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Peter King tears the Steelers a new one

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The Steelers are damaged. In many ways:

1. Getting third-round and fifth-round picks (66th and 141st) for the best receiver in football over the past six years is absurd.

“When I saw the compensation this morning,” ex-Steeler Ryan Clark said Sunday evening, “I was shocked. This is the best receiver in football over the last six years. Oakland had the draft capital to pay a fair price for Antonio.” Credit to Raiders negotiator and new GM Mike Mayock for taking a hard line on the trade, but think of this compensation. Put together, the value isn’t even of a top 50 draft choice. That’s awful.

2. The $21.1 million in dead 2019 cap money by trading Brown—11.2 percent of the Pittsburgh salary cap—is a paralyzing effect on the Steelers, obviously.

3. Two straight years, two mega-stars slap the Steelers in the face. Pittsburgh couldn’t find a way to make Le’Veon Bell play in 2018, and 2019 is off to a terrible start with the Brown subtraction. I asked Clark what he thought the moral of the story was. “Never be held captive by a player,” said Clark, now an ESPN analyst. “The limbo of Le’Veon Bell, in an organization that prides itself on being drama-free, played a role in the Antonio story. They just didn’t want another year of that.”

4. Mike Tomlin takes a big hit. Great coaches have to find a way to handle big and divisive personalities, and Brown drove a wedge into Tomlin’s team, and Tomlin couldn’t stop it. Tomlin’s going to have to examine how he handled Brown over the years, and be sure he doesn’t make the same mistakes with the next angry star—even if that means letting the guy walk before he can do the damage Brown did.

5. Two years ago, you could argue the Steelers had the best back in football and the best receiver in football, playing at their peaks. What do they have to show for that? For Bell, nothing for now—though they could get a Compensatory Pick in 2020 for him depending on their activity in free agency this spring. For Brown, two mid-round draft choices, and a $21-million anchor on their cap. Not good. Not good at all.

For one of the flagship franchises in the NFL, this has been an ugly last half-year.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...fl-free-agency-fmia-peter-king/?cid=rotoworld
 
4. Mike Tomlin takes a big hit. Great coaches have to find a way to handle big and divisive personalities, and Brown drove a wedge into Tomlin’s team, and Tomlin couldn’t stop it. Tomlin’s going to have to examine how he handled Brown over the years, and be sure he doesn’t make the same mistakes with the next angry star—even if that means letting the guy walk before he can do the damage Brown did.
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Another talking head dancing around the 400 lb. gorilla. The damage is done, nothing Shades can do going forward will stop the next seismic talent from taking advantage of him or Colbert and most certainly the douce. Do I miss either of them, nah. I miss Art and Dan and Chuck and Bill. Could always count on the franchise being run properly and next year was gonna be great. Does anyone on this board really feel next year we're gonna be great right now?
 
But Peter, you told us Brown was being traded for a first round pick. What hurts is he's right on many points. The silver lining? We just got a lot of cap space back for 2020 and 2021, correct?
 
This sums up what I've been thinking the last couple days.

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Actually, keep the piling on Make that a Mt. Everest size chip on these guys shoulders for next season.
 
Frosty said:
Actually, keep the piling on Make that a Mt. Everest size chip on these guys shoulders for next season.
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We know they actually do something with their proverbial back against the wall, so yeah, let's go with that.
 
And nothing will change in Pittsburgh. Tomlin will still get another contract extension. It may not be this offseason but it's coming.
 
The current Steelers management from ownership to the general manager and coach is a complete mess.

They lack competency and they lack courage.

This organization is now run by amateurs. Sorry Art II, but so far you have been a stain on the legacy of your father and your grandfather.
 
maowv said:
The current Steelers management from ownership to the general manager and coach is a complete mess.

They lack competency and they lack courage.

This organization is now run by amateurs. Sorry Art II, but so far you have been a stain on the legacy of your father and your grandfather.
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Art Senior wasn't all that great a football guy. Great gentlemen, but not a football guy.

We all know Dan Rooney was the football guy. He learned from Chuck Noll, who learned from Paul Brown. Dan and Chuck made the Steelers into Champions. Everyone loved Art Senior, but the dirty work was all done by Dan and Chuck. When young Cowher got here Dan taught him what Noll taught him.

Unfortunately, Art II just doesn't seem to get it. He's too politically correct. Too 2000's owner style. Too worried and involved in NFL business. Too much living off his Rooney name. He let a young Tomlin run the ship while he did his thing thinking this is what Dan did, but that's not true. Dan cultivated Cowher. Art II just let Tomlin drive the ship into the iceberg and he doesn't have a ******* clue how to fix it now. Tombert has been holding this franchise together with duct tape and chewing gum. I'm sure Art II has asked Tomlin many times about why the locker room seems totally ****** up, but Tomlin is a ******* snake oil salesman. He says he's got it under control. Colbert is a yes-man and always has been. Colbert has no balls. Never has.

The truth is Tomlin is a fraud. And Art II has been hoodwinked by the whole thing and lacks the fortitude, smarts or interest (like Dan would have) to nip it in the bud. Art was too buddy-buddy with the other owners and Roger Goodell and NFL business over the last decade to care. And Tomlin always won just enough to keep the boss off his back. The fans paying attention knew what was going on. We saw this a mile away. We saw all the signs that this was turning in Marvin Lewis and the Bengals. Now we have our Chad Johnson and selfish players and bad locker room and "who dey" fake coolness (with none of the winning to back it up).

