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Reflections on 3 amazing careers -- 43-24-99

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With all of the transition on on the Steelers defense --- I'd like to take a minute to reflect on just how good the Steelers Defense really was for the first decade of the 2000s. There was no nickname like Steel Curtain or Blitzburgh and there likely will only be 1 Hall of Famer to represent a core that finished in the top 10 for overall defense 12 consecutive seasons, including 5 times finishing #1 (with a 2nd $ 3rd) on top of 3 times AFC Championships & 2 Super Bowls.

That alone eclipses the vaunted 85 Bears & 2000 Ravens -- both of whom had great 1 year runs but played 2 of the worst ever Super Bowl opponents & congrats to their victories; but neither could match the Steelers multiple championships -- in fact while the Steelers were in fact playing for the ultimate prize again; neither of those "All Time Great" defenses managed to win more than 1 playoff game again.

Personally, I think we should take a moment to reflect and appreciate how 3 of the main contributors -- Troy, Ike & Keisel --to that unit have retired -- having started and finished their career as Pittsburgh Steelers only, that's something we might not see again. What memories do you have of their careers and what made them stand out to you initially? What was the best game, best memory you have of their careers?

In doing so; Troy's greatest momen/biggest play as a Steeler is akin to asking same question about Franco Harris, so for the purpose of this thead only; set aside the pick six that sent us to Tampa in 2008. When did you really start to appreciate each?
 
Troy Polamalu: Troy was easily the best Steelers defensive player for this mini dynasty and probably the only Hall of Famer. The only debate about him not being a first ballot is going to come from douche bags like Rich Goeslin who out of spite because he's the Cowboys beat writer and has a vote and quite frankly, doesn't want more Steelers than Cowboys in the Hall of Fame.

The Situation:
Troy marked the first time in Steelers history they traded up in the draft. They were coming off the worst pass defense performance in recent memory, at least since the horrific 1986 secondary which led us having the opportunity to draft Rod Woodson. The secondary was in such dire need that the front office had agreed to terms with Super Bowl MVP Dexter Jackson, which would have been a disaster, but instead of signing, he got a call that the Cardinals made the financial offer he wanted and he ducked out of the facility without even facing the team representatives . That is inexcusable and I am thankful he turned us down!

Troy's career snapshot:
Troy was a play-maker -- pure and simple. What he did on the football field were feats that no one has ever done before nor will likely to be seen done again. Who the heck times snap counts via instinct? He would blow up plays from out of nowhere. He struggled as a rookie because as Bill Cowher put it, they attempted to put too much on him instead of letting him master certain concepts first. On a defense that just simply was dominant over a prolonged period of time and it was really a perfect scenario; if Troy played in a traditional cover-2 instead of the free reign that he had (and had earned) and it took a certain type of Free Safety to play with him so that he could play with that free reign. There are some who say that Troy's statistics aren't as good as an Ed Reed or Brian Dawkins and they are right, they aren't as good. But the game isn't played on paper and Troy didn't just make interceptions, he changed the outcomes of games when he made plays. When it comes to all time Steelers greats on Defense, you'll see names ahead of him named Greene and Woodson -- one can make an argument that he's ahead of names like Lambert, Ham, Stautner and Blount. Either way you look at it, it's splitting hairs as he is an all time great.

