful demonstration and a group hijacks it and makes it a riot. Look at those animals without distinction. And I want to be clear Steelworth I'm not painting your words with that brush because you haven't said that.

 

[Steelworth]

Yes Cope and Steelworth. Good discussion. I think people's entrenched politics play a major role in all of it too. It is becoming increasingly difficult to discuss these things rationally. Your politics cannot become like your sports team where the Steelers never hold and the Pats always cheat. It just leads to conflict.

I thought I made some valid points, Sask. And I asked my friend, Cope, to provide us with some answers. That's all.

And I don't mean to be the bad team. At all. Been drinking like a Canadian though.