Post your dream mock draft, with these liberal rules

[Coach]

Rules:

For rounds 1-3, you have to pick a player near our pick at the follow mock draft

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015reader.php


1 ) OLB Gregory. Could be a star pass rusher. If drafted by the Steelers I'd be elated. His film is outstanding. Sky-high potential.

2 ) CB Peters. An ideal cover 2 type of corner with good size, and elite level ball skills.

3 ) OLB Orchard. I love his guys production at the senior bowl, stats, effort, and stamina.

4 ) DB Grant. Could be a speedy FS type or slot corner. Not sure why he's been ranked as low on web mocks.

5 ) OT/G Donnall. A swing player at OG/OT, or new starter at guard if Foster can not be re-signed for cheap is needed.

 

[FSF]

Honestly, I am far from an expert, but I don't see anyone in this draft that excites me to be a Steeler. In fact, at least in top rounds, I find it to be underwhelming for everyone. Have a feeling most people will be disappointed --- not just Steelers fans.

 

[Coach]

Honestly, I am far from an expert, but I don't see anyone in this draft that excites me to be a Steeler. In fact, at least in top rounds, I find it to be underwhelming for everyone. Have a feeling most people will be disappointed --- not just Steelers fans.

The draft is always hyped. I think this is a poor draft overall. The Qb's, TE's, and DB's as a group are weak. I think the OL unit is very over rated.

What's underrated? RB. I also think there are a good amount of DL and pass rushers.

Having said that every draft has its share of blue chip talent. We need some of it.

 

[FordFairLane]

RD1 Randy Gregory OLB Nebraska
He could go top 5 and he could fall out of the first. I am sure some have dropped him pretty far down their board because of character the question is when and who takes that chance. He has the ability to be an elite pass rusher and right now we need that more than anything (IMHO).

RD2- TJ Clemmings OT Pitt
Right now we have DeCastro, Beachum, Foster and even Adams to worry about contract wise. Clemmings has LT potential but played RT at Pitt. Could be a dropper in the draft if someone doesn't fall for his physical potential.

RD3- PJ Williams CB FSU
Again, another bonehead move getting a DUI before the draft. He could fall further than this because he isn't a dominant CB just has a very high floor. But I feel he'd come in and probably start on our team.

RD4- Nick O'Leary TE FSU
Watch his tape and he is always open and has soft hands. I think being short and slower than desired he will fall, maybe to 5th, but guy is a baller so don't sleep on him.

RD5- David Johnson RB Northern Iowa
Personally I have him as my third rated RB. I feel he is a north south one cut and plants his foot type of back and has some wheels.

RD6a- Lynden Trail DL Norfolk St
Very intriguing prospect with tons of athleticism but played against much weaker competition. A guy you want to get into camp and see what you can do with him.

RD6b- Miles Dieffenbach OG Penn St
Miles suffered a leg injury that hampered his 2014 season. If you watch him n 2013 looks like a round 3 OG so I am drafting him late hoping that is who comes to camp.

RD7- DeAndre Smelter WR GT
Love his hands and ability after the catch. Again he got hurt late so you can only watch tape but he is a guy you get into camp get your trainers working with him and get a playbook in his hands. Put him on the PUP list and see what you have later in the season.

 

[ZACKB]

I don't think Gregory falls, but I would love this scenario

1. Dupree
2. PJ Williams- No way he makes it to rd 3. DUI is only red flag, and it's so minor.
3. Slot cb or another Edge Rusher

RD1 Randy Gregory OLB Nebraska
He could go top 5 and he could fall out of the first. I am sure some have dropped him pretty far down their board because of character the question is when and who takes that chance. He has the ability to be an elite pass rusher and right now we need that more than anything (IMHO).

RD2- TJ Clemmings OT Pitt
Right now we have DeCastro, Beachum, Foster and even Adams to worry about contract wise. Clemmings has LT potential but played RT at Pitt. Could be a dropper in the draft if someone doesn't fall for his physical potential.