The FSF Legacy Take on Troy Polamalu
When I think of what Troy and his career as a Steeler, the things that stand out to me
The question of who is better, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu: It's like comparing a LB to a DE, you can't do it. They played totally different games and impacted in totally different ways. And the way I see it, they revolutionized the Free Safety and Strong Safety positions similar to how Lawrence Taylor influenced the OLB position -- where prior to LT the OLB was not a pass rusher, now it is. Reed played that center field better than anyone else in history and his INTs and ball hawking proved that, but the two were not interchangeable. Troy would roam, he would read the QB and change the defense to (much to the chagrin of Bill Cowher and Mike Tomlin at times). Tom Brady took advantage of that in the 2004 AFC Championship game I;m sorry to say. So Troy got burned quite a bit because of his risk taking nature, leading many layman to say he was over rated in coverage. Anyone saying that is just a Steelers hater. Nonetheless if you were to ask me which player I would rather have, the non biased answer would be predicated on the defensive system we're using. But in a vacuum I would say Troy Polamalu because I think we'll see a ball hawking Fee Safety with a lot of INTs; but I don't think we'll ever see anyone do what Troy did on the football field ever again and remember, as good as the defense was -- that team was 100% different with him in line up vs. not.
  • Ed Reed: 9 Pro Bowls and 5 All Pros; 64 INTs, 6 sacks, 9 total defensive TDs -- 2004 DPOY
  • Troy Polamalu: 8 Pro Bowls and 4 All Pros; 32 INTs, 12 sacks, 5 total defensive TDs* officials did wrongly take one away in San Diego game 2008 -- 2010 DPOY
Troy Polamalu truly was the difference maker in 5 games in 2010, far more than the stat sheet shows -- they almost certainly would have lost 1 or more of these games without his difference at the margin and getting that 2nd seed.
  1. Week 1 vs. Atlanta Falcons: Dennis Dixon took back to back sacks late in the 4th and tied at 9-9. The Falcons had a perfect opportunity with good field position to get a game winning FG, and Matt Ryan made one throw -- Troy flew in front and got the INT. Although Reed missed the FG, the momentum the Falcons had after the sacks were gone. The Steelers won in OT when Mendenhall finally broke a long TD after struggling on offense all day
  2. Week 2 vs. Tennessee Titans: The Steelers struggling offense got an early TD off a brilliant opening kickoff reverse to a kid named Antonio Brown. Chris Johnson was a machine at RB with 12 straight 100 yard games, Troy ruined a Titans Red Zone opportunity with an INT in the end zone (foiling at minimum a FG attempt and delayed the final furious rally with his perfectly timed dive over center to tackle Collins -- although the Titans still scored to come within a TD, the lost time on the clock was crucial when they recovered the onside kick
  3. Week 11 vs. Buffalo Bills: In a game that had no business being close (Steve Johnson dropped a wide open TD). Troy came up with a critical INT once again in the red zone with 3 minutes left in in the 4th quarter on the Steelers 12, at the minimum it was a FG attempt on an OT game. In the first quarter also, James Harrison forced a fumble on Lee Evans at the Steelers 31 that Troy recovered (give him a break, he couldn't do EVERYTHING).
  4. Week 12 vs. Baltimore Ravens: It was the biggest game of the season for both teams and it arguably put the Steelers in the Super Bowl just as much as the 2008 pick 6 when the Ravens had a 10-6 lead with 3:22 left. Troy lined came up to the line of scrimmage and Flacco checked him, but when Flacco turned his head Troy relocated and went behind Woodley. Flacco lost sight of #43 and in probably Troy's second greatest play, he tomahawk chopped Flacco, forcing the fumble that Woodley recovered and Ben finished with a TD on a most improbable come from behind win.
  5. Week 13 vs. Cincinnati Bengals: The offense was struggling again -- recurring theme in 2010 and in the ultimate win/lose play of the year, Troy intercepted Palmer and took it back 45 yards for the TD that began to separate the Steelers from the Bengals -- ultimately the Steelers lost in the long run as Troy injured his Achilles and would not be the same the rest of the year, even though he did get another INT that ended up resulting in a FG.
That Achilles injury cost the Steelers Super Bowl XLV -- Troy was playing the best football of his career, but it was obvious after that injury he was 75%.....at best. Polamalu was simply the difference maker.a 100% Troy in the Super Bowl vs. the Packers and he's capable of making any play at any time, setting up a TD or preventing one. The Steelers were that close from having two dynasties in the Super Bowl era

Troy Polamalu's greatest moments and more:
  • 2008 AFC Championship Game: He sealed the Steelers onto the road for Lombardi #6. Simple as it gets.
  • 2010 vs. Baltimore Ravens: The tomahawk strip sack won the division and the #2 seed, put the team in position to get to Super Bowl XLV.
  • 2005 vs. Indianapolis Colts Divisional Round: We all know of the overturned INT (probably should have been taken in for a score if he didn't knock it out of his own hands. But even after when the Colts got the ball back just before the fumble and the tackle by Ben, we got to Peyton Manning for several sacks. Watch it again if you have the DVD of the game and watch how when Troy approached the line of scrimmage, the Colts OL went into complete disarray and had no idea how to account for blocking him. Next thing you know, Two Colts were blocking Troy and Joey Porter was making a line straight for Manning
  • 2005 AFC Championship: Steelers are dominating the game at 24-3 and deep in their own territory on a 3rd and 10 from their own 3 yard line, Plummer completes a screen pass to Mike Anderson to get a little room to punt. The play results in -2 yards, darn near a safety as it is the first (and not the last) that I recall Troy making that play from out of nowhere -- anticipating it and making the tackle at full speed. It's a play that becomes routine for him that is not routine for anyone else.
  • 2004: Troy has his first pick 6 of his career, a spectacular interception return where he made half the Bengals miss and one of them isn't Carson Palmer -- he doesn't miss, he's standing at the goal line as Troy runs him right over for a TD. Troy would have 5 interceptions in his 2nd season
Troy's first season as a Starter -- difference from 2003 to 2004 --- no wonder they went 15-1
  • Total defense improves from 9th overall to 1st overall
  • Scoring defense improves from 15th overall to 1st overall
  • Rushing defense improves from 12th overall to 1st overall
  • Pass defense improves from 11th overall to 4th overall.

