Looking at the photos, Leighton Vander Esch needs to get a lot stronger. I worry if he's physical enough to fight off blocks and want to see the film when he has too. While the stats are off the charts good, he did it vs. mostly Mountain West offenses.
The pro day and Combine on Vander Esch can make or break him as a round one prospect. Is he a lanky Jack Lambert type??? A tall and somewhat thin player from a smaller school? Jack himself was very rangy vs. the pass, and a talking machine with off the charts instincts and intensity.
On Edmunds, I have seen his stuff, that good refers to being #1 on the list. I would not put him over Smith. Usually, I don't comment much on players projected to be taken well before our turn, unless I like to trade up for him.
Del does a very good job, but I have my own opinions, which can differ. If you follow his threads ( TE Prospect ), I think he should re-evaluate what he said on Mike Gesicki, and he doesn't put as much stock in the senior bowl week as I do.
I'll get into the draft a bit more after the combine, but if you want to check the archives, you can see my scouting report on T.J. WATT as he was my #1 guy. I think my interpretation of his game was rather good. .
Well taking in photos of a player to evaluate his ability isn't what the true prognosticators (TMCs, Del, etc.) who put in tons of hours to give a lucid review of players. And trying to compare Jack to him is ludicrous. Different era, different schemes. Plus he wasn''t giving up 100 pounds on linemen back then.
If you watched his film, you can tell he gets manhandled at the top by linemen who set square against him. Hence, he needs more upper body strength.
If you seen his "stuff" then try to elaborate as to why he isn't on Smith's level and from what sources did you use in that evaluation. You may find this hard to believe Coach, Mayock is miles ahead of you from a player evaluation standpoint while even acknowledging the evaluation isn't a hard science.
You "think" Del should re-evaluate what he said regarding his TE class? Give it a rest. You are in your own league Coach. His evaluation is what he ascertained from researching. The majority of folks if polled wouldn't even listen to an argument from some one Who Doesn't Watch Games.
Better yet, if you think Del should re-evaluate, maybe you need to re-evaluate the majority of your musings....
As for you peacocking your feathers about Watt being ÿour "#1 guy".......only you and about a hundred others on here said the same thing. Not to mention the media talking heads out there.
Sheesh......need to add egotistical to your profile.
EDIT: BTW, you say you are a senior bowl guy. Rambling about players performing against the best of their peers. While its true they invite most of the elite senior players, the PRO coaches also MOVE players to different positions. Of which, they are unfamiliar with, or haven''t played many snaps at the position. OT/OG, DE/OLB, OLB/ILB, LB/S, S.LB, CB/S....You have guys being evaluated beyond what they did in their college careers...to see if they adapt to what's ahead of then in the NFL.
So, their game film during the season is much/MUCH more emphasized by evaluators. If you are sticking your opinions based upon the 20-30 snaps a player received in the Senior Bowl....then ok....you've shown us all that we already know.