RD3- PJ Williams CB FSU
Again, another bonehead move getting a DUI before the draft. He could fall further than this because he isn't a dominant CB just has a very high floor. But I feel he'd come in and probably start on our team.

RD4- Nick O'Leary TE FSU
Watch his tape and he is always open and has soft hands. I think being short and slower than desired he will fall, maybe to 5th, but guy is a baller so don't sleep on him.

RD5- David Johnson RB Northern Iowa
Personally I have him as my third rated RB. I feel he is a north south one cut and plants his foot type of back and has some wheels.

RD6a- Lynden Trail DL Norfolk St
Very intriguing prospect with tons of athleticism but played against much weaker competition. A guy you want to get into camp and see what you can do with him.

RD6b- Miles Dieffenbach OG Penn St
Miles suffered a leg injury that hampered his 2014 season. If you watch him n 2013 looks like a round 3 OG so I am drafting him late hoping that is who comes to camp.

RD7- DeAndre Smelter WR GT
Love his hands and ability after the catch. Again he got hurt late so you can only watch tape but he is a guy you get into camp get your trainers working with him and get a playbook in his hands. Put him on the PUP list and see what you have later in the season.

 

[Coach]

I'm not a fan of PJ Williams. He's on the slow side ( 4.57 forty is slow for a corner I use combine times, not pro days ) , did not make many plays on the ball, but gave up many of them. And he's contact prone down the field. I do not want him unless its round three and we have not selected a corner.

 

[FSF]

The draft is always hyped. I think this is a poor draft overall. The Qb's, TE's, and DB's as a group are weak. I think the OL unit is very over rated.

What's underrated? RB. I also think there are a good amount of DL and pass rushers.

Having said that every draft has its share of blue chip talent. We need some of it.

Taken with a grain of salt....most "experts" and I used that term loosely say this draft is a weak first round, stronger rounds 3-6. says to me a lot of draft day busts for lot of teams

 

[Joey Porters Taint]

I'm not a fan of PJ Williams. He's on the slow side ( 4.57 forty is slow for a corner I use combine times, not pro days ) , did not make many plays on the ball, but gave up many of them. And he's contact prone down the field. I do not want him unless its round three and we have not selected a corner.

You just described Kevin Johnson. And he's 20 lbs lighter and comes from a smaller school then pj Williams.

 

[Tibs]

Round 1: Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE/OLB, UCLA
Round 2: Alex Carter, CB, Stanford
Round 3: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M
Round 4: Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State
Round 5: Justin Cox, CB, Mississippi State
Round 6a: Clayton Geathers, S, Central Florida
Round 6b: Jesse James, TE, Penn State
Round 7: Frank Clark, DE/OLB, Michigan

 

[Coach]

You just described Kevin Johnson. And he's 20 lbs lighter and comes from a smaller school then pj Williams.

Yes and no. Kevin Johnson has very quick feet, and changes / accelerates like a champ. His 20 yard shuffle ( agility drill ) was even better than Rod Woodson's and that's saying a lot. And he made 7 INT's in college.

This to me says he has value as a cover corner and can make plays on the ball.

Many mocks think Johnson is our pick. I'd be okay with it depending who was on the board.

 

[deljzc]

A couple more positions and I'm almost ready to do this.

I agree if Gregory falls, that's probably my ideal pick but I really, really doubt it. There are risks with all the other OLB prospect in my opinion (not as much as Jarvis Jones, but risks). The only other worthwhile round 1 players look to be the other OLB's and the WR's (Strong or Perriman). I really think those are the only BPA options for us. Maybe Skelton/Brown as an athletic NT.