The ultimate legacy and the 1 forgotten game that started it all
It's impossible to put into words the real impact of the greatness of the Steelers Defense starting in 2004 and running through Troy's best years -- a video tribute would be far more effective because the impact and visual of what he did made even the casual fan notice with the hair flowing. Even fans of other teams can find things to say about Troy with any legitimacy -- of course there are trolls and everyone knows who they are, jealous being top of list. Ultimately Polamalu went from hopeful pick to star in 2004, from star to potential Hall of Fame by 2005, to definite Hall of Fame in 2008 and first Ballot by 2010 -- he is among the top 3 Steelers DBs of all time along with Woodson and Blount; meaning so much to the organization that they simply did not want to release him, they wanted him to retire in the Black and Gold so that #43 would one day be retired -- it certainly won't be worn by anyone else. But digest this regular season morsel.
  • 2004 in the game vs. Miami after the hurricane when Ben Roethlisberger got his first start and win throwing his first TD pass as a starter and Troy had his first interception in the same game -- That was the start of the 2004-2011 mini-dynasty with the 2 best players of this generation of Pittsburgh Steelers and the two most likely 1st ballot Hall of Famers
 
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As I sit here thinking about these guys I am thinking of many plays that each of them made but I will have to look back into history to try and remember some of the earlier plays from each of these guys, it might be easier to remember if their careers were shorter and did not have so many nice plays in them.
 
Ike Taylor; Ike really intrigued me as he was from a small school and played only 1 year at corner; but his combination of size & speed was really that of a 1st round pick & I was genuinely excited about his potential, I really thought we had a steal and we did.
  • For the record, I also had same logic about Ricardo Colcough and thought we had a game changer with him too. Just saying!
The Situation
It's not exactly breaking news that our secondary is an area of concern; on paper it looks the weakest than it has been since 2002; the year where personally I felt more confident facing a 3rd and inches vs a 3rd and 15, at least the defense could stop the short yardage. Anyone else remember how the Patriots and Raiders came out throwing, essentially abandoning even the appearance of attempting to run the ball, "Ron Mexico" threw it 45 times and almost cracked 300 yards and the funniest part was how the Browns and their fan-base were stupid enough to think that Kelly Holcomb was their QB of the future because of his 400 yard passing day in a playoff loss.

