Some love from espn.......finally

[fedderone]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...sburgh-steelers-new-england-patriots-top-list

And yet, by the narrowest of margins, the Steelers have to be my top team for a few reasons. One is positional scarcity: While Gronkowski is better than the rest of the league's tight ends to a greater extent than Brown is better than the rest of the league's wideouts, a dominant wide receiver is more valuable than even a transcendent tight end. There's a reason Graham wanted to be paid like a wideout: The market suggests that they're worth more.

It's true that Edelman plays a position (wide receiver) which is far more valuable than Bell's (running back), but the other factor in comparing these two is that the ceiling for the Steelers is just a tiny bit higher. Edelman is a fantastically useful receiver, but there will never be a day when anybody without a Patriots tattoo says he's the best wide receiver in football over Brown or Julio Jones, if not three or four more guys. You can make a case, given his versatility and sheer impact as a receiver, that Bell was the best running back in football in 2014. Granted, that was a year mostly without Adrian Peterson, but a healthy Bell is near the top of the charts in a way that Edelman won't be.

Even if you give Brady (who you have to project as missing the first four games) a slight edge over Roethlisberger (who is likely to miss a game or two due to injury), the chances of having the best running back and best wide receiver in football at the same time are enough to push the Steelers to the top of the offensive triplet charts.

 

[Litos]

 

[SteelerFan448]

It's true that Edelman plays a position (wide receiver) which is far more valuable than Bell's (running back), but the other factor in comparing these two is that the ceiling for the Steelers is just a tiny bit higher.

Not sure I understand this. At his best, Edelman caught 105 passes for 1,056 yards, 54 first downs and has a career high of 7 touchdowns. By comparison, Bell ran the ball 290 times for 1,361 and caught 83 passes for 854 yards, 114 first downs and combined for 11 touchdowns. When you have a running back like Bell and are doing a direct comparison, no way can you call wide receiver "way more valuable."

 

[Litos]

Not sure I understand this. At his best, Edelman caught 105 passes for 1,056 yards, 54 first downs and has a career high of 7 touchdowns. By comparison, Bell ran the ball 290 times for 1,361 and caught 83 passes for 854 yards, 114 first downs and combined for 11 touchdowns. When you have a running back like Bell and are doing a direct comparison, no way can you call wide receiver "way more valuable."

these media ******* just love everything patriots related. Edelman near as valuable as Bell? yeah right, ask any coach or FO in the NFL

 

[scstillerfan]

Edelman, Welker, Amendola, T. Brown are (were) all good at getting open within 10 yards, where 5-yard Brady has always done most of his damage. None of them are nearly as effective in other offenses.

 

[Drink IRON City]

How or what part of their respective good is the product of cheating or the product of honesty (all players associated with NE**** franchise ????

There is NO question to the importance of some limp dick cheater VS our beloved Mr. Bell !!!!
Oh, what about the part ofr t*mmy b*y better than BEN??? I take Rothlesburgher 10 out of 10 vs cheater b*y ........





Salute the nation

 

[deljzc]

Don't listen to the noise.

And that's all this stuff is. Noise. ESPN, NFL Network, most of the bigger websites, have LONG AGO given up on trying to be objective and/or educational in their reporting and analysis. Now it is always self-serving and ratings based. And they use "social media talk" and "web hits" as other public polling methods to dictate their programming (that's why once something starts to get talked about, these "news" broadcasts beat it to death with coverage, coverage and more coverage).

Don't watch it. Highlights are overrated anyhow. You can find the scores anywhere. And you can probably find better information about specific games from a myriad of on-line locations that don't talk down to you or don't talk like you're 18 years old and have the attention span of a 5 year old.

I would also STRONGLY suggest taping your Steelers games from now on with DVR (or similar) if you have it and starting the games 1 hour later. Your family will love you for it. Go do something outside from 1PM to 2PM on Sundays. Play with your kids. When you come inside, nothing is different and you get to compress and game without commercials into 2 to 2 1/2 hours. It's awesome. Once you do it a few times, you'll never go back. And 1 hour delay always seems to be perfect to time close to the end of the real game time (so if you like commercials and delay to be part of the "drama" of a close game, you'll still have that).

 

[Coach]

Don't listen to the noise.

And that's all this stuff is. Noise. ESPN, NFL Network, most of the bigger websites, have LONG AGO given up on trying to be objective and/or educational in their reporting and analysis. Now it is always self-serving and ratings based. And they use "social media talk" and "web hits" as other public polling methods to dictate their programming (that's why once something starts to get talked about, these "news" broadcasts beat it to death with coverage, coverage and more coverage).

