Put me in the Malcolm Brown camp

[Joey Porters Taint]

I'm rooting for the Steelers to pick Malcolm Brown.
I don't believe one of the top 3 corners will be available at 1.22
I don't believe one of the top 4 edge rushers will be available at 1.22
Brown has a chance to be there at 1.22
Corners are not the foundation of this defense.
Brown has position flexibility. Nose and 5 tech.
McClendon is in his final year of contract.
McClendon is often injured.
McCullers showed promise but isn't a starter.
You can use Brown in the rotation right away.

Lets hear it

 

[Wingman]

I'm rooting for the Steelers to pick Malcolm Brown.
I don't believe one of the top 3 corners will be available at 1.22
I don't believe one of the top 4 edge rushers will be available at 1.22
Brown has a chance to be there at 1.22
Corners are not the foundation of this defense.
Brown has position flexibility. Nose and 5 tech.
McClendon is in his final year of contract.
McClendon is often injured.
McCullers showed promise but isn't a starter.
You can use Brown in the rotation right away.

Lets hear it

We need a running back with the first round pick like we need to clone Goodell so we can have two commissioners. Are you nuckin futz?

 

[Wingman]

We need a running back with the first round pick like we need to clone Goodell so we can have two commissioners. Are you nuckin futz?

Or did google give me the wrong malcome brown?

 

[Wingman]

Please disregard the previous.....see below
The NFL and its teams, coaches and scouts will now have to worry about confusing Malcom Brown with Malcolm Brown.

After three years together in Austin as members of the Texas Longhorns, the defensive tackle and running back will be in the same draft class.

For Malcolm Brown (the running back), the senior would naturally be a part of the 2015 NFL draft class. However, the inclusion of Malcom Brown (the defensive tackle) wasn’t guaranteed.

 

[ark steel]

I'm rooting for the Steelers to pick Malcolm Brown.
I don't believe one of the top 3 corners will be available at 1.22
I don't believe one of the top 4 edge rushers will be available at 1.22
Brown has a chance to be there at 1.22
Corners are not the foundation of this defense.
Brown has position flexibility. Nose and 5 tech.
McClendon is in his final year of contract.
McClendon is often injured.
McCullers showed promise but isn't a starter.
You can use Brown in the rotation right away.

Lets hear it

As loathe as I am to agree with you, I'm leaning that way, too, for the same basic reasons. Probably, one of the top 3 DBs or top 4 edge rushers will be there, but not one I want to spend a 1.22 on. Maybe take the S from Alabama.

 

[Wingman]

It might be interesting to see what is there to be had, we could use 2 corners a safety and 2 linebackers a great O lineman for left tackle or left guard a tight end a back up running back a great nose tackle or another good defensive tackle one more wide out. That is more than the eight picks we have. So there is a good chance we will have value at every round of the draft when we pick except maybe the last couple. By value I mean guys that are actually going to be on the 53 man roster instead of the practice squad. I expect a down year as we might add three good players this year and be in a position to add 4 next year with higher selections.

I will not be upset with a down year because there are so many holes on defense and depending on what we end up with we might not be able to fill enough of them.

 

[Steeltime]

We need a running back with the first round pick like we need to clone Goodell so we can have two commissioners. Are you nuckin futz?

Okay, I gave karma to Wingman because he and I had the same brain cramp regarding Malcolm Brown.

 

[antdrewjosh]

I have no problem with that. OLB and NT are the most important pieces in a 3-4. The kid from Florida St deserves consideration too Goldman. Can play DE and NT also

 

[Wingman]

Okay, I gave karma to Wingman because he and I had the same brain cramp regarding Malcolm Brown.

Just goes to show you can't trust google those ********. In hindsight I did find it interesting that they were both teammates go figure.

 

[Steelers1356]

For those hoping we'll draft a NT in the first round, the night of April 30th is going to be a disappointing one.

 

[Slaine]

I think that Goldman would be another McLendon in our system - not right as a NT in our system from what I've seen. Certainly not as a high pick.

 

[Coach]

I'm rooting for the Steelers to pick Malcolm Brown.
I don't believe one of the top 3 corners will be available at 1.22
I don't believe one of the top 4 edge rushers will be available at 1.22
Brown has a chance to be there at 1.22
Corners are not the foundation of this defense.
Brown has position flexibility. Nose and 5 tech.
McClendon is in his final year of contract.
McClendon is often injured.
McCullers showed promise but isn't a starter.
You can use Brown in the rotation right away.

Lets hear it

If Gregory and Waynes are off the board, I think Brown is a fine option! Our 3-4 defense has never been good with average nose tackles. NT is a huge need. we gave up 4.4 yards per carry with an easy schedule in 2014, and have smaller than average ILB's who really are not good at taking on blockers and shedding them. Shazier in particular could shine with better NT play.

By the way Brown isn't just a run defender. He's has decent range, and some pass rushing skills too, which means he can upgrade our front four in the nickel defense. The Steelers play a lot of nickel.

The Steelers have drafted some fine DL players from Texas.

 

[ark steel]

For those hoping we'll draft a NT in the first round, the night of April 30th is going to be a disappointing one.

I'm not so much "hoping" as resigned that there isn't a CB or OLB left on the board that I think is worth it at 1.22.

 

[SteelerAl]

No ******* nose tackles, thank you. These guys are on the field 30% of the time, much less than a nickle cornerback. They are specialists and we have two of them.