Ike's Career snapshot:
Ike simply was NOT a play-maker, but he was a player, The man had 14 interceptions over a 12 year career with only 1 returned for a TD; William Gay had 3 pick-6's last year alone, but that is well past 3 standard deviations from the norm. And take for comparison the best ever in Rod Woodson who had 71 interceptions along with 12 defensive TDs from INTs. Taylor simply did not have the anticipation or instinct that his more celebrated ex-Steeler did. What made Woodson the greatest ever though was the all around game, he was great in coverage and vs. the run -- and that was Ike Taylor, he made a career out of simply playing within himself and taking the opponents best WR altogether and while he certainly did not cover them and completely shut them down like a Deion Sanders -- more times it would be like what he did in the 2005 Super Bowl run, there were catches, there were mild numbers, but they just did not happen in situations where they made a difference:
  1. Chad Johnson -- 4 catches 59 yards, no TD
  2. Marvin Harrison - 3 catches 52 yards, no TD
  3. Rod Smith - 4 catches 61 yards, no TD
  4. Darrell Jackson -- 5 catches 50 yards, no TD (and not one catch after in final 3 quarters)
FSF Legacy Take on Ike Taylor
There are two things I really will take on Ike:
  1. Penthouse to Doghouse to Penthouse: Ike made it to being a full time starter for the Super Bowl Championship team in 2005 but he regressed backwards in 2006 after signing a contract extension and was benched, going into Cowher's doghouse. His career could have gone either way from there, but fortunately for us Taylor got it back on track in 2007 under Tomlin and he would go on to own that starting position the rest of his career (or at least till last year's gruesome injury) on what would be the best defense in football from 2007-2011.
  2. Chad Johnson's "List": The term swagger was used and associated with Ike Taylor -- but you never saw him draw attention to himself; but Chad Johnson was an outright attention *****; not just the TD celebrations where he actually believed fans would turn a game on to watch his antics. Johnson created a "list" of the teams and the CBs that he would matched up against and would mark off who "won" the match up -- and the loud mouthed idiot was extremely quiet after facing Taylor ==> The WR who was a 2x All Pro and 6x Pro Bowler averaged had 40 catches for 628 yards in 8 games and 4 TDs vs. the Steelers before Taylor became the starter -- in those 13 games (including playoff game) he had only 51 receptions for 628 yards and only 1 TD. Wonder if he thought he "won" those match ups?
Ike Taylor's best moment as a Steeler & the forgotten Interception
  • Similar to Troy Polamalu's INT in the 2008 AFC Championship; Ike Taylor will be forever linked to the 4th quarter INT in Super Bowl XL that led to Ward clinching the game winning TD catch, So rather than go with the obvious, I'm going to suggest a different play that flew under the radar. It seems so forgotten now, the sting of the losses in the 1994, 1997, 2001 and 2004 AFC Championship losses at home; and even the 1995 AFC Championship vs. the Colts was rather too close for comfort. Those AFC Championship losses stung really hard, especially in the nature of how they lost in ugly fashion those games they absolutely should have won -- 4 losses out of 5 games with the Super Bowl on the line at home, there was a rather huge elephant in the room.
  • When Bettis scored at the 2 minute warning to put us up 17-3, it all happened so fast, The irony of the situation was too much to ignore, in 1997 the two teams faced off in Pittsburgh for the same stakes with one team having an unstable QB and the other having a Hall of Fame level QB wearing #7, it all happened so fast that no one ever seems to credit Ike Taylor for what was, at the time, the biggest interception of Taylor's young career. I know that everyone in the room would have been happy with a FG and the TD that was unexpected thanks to that Ike Taylor INT. They key to it was this -- we all were finally realizing that something we've maybe taken for granted because the Steelers have won 3 out of 3 straight AFC Championship Games....at the time another AFC Championship loss would have been ugly to take; but we all felt a little different at the half up 24-3. With our defense and and the Bettis and Parker combo, we just knew it was a matter of 30 minutes to FINALLY get back over that hump. It was a relatively stress free 2nd half AFC Championship on the road.....great feeling!

Favorite Regular Season Memory
  1. Runner up -- 2008 vs. Dallas Cowboys. There were some exciting games during that regular season to be sure; but the most hyped regular season game bar none was the Steelers vs. the Cowboys because its ESPN and its the Cowboys. The game was sealed by DeShea Townsend I know but the Steelers first points came courtesy of Ike Taylor picking off Tony Romo right before the end of the first half; it led to a FG (typical of the 2008 Steelers offense) and Owens got a TD catch, but only 3 total for 32 yards and as I recall, it was a tough catch. Simply put; a normal Ike Taylor performance.
  2. 2007 vs. Seattle: With all the bitching moaning and crying by Seattle fans about the officiating in Super Bowl XL -- not only the penalties "shouldn't have been called" but they also "assume" a win? They were the highest scoring team in the NFL and the only TD they managed was a gift wrapped INT return that if Ben just relaxed and did what he would do with eyes shut today and put air under it the game would have been a blowout in the 3rd. The Steelers and Seahawks have played 2 regular season games since that Super Bowl the Steelers have won both with combined score of 45-0. More particularly, I recall Matt Hasselbeck making a derogatory smart *** remark about Ben Roethlisberger playing like a girl; while I get maybe Big Ben isn't popular, the bitter losing QB said it at a fantasy camp, I particularly loved how the at the end of the 1st half and down 7-0 with 10 seconds remaining, the Seahawsk went for the TD instead of points. Ike picked off Hasselbeck in the end zone and the Seahawks would not threaten to score since.


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Someone on facebook made this -- actually (Photo Credit - Matthew Solo)

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Thought you guys might like to see it ..
 
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solid write-up FSF
 
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When I have the time; I'll finish with memories of Kiesel.