Peters in round 2 would be a great selection if you aren't already pushing the off-field issues with Gregory in the first. Not sure the local media would accept or let it go if the Steelers just picked every questionable apple that falls because of off-field issues. Not the Rooney/Colbert/Tomlin way. One or two is fine in a draft just not sure it can be round 1 and 2.
Other round 2 options for me: Coates/Agholor (WR).
Based on my board I think we get a bit screwed with value with our round 2 pick. I just don't see a lot of value selections likely being available. Might have to force best CB available even if I don't really see value there (Johnson, Darby, Smith, Rowe, Nelson, Ekpre-Olomu).


If Ogbuehi's knee really drops him into round 3, I jump all over that. If we pick him it completely changes my negotiations with Beachum (in fact I might just let Beachum walk).
Another round 3 guy I'm liking after my safety review is Ibraheim Campbell. I really liked his tape as a versatile safety (can play both).


Round 4 I can dream and maybe Lorenzo Mauldin is there? Does his 4.85 40-yard dash drop him that far? I would strongly consider him in round 3 if the first round doesn't yield an OLB.
I think Laurence Gibson or Darryl Baldwin are both up-and-coming LT prospects that are worthwhile round 4 selections.
Another round 4 guy might be Henry Anderson. I wasn't overly impressed with his tape, but he's a solid prospect at DE.

 

[freak]

i was too lazy to follow the walter football i just used the first pick engine without any trade

i would be happy with this selection of players
Round 1 Pick 22: Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (B-)
Round 2 Pick 24: Ibraheim Campbell, SS, Northwestern (A-)
Round 3 Pick 23: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A-)
Round 4 Pick 22: Markus Golden, OLB/ILB, Missouri (B-)
Round 5 Pick 24: Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Derrick Lott, DT, Chattanooga (B+)
Round 6 Pick 36 (COMP): Matt Jones, RB, Florida (A+)
Round 7 Pick 22: Dres Anderson, WR, Utah (A+)

 

[Slaine]

Rules:

For rounds 1-3, you have to pick a player near our pick at the follow mock draft

http://walterfootball.com/draft2015reader.php

1 ) OLB Gregory.

So you pick the guy who goes at no.8 overall to Atlanta? How is that near to our pick?

With them picking down to #20 so far I think my choice would be Jalen Collins, CB, LSU. The problem is at this stage beauty is in teh eye of the beholder. Guys at #22 are probably on a par with guys down to #40 so it's tough to predict who goes where.

 

[F83]

1 CB Marcus Peters
2 OLB Nate Orchard
3 S Anthony Harris
4 CB Doran Grant
5 DE/OLB Za'darius Smith
6 A DT Chris Covington
6 B TE Nick O Learly
7 P Kyle Loomis

 

[ark steel]

So you pick the guy who goes at no.8 overall to Atlanta? How is that near to our pick?

With them picking down to #20 so far I think my choice would be Jalen Collins, CB, LSU. The problem is at this stage beauty is in teh eye of the beholder. Guys at #22 are probably on a par with guys down to #40 so it's tough to predict who goes where.

That link is to a WF Reader Mock and, I think, it has probably, changed since the original post. When I just clicked on it, they were still at Cin.

 

[Coach]

That link is to a WF Reader Mock and, I think, it has probably, changed since the original post. When I just clicked on it, they were still at Cin.

Yes it changed since the original post.

 

[Coach]

A couple more positions and I'm almost ready to do this.

I agree if Gregory falls, that's probably my ideal pick but I really, really doubt it. There are risks with all the other OLB prospect in my opinion (not as much as Jarvis Jones, but risks). The only other worthwhile round 1 players look to be the other OLB's and the WR's (Strong or Perriman). I really think those are the only BPA options for us. Maybe Skelton/Brown as an athletic NT.

Peters in round 2 would be a great selection if you aren't already pushing the off-field issues with Gregory in the first. Not sure the local media would accept or let it go if the Steelers just picked every questionable apple that falls because of off-field issues. Not the Rooney/Colbert/Tomlin way. One or two is fine in a draft just not sure it can be round 1 and 2.
Other round 2 options for me: Coates/Agholor (WR).
Based on my board I think we get a bit screwed with value with our round 2 pick. I just don't see a lot of value selections likely being available. Might have to force best CB available even if I don't really see value there (Johnson, Darby, Smith, Rowe, Nelson, Ekpre-Olomu).