 

[FordFairLane]

I agree with SteelerAl. I'd rather take a OT than a DT. McCullers showed a lot of promise IMHO but is still a project. McLendon I feel should be in on passing downs and McCullers on running downs. The only way I got DT is if Danny Shelton falls to us or gets close enough we can move up for him.

 

[Coach]

No ******* nose tackles, thank you. These guys are on the field 30% of the time, much less than a nickle cornerback. They are specialists and we have two of them.

AL,

The steelers play more nickel and dime than base 3-4. A NT who can add something as a pass rusher as Brown can will be on the filed way more than 30% of the time. More like 75% of the snaps as he's in there for the 3-4, and the 4 man rush on nickel and sometimes dime.

 

[SteelerAl]

AL,

The steelers play more nickel and dime than base 3-4. A NT who can add something as a pass rusher as Brown can will be on the filed way more than 30% of the time. More like 75% of the snaps as he's in there for the 3-4, and the 4 man rush on nickel and sometimes dime.

You don't know what you're talking about, dude. First of all, McLendon is an NT who can add something as a push rusher yet he's never on the field on 3rd downs. So what exactly would Brown do other than take Tuitt or Heyward off the field since those two play inside (defensive tackle) when we move to nickel (4-2-5) and dime (4-1-6) defenses and we put the two OLBs at the DE position.

 

[Coach]

Coach says: AL,

The steelers play more nickel and dime than base 3-4. A NT who can add something as a pass rusher as Brown can will be on the filed way more than 30% of the time. More like 75% of the snaps as he's in there for the 3-4, and the 4 man rush on nickel and sometimes dime.

You don't know what you're talking about, dude. First of all, McLendon is an NT who can add something as a push rusher yet he's never on the field on 3rd downs. So what exactly would Brown do other than take Tuitt or Heyward off the field since those two play inside (defensive tackle) when we move to nickel (4-2-5) and dime (4-1-6) defenses and we put the two OLBs at the DE position.

Al,

McClendon started 14 games in 2013, and 12 games in 2014. In these combined 26 games he had a grand total of 1 sack and zero passes deflected. He's adds next to nothing as a pass rusher. And he's a little injury prone if you look at the games he missed in the past two years. Want a bit more? He's a free agent in 2016.

If you look at Brown's production as a pass rusher on paper or on film, he's much better. Dude is disruptive with a burst toward the QB. This is very rare for a NT.

There is no rule that says Heyward or Tuitt can't play 4-3 END or DT in our four man rush. The way I see it Harrison is one end. I would take Heyward over J Jones for the other end.



http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McLeSt00.htm

 

[SteelerAl]

Coach says: AL,

The steelers play more nickel and dime than base 3-4. A NT who can add something as a pass rusher as Brown can will be on the filed way more than 30% of the time. More like 75% of the snaps as he's in there for the 3-4, and the 4 man rush on nickel and sometimes dime.




Al,

McClendon started 14 games in 2013, and 12 games in 2014. In these combined 26 games he had a grand total of 1 sack and zero passes deflected. He's adds next to nothing as a pass rusher. And he's a little injury prone if you look at the games he missed in the past two years. Want a bit more? He's a free agent in 2016.

If you look at Brown's production as a pass rusher on paper or on film, he's much better. Dude is disruptive with a burst toward the QB. This is very rare for a NT.

There is no rule that says Heyward or Tuitt can't play 4-3 END or DT in our four man rush. The way I see it Harrison is one end. I would take Heyward over J Jones for the other end.



http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McLeSt00.htm

Neither Heyward nor Tuitt can play the role of edge rusher. Our edge rushers need the speed to get around the edge and they also need to be able to drop back in pass coverage. The reason McLendon has only 1 sack is because HE IS NEVER ON THE FIELD IN PASSING SITUATIONS --- the same reason it would be a huge waste to draft a NT like Brown in round 1. I'm sorry but it would make no sense to put Brown, Tuitt and Heyward on the field in passing situations. It makes it easy for the offensive line --- they know 3 guys are definitely rushing, not dropping and all 3 of relatively immobile, interior DL types not edge rushers.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

If they drafted Brown they could roll out the following in passing situations. From everything I've read, he's pretty adept at collapsing the pocket.

Heyward .... Brown ...... one of the Mc's ....... Tuitt

Shazier ........................Williams/Jones/Timmons .................Timmons/Jones

 

[Wingman]

If they drafted Brown they could roll out the following in passing situations. From everything I've read, he's pretty adept at collapsing the pocket.

Heyward .... Brown ...... one of the Mc's ....... Tuitt

Shazier ........................Williams/Jones/Timmons .................Timmons/Jones

How about this instead

Heyward....Brown....Mac....Tuitt

Shasier......Timmons....................Harrison Send five till Harrison gets tired then put in Spence leave jj someplace like the mall.

 

[SteelBuckeye]

How about this instead

Heyward....Brown....Mac....Tuitt

Shasier......Timmons....................Harrison Send five till Harrison gets tired then put in Spence leave jj someplace like the mall.

That's a good one too. I was basically saying that drafting Brown at 1:22 doesn't necessarily mean they are getting a guy who is only a 3-4 NT and can't be out there on passing downs. The kid did have 6.5 sacks last year and his draft profiles that I've read all state that he can and does collapse the pocket on passing downs.