Anyone else have memories of your own that stick out and are special
 
I remember in Pola's rookie year, we were playing the rams and he reads the pass perfectly and jumps in front of the receiver (Tori Holt if I recall). I don't know how it happened, but the ball somehow went through Pola's breadbasket and strait to Holt, who turned and ran for a TD. I can remember watching the replay thinking there was no way that ball could get through, but it did. After that moment, I can recall a lot of plays the Polamalu made that you'd have to replay, because you couldn't believe he made it! I do also like the strip sack/ fumble recovery/ TD run agianst Farve to seal the game. My favorite plays were Troy jumping the LOS at the snap count to disrupt the play.

Last year, It may have been against TB but I'm not positive, Troy jumps the LOS on the extra point trying to block it, and did it twice! He didn't time it correctly, but damn it was cool to watch him hurdle the players on the LOS to attempt a block!
 
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Has Keisel officially retired?
 
Has Keisel officially retired?

I don't know that he announced it, but given his age and the length of time it will take to come back from his injury (November they say at earliest) think its safe to say his NFL career is over.
 
I remember in Pola's rookie year, we were playing the rams and he reads the pass perfectly and jumps in front of the receiver (Tori Holt if I recall). I don't know how it happened, but the ball somehow went through Pola's breadbasket and strait to Holt, who turned and ran for a TD. I can remember watching the replay thinking there was no way that ball could get through, but it did. After that moment, I can recall a lot of plays the Polamalu made that you'd have to replay, because you couldn't believe he made it! I do also like the strip sack/ fumble recovery/ TD run agianst Farve to seal the game. My favorite plays were Troy jumping the LOS at the snap count to disrupt the play.

Last year, It may have been against TB but I'm not positive, Troy jumps the LOS on the extra point trying to block it, and did it twice! He didn't time it correctly, but damn it was cool to watch him hurdle the players on the LOS to attempt a block!

Amazing, I thin we all remember that one play from his rookie year, does anyone remember another one! :) I actually cannot!!!!
 
The game I knew Troy would be a force was in 2004 vs. the Eagles, who were the sh!t hot NFC team at the time and ultimately finally got over the hump to go to the Super Bowl that year. The Steelers absolutely crushed Philly that day and central to the defensive effort was Polamalu hitting Terrell Owens with the impact of a nuclear explosion every time he would go over the middle. Wasn't that the game where Owens was so friggin' frustrated that it seemed Donovan McNabb was in dire need of a protective order while Owens kept following him up and down the sidelines, yammering on?
 
When I think of Troy, my favorite memory is him returning the INT for a TD in the AFC Championship vs. the Ravens. It was a beautiful thing!
 
I don't know that he announced it, but given his age and the length of time it will take to come back from his injury (November they say at earliest) think its safe to say his NFL career is over.

Thanks. Definitely a safe assumption, I just didn't know if it was official yet.
 
The moment in 2004,his 2nd season where we all realized this guy was going to be special.... His pick 6 of Carson Palmer and return where he juked, jived, and ultimately crushed Palmer to score the deciding TD! I get goosebumps remembering that game, heck that whole season!

Also was at the Titans game where jumped the line to make the stop at the goal line.
 
The interception against San Diego was unbelievable. I still can't believe it. An amazing play, for amazing player.
 
Thank you FSF !!!!! Your write up was amazing and reinforced a multitude of GREAT memories. Troy Polamlau was an incredible draft pick. Remember, he had cincussion issues coming out of college. Many here / there, thought the pick was waisted, on a cuncussed player. Hind sight is of coarse 20/20, but at the time..............
...........I'm just glad he was a STEELERs and contributed to the team glorious place, in the nfl. Somehow, some will try to victumize his place in the HOF. I see Troy as being to big for that, the "rog" and the cowboy beat writer, will need a biger army, cause TROY won't go down. (just like his ints return for a TD)


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I have to second Irons comments real good post, but the things it brings back were all the memories of what a reach it was because Troy was too short. There was a great discussion about how much of his height was made up of his head and how this made him actually shorter still. I am still on the verge of laughing out loud when I remember this.
 
The interception against San Diego was unbelievable. I still can't believe it. An amazing play, for amazing player.
The one-handed-falling-backwards interception vs the Titans.
 
The one-handed-falling-backwards interception vs the Titans.


I thought that was bechman????? You mean TROY was the original pioneer on that sort of catch ??? Fluck Bechman as the worlds greatest athlete as we had one 10years prior to that panty waist.


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