Don't watch it. Highlights are overrated anyhow. You can find the scores anywhere. And you can probably find better information about specific games from a myriad of on-line locations that don't talk down to you or don't talk like you're 18 years old and have the attention span of a 5 year old.

I would also STRONGLY suggest taping your Steelers games from now on with DVR (or similar) if you have it and starting the games 1 hour later. Your family will love you for it. Go do something outside from 1PM to 2PM on Sundays. Play with your kids. When you come inside, nothing is different and you get to compress and game without commercials into 2 to 2 1/2 hours. It's awesome. Once you do it a few times, you'll never go back. And 1 hour delay always seems to be perfect to time close to the end of the real game time (so if you like commercials and delay to be part of the "drama" of a close game, you'll still have that).

It really depends on the reporter. Mayock isn't noise. Hes excellent. Brian Billick is very good on the radio. Mike Florio is decent on contracts, PR issues, and legal issues. Merril Hoge is decent.

Noise is Chirs Berman, Jaws, pertty much most of ESPN.

 

[mightyguru]

That's a weird list....just picking the three best offensive players per team rather than QB, WR (TE)and RB keeps it closer, otherwise, the Steelers run away with it.

 

[DBS1970]

Interesting read but I have a tough time taking anything the four letter network says seriously.

 

[Steel G]

Not sure I understand this. At his best, Edelman caught 105 passes for 1,056 yards, 54 first downs and has a career high of 7 touchdowns. By comparison, Bell ran the ball 290 times for 1,361 and caught 83 passes for 854 yards, 114 first downs and combined for 11 touchdowns. When you have a running back like Bell and are doing a direct comparison, no way can you call wide receiver "way more valuable."

ESPN sucks, but all he was saying there is that currently, wideouts are more valuable than rbs in the NFL because the league is pass happy.

 

[pittbull]

ESPN has become a liberal rag. They fire anyone that dares reveal conservative values. I haven't watched or read their webpage in 5 years.

 

[BLITZ]

Don't listen to the noise.

And that's all this stuff is. Noise. ESPN, NFL Network, most of the bigger websites, have LONG AGO given up on trying to be objective and/or educational in their reporting and analysis. Now it is always self-serving and ratings based. And they use "social media talk" and "web hits" as other public polling methods to dictate their programming (that's why once something starts to get talked about, these "news" broadcasts beat it to death with coverage, coverage and more coverage).

Don't watch it. Highlights are overrated anyhow. You can find the scores anywhere. And you can probably find better information about specific games from a myriad of on-line locations that don't talk down to you or don't talk like you're 18 years old and have the attention span of a 5 year old.

I would also STRONGLY suggest taping your Steelers games from now on with DVR (or similar) if you have it and starting the games 1 hour later. Your family will love you for it. Go do something outside from 1PM to 2PM on Sundays. Play with your kids. When you come inside, nothing is different and you get to compress and game without commercials into 2 to 2 1/2 hours. It's awesome. Once you do it a few times, you'll never go back. And 1 hour delay always seems to be perfect to time close to the end of the real game time (so if you like commercials and delay to be part of the "drama" of a close game, you'll still have that).

The hour delay is exactly what I do for Sunday 1pm or 4 pm games. I remember 8-10 years ago I would watch pregame from the time it came on then the 1pm game then the 4 pm game then watch post game, 8 pm game and then of course more post game.

Fast forward to today and I turn on the tv at 2 pm and watch from the dvr. sometimes I will do the Sunday night game or Monday night game depending on the matchup. My passion for the Steelers is still strong as ever, for the rest of the NFL? not so much.

 

[POP]

What's up with "angry Steeler fan?"

It seems to me, at least 50% of Steeler fans, always think the media, etc. do not give the Steelers their rightful kudos, etc.

I find this misplaced and illogical.

These folk think every announcer is against us, every tv show doesn't talk about us enough, and they get all angry about it.

They constantly claim we don't get enough respect, regardless of whether it is true or not.

For instance, these same people tend to hate Phil Simms and Chris Collinsworth, claiming they both hate the Steelers and never say anything positive when they do our games. That is complete bull ****. Both of those guys say plenty of positive things about the Steelers during our games. As a matter of fact, they both saying glowing things about the team all the time.

Oh, and this same type of fan HATES every non-Steeler that is any good. I find this mental state quite retarded and immature.