Oh... Mr. Cool Shades is cool alright. He's a players coach. When the routs are on, boy do we love dancing it up, laughing, doing choreographed celebrations and having a great time. But those are fleeting and paper tiger emotions based on a flimsy house of cards that has consistently been easy to blow over when the going gets tough. We fans have seen this for a decade. Always complaining and getting shouted down by the politically correct fans that "That doesn't mean anything, they're just having a good time". It's bullshit I've had a tough time stomaching for a long time. Starting before Vick, during Vick and now into the "me, me movement of Brown and Bell (and how they changed for the worse WHILE they were here).

It's a joke. **** them all.
 
Peter King was right. They DID have a 1st round pick. They had the 9th pick sewn up. Sure they'd give up their 20, but they'd get an early 2nd round as well AND as I understand it a conditional in next years draft.

Brown torpedoed that for his own selfish gains. And when the CBA comes along and he's whining and bitching about how unfair the owners are being... He can suck it.
 
Steelers never should have said **** to Brown.... should have traded him and let the Bills deal with him not showing up
 
Skott said:
Steelers never should have said **** to Brown.... should have traded him and let the Bills deal with him not showing up
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Yeah the league has to get a handle on that ****. I'm sure the Bills wanted assurances and the only way was to involve AB. Should be "AB, you're going to Buffalo." and if he refuses, he's out of the league making a guaranteed big fat $0.00.
 
Has Ben said anything yet about AB leaving?

I find his silence...ominious
 
TDX27 said:
And nothing will change in Pittsburgh. Tomlin will still get another contract extension. It may not be this offseason but it's coming.
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You might want to take a front row seat for that one, SN and social media will be on fire.
 
I feel better when I think of it as we traded Brown and Bryant for 2 thirds and a fifth.
 
Spike said:
4. Mike Tomlin takes a big hit. Great coaches have to find a way to handle big and divisive personalities, and Brown drove a wedge into Tomlin’s team, and Tomlin couldn’t stop it. Tomlin’s going to have to examine how he handled Brown over the years, and be sure he doesn’t make the same mistakes with the next angry star—even if that means letting the guy walk before he can do the damage Brown did.

5. Two years ago, you could argue the Steelers had the best back in football and the best receiver in football, playing at their peaks. What do they have to show for that?
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Tomlin is in miles over his head. He demonstrates over and over that not only does he not understand the game, or that talent needs to be developed, let alone how to develop that talent, but that he is incapable of the job he was brought in to do - manage highly compensated, perilously immature, mercurial narcissists that imagine their value to be well beyond their contribution. If he could do that alone, he might contribute some value.

The answer to #5 is nothing. But that nothing is a subset of the Tomlin administration - storied franchise, ridiculous talent, adoring fan base, everything set up to make a young man a living legend. Three straight heaters over the plate. Blank stare. Nothing. Ain't got it.

I'll take a risk here. Y'know why Belichick is a great coach? And he is - it isn't arguable. First, he learned the game from the ground up. He coached a lot of positions and developed a lot of talent. He took a lot of losses but he adjusted and developed a winning formula. The people that work for him know their jobs and regardless of their own talent level, they do their jobs. He's a lot like Noll was - a teacher. His people are schooled, they know their assignments and they execute. That defense, average in every way with so-so talent held an offense that scored 527 points in 2018 to 3 points, and shut them out for 3 quarters in the last SB. Plan. Scheme. Everybody did their jobs. That wouldn't have happened had our heroes faced the Rams. Belichick does this robotically year after year. Doesn't matter who the players are - rookies, old stalwarts, cast offs, they're all schooled, they execute.

Tomlin doesn't have that. Never will.

Bash away.
 
Skott said:
Steelers never should have said **** to Brown (from day one, this was handled wrong).... should have traded him and let the Bills deal with him not showing up
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Problem is the BILLS looked out for themselves and checked #shit4brains and found out how ****** up diva he really was............... they pulled away faster then a speeding bullet.!!!!

can't blame the Bills for that but you can blame the #shit4brains diva.



Salute the nation
 
Steelers getting raked over the coals for total mismanagement of the whole situation




Antonio Brown deal a disaster for Steelers


The Pittsburgh Steelers allowed Antonio Brown to abandon his team, talk his way out of town, sabotage his trade value and still end up with a new contract that makes him the NFL’s highest-paid wide receiver with $30 million guaranteed.

For their troubles, the Steelers got the equivalent of Martavis Bryant and Ryan Switzer from the Oakland Raiders in what will go down as not just a terrible trade but an NFL cautionary tale on how not to handle contract and trade negotiations with high-end talent.

That all the Steelers could manage was third- and fifth-round picks in return for a seven-time Pro Bowl and four-time All-Pro wide receiver who was good for a minimum of 100 receptions, 1,200 yards and eight touchdowns the past six seasons makes the deal look like a disaster.

Everyone from team president Art Rooney II to general manager Kevin Colbert to coach Mike Tomlin has to be embarrassed for how they were publicly played by Brown and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, in a deal where the Steelers were supposed to hold all of the leverage.

https://triblive.com/sports/kevin-gorman-antonio-brown-deal-a-disaster-for-steelers/
 
This seems like the kind of fiasco that gets people fired. If this had been WWII, we would all be speaking German. If this was gay porn, we would all be on the bottom.
 
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