If Ogbuehi's knee really drops him into round 3, I jump all over that. If we pick him it completely changes my negotiations with Beachum (in fact I might just let Beachum walk).
Another round 3 guy I'm liking after my safety review is Ibraheim Campbell. I really liked his tape as a versatile safety (can play both).


Round 4 I can dream and maybe Lorenzo Mauldin is there? Does his 4.85 40-yard dash drop him that far? I would strongly consider him in round 3 if the first round doesn't yield an OLB.
I think Laurence Gibson or Darryl Baldwin are both up-and-coming LT prospects that are worthwhile round 4 selections.
Another round 4 guy might be Henry Anderson. I wasn't overly impressed with his tape, but he's a solid prospect at DE.

The Steelers have not shied away from players with character issues. Burress has red flags. Holmes has some too. In recent drafts Rainey and Mike Adams had some red flags.

What's your take on Nate Orcahrd? I saw his practices and game at the senior bowl and came away impressed. His run defense looked good to me, and that's the knock on him.

My goal is to match NEEDS with the BPA in the early rounds.

 

[Wingman]

Round 1: Owamagbe Odighizuwa, DE/OLB, UCLA
Round 2: Alex Carter, CB, Stanford
Round 3: Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M
Round 4: Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State
Round 5: Justin Cox, CB, Mississippi State
Round 6a: Clayton Geathers, S, Central Florida
Round 6b: Jesse James, TE, Penn State
Round 7: Frank Clark, DE/OLB, Michigan

Tibs I like your picks just for the sparq scores on pass rushers I think both of those guys will become good and getting the second guy in the 7th round would be great.

 

[Slaine]

Sorry Coach - thought that was something of a reach!

And Tibs, the UCLA guy looks great but he did have a very solid prospect opposite him which makes me wonder just how good he really would be if was being doubled like a Vic Beasley often was.

 

[Tibs]

And Tibs, the UCLA guy looks great but he did have a very solid prospect opposite him which makes me wonder just how good he really would be if was being doubled like a Vic Beasley often was.

Agreed. I'm basically looking at other options if those top edge rushers are off the board by 22. Owa Diggy has plenty of question marks, but seems to be the best-of-the-rest at this point. Colbert also loves to draft juniors in the first round, which is another strike against him...

Tibs I like your picks just for the sparq scores on pass rushers I think both of those guys will become good and getting the second guy in the 7th round would be great.

Yeah it would be great to double-up on some talent at OLB. Frank Clark is a real darkhorse, as he's in the top 4-5 with the sparq #'s, but has some off field issues which may push him a long way down the draft board. At the same time, I've read elsewhere he may go as early as round 3-4. I just hope the Steelers can uncover as much talent as possible, in this transition year with so many vets going wayside...

I'll also add my yearly reminder - check yer head - that the Steelers rarely pick players based on the various boards that are floating out there pre-draft. They tend to pick guys much earlier than where they may be ranked by the draft gurus. Also, there is so much mystery, as is the case every year, on where their priorities are? How do they view this crop of safeties and tight ends? Are there some darkhorse players that we're not even considering at this point, that they're really high on?... and so on... that's what I love most about the Steelers' drafts, there's a good chance we'll be left scratching our heads on multiple picks and players....

 

[Wingman]

Tibs your last paragraph really sums up some of the steelers drafts. I am hopeful regarding the edge rushers and Sparq scores. Last year they ran up for Shazier who just maxed the sparq scores, maybe they decide to try owa in the first if he drops to us, I am hopeful that a change has taken place. But I am thinking that when pick 22 roles around we have a major WTF moment when they pick an undersized underpowered outside linebacker that becomes Jarvis 2.0.

 

[Slaine]

there's a good chance we'll be left scratching our heads on multiple picks and players....

Ain't that the truth!