Now, I can understand _some_ level of this. For instance, I used to be OK with Green Bay - they seem like a good organization, etc. But since we lost to them in the Super Bowl, I kind of have a little disdain for them. I mean, I don't sit here and loath them, and care very much if they win or lose, but since that game, I definitely don't feel warm and fuzzy about them either.

Any how, I just don't get the whole "hate everything non Steeler" across the board mentality. It just isn't reasonable or sane.

 

[slashsteel]

 

[Confluence]

I find this misplaced and illogical.

I find this mental state quite retarded and immature.

It just isn't reasonable or sane.

These judgments are far above your hamster's ability.

 

[BLITZ]

I am confused are we talking about the steelers or rhe cheatriots

 

[POP]

The obsession continues. Keep following my every thread. Good little pet. Now sit. Shake. Down. Roll over. (pats on head)

 

[POP]

I am confused are we talking about the steelers or rhe cheatriots

I don't know? Can you read?

 

[slashsteel]

The obsession continues. Keep following my every thread. Good little pet. Now sit. Shake. Down. Roll over. (pats on head)

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...sburgh-steelers-new-england-patriots-top-list

And yet, by the narrowest of margins, the Steelers have to be my top team for a few reasons. One is positional scarcity: While Gronkowski is better than the rest of the league's tight ends to a greater extent than Brown is better than the rest of the league's wideouts, a dominant wide receiver is more valuable than even a transcendent tight end. There's a reason Graham wanted to be paid like a wideout: The market suggests that they're worth more.

It's true that Edelman plays a position (wide receiver) which is far more valuable than Bell's (running back), but the other factor in comparing these two is that the ceiling for the Steelers is just a tiny bit higher. Edelman is a fantastically useful receiver, but there will never be a day when anybody without a Patriots tattoo says he's the best wide receiver in football over Brown or Julio Jones, if not three or four more guys. You can make a case, given his versatility and sheer impact as a receiver, that Bell was the best running back in football in 2014. Granted, that was a year mostly without Adrian Peterson, but a healthy Bell is near the top of the charts in a way that Edelman won't be.

Even if you give Brady (who you have to project as missing the first four games) a slight edge over Roethlisberger (who is likely to miss a game or two due to injury), the chances of having the best running back and best wide receiver in football at the same time are enough to push the Steelers to the top of the offensive triplet charts.

The article is about picking the best set of triplets. This guy basically spends the whole article apologizing for picking the steelers. How about this, the Steelers are so far superior to the Pats it's not funny. Why would it even be questioned? AB is the top WR. Bell is the top RB, and Ben is in his prime unlike Brady who only throws short passes most of the time.

Edelman isn't even a top 20 WR. He's just in a system that uses his limited skillset.

 

[BLITZ]

I don't know? Can you read?

why yes I can read. I can read what is posted, I can read between the lines, I can read through bullshit. My spidey sense tells me their is a Pats troll amongst us

 

[Steel G]

It seems to me, at least 50% of Steeler fans, always think the media, etc. do not give the Steelers their rightful kudos, etc.

I find this misplaced and illogical.

These folk think every announcer is against us, every tv show doesn't talk about us enough, and they get all angry about it.

They constantly claim we don't get enough respect, regardless of whether it is true or not.

For instance, these same people tend to hate Phil Simms and Chris Collinsworth, claiming they both hate the Steelers and never say anything positive when they do our games. That is complete bull ****. Both of those guys say plenty of positive things about the Steelers during our games. As a matter of fact, they both saying glowing things about the team all the time.

Oh, and this same type of fan HATES every non-Steeler that is any good. I find this mental state quite retarded and immature.

Now, I can understand _some_ level of this. For instance, I used to be OK with Green Bay - they seem like a good organization, etc. But since we lost to them in the Super Bowl, I kind of have a little disdain for them. I mean, I don't sit here and loath them, and care very much if they win or lose, but since that game, I definitely don't feel warm and fuzzy about them either.

Any how, I just don't get the whole "hate everything non Steeler" across the board mentality. It just isn't reasonable or sane.

I dont hate Simms cause he hates the Steelers. I hate him because he is ******* terrible at his job.

 

[skialta]

How they can say "by the narrowest of margins" is ******* beyond me

 

[doggfather69]

I saw this article and was very pleased myself. However I have seen others that have us as far down as 9. Doesn't mean ****, that's why we play the games and they get paid to ruffle your feathers.