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Steelers move up 3 spots for Rudolph

Steeltime said:
Yeah, but at 6'5", 240 bs. he should be able to fire the ball through a carwash without getting the damn thing wet - like Ben. He can't. He is a very large guy with surprisingly little arm strength. Get him to one of those baseball camps that improve fastball velocity by 10 MLB.
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I'm not comparing to guy to Aaron Rodgers in any way. But I do recall when Rodgers was drafted that Merrill Hoge was on my TV nonstop saying that Rodgers did not have the arm strength to throw downfield in the NFL. Said he thrived at Cal only because the offense was dink and dunk.

Rudolph has been acknowledged as the best deep ball passer in this draft. That's something to start with even though the percentage of deep ball passes in the NFL is surprisingly low (although Ben throws deep as much as anybody). So maybe Rudolph can gain some more zip on his intermediate passes.
 
If he develops as a passer his intermediate passes won't have to be heaters, Montana, Young, Rogers, and others didn't have the greatest arm strength, but they understood the game and threw accurately and on-time and were/are great QBs. I have no idea if Rudolph can turn into that or something close, but his arm strength won't be the reason he fails, he'll fail because he doesn't improve as a QB.

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SteelerAl said:
I'm not comparing to guy to Aaron Rodgers in any way. But I do recall when Rodgers was drafted that Merrill Hoge was on my TV nonstop saying that Rodgers did not have the arm strength to throw downfield in the NFL. Said he thrived at Cal only because the offense was dink and dunk.

Rudolph has been acknowledged as the best deep ball passer in this draft. That's something to start with even though the percentage of deep ball passes in the NFL is surprisingly low (although Ben throws deep as much as anybody). So maybe Rudolph can gain some more zip on his intermediate passes.
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When Tom Brady entered the league, some knocked his arm. But he worked on it and increased his range and velocity. If Rudolph could do the same, we could have something special.

Here's what I don't get. Baker Mayfield, a short walk-on QB went #1 overall. No says BIG 12 defenses.. But when its Rudolph, they say Big 12 defenses
 
The issue with Rudolf will be learning a pro style offense. These gimmick *** RPO, veer, looking at ******* pictures on the sidelines and backup quarterbacks flailing their arms like drunken 3rd base coaches don't help these college quarterbacks.

The kid has good mechanics, footwork, and nice arm. If he can learn to read a defense and go through progressions he could be a steal in the draft
 
I'm not surprised by this pick. Lots of talk about it. But why did they draft Landry Jones several years ago?

Rudolph was excellent in college, but the question is how much longer will Ben play? Best case I see Landry and Rudolph battling it out to be the starter. I don't think Landry has been THAT bad. He needs more playing time. I would also say he's been okay for filling in. Who knows if Rudolph can top that. I will say that I doubt Josh Dobbs becomes the next starter.
 
I'll say this after watching some of Rudolph's highlights from his college career. He can make all the throws and has great mechanics and excellent footwork. If he has any weakness he doesn't do very well throwing on the run. I am really starting to warm up to this pick. I think he's a first round talent and right up there with the other QBs in this draft class.
 
SteelerAl said:
I'm not comparing to guy to Aaron Rodgers in any way. But I do recall when Rodgers was drafted that Merrill Hoge was on my TV nonstop saying that Rodgers did not have the arm strength to throw downfield in the NFL. Said he thrived at Cal only because the offense was dink and dunk.

Rudolph has been acknowledged as the best deep ball passer in this draft. That's something to start with even though the percentage of deep ball passes in the NFL is surprisingly low (although Ben throws deep as much as anybody). So maybe Rudolph can gain some more zip on his intermediate passes.
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Yeah, I hear you, and agree that Rudolph throws a good deep ball. The deep ball is more timing and accuracy than arm strength, I believe. The cross-field out is the ball that needs arm strength and the pass coming in at 60 mph. Rudolph not there yet. But given that Fichtner has made Landry Jones a pretty decent NFL QB, I think Rudloph is on the right team and with the right coaches.
 
Don't get the QB pick or the tackle, we need some players while this team is competitive. Yes we signed all these free agents but MLB is a big concern and to take a another QB and this tackle that has not one good review is as the new catch word this year a strrreeeccchhhh.
 
Steelers1356 said:
Value. If you have a receiver rated higher and you need him for example, best not to reach for a lower rated defensive player.
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Also, keep in mind that after the second round, you're generally not getting a guy who can step in and immediately fill a hole. 3rd round and later guys are usually all "down the road" types, so If you're drafting for down the road, it makes sense to consider players at very tough positions to play where there will soon be a need, like QB, and tackle. O-line is such an important thing, that I think you need to draft one nearly every year.
 
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Kevin Colbert said it was very easy to draft Mason Rudolph in the third because the Steelers had Rudolph graded right there with the five first-round QBs
 
He is a slightly more athletic Nick Foles. Given the right offense, he can light it up.
 
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