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M. Bryant not fitting under Gruden’s rule?

Ron Burgundy said:
Most of the players in pro sports, any sport, have been superstars since high school and accordingly were often cut slack from their coaches. Mikey Cool Shades isn't any different from a high school coach in that regard.
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Thats fine. Some here are shocked when we end up with players like Bryant. Bell. And even AB. All are stars or could be. All me first type guys. It kills a the team first mentality when you have to many of them doing their own thing.
 
stillwright said:
How did he get that mindset? Simple. Alot has to do with the liberties he and others have been given from our HC. While some will still work hard others will keep taking and pushing the envelope farther and farther at each and every opportunity. Enter Bryant's name at this point.
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I'd think his substance abuse and depression (which are both on record) would be more to blame than a coach that correctly benched him for dogging a teammate.

Then again, there is also an attitude of the younger generation, to start at the top. They're smarter and know better and should have the top job at the highest pay, immediately.

That mindset is rampant throughout the league, not just in Pit.
 
If a great talent has a really ****** attitude you have to get rid of it. Washington isnt near as talented as Bryant, but that kid will work everyday to get better. The end result will be more productive.
 
"White tiger" now that's real rich............................ Raiders are regretting this trade and Martavus is lazy ing his way to OOF (out of football). So glad we moved him and Chuckie Gruden can say all he wants but to date this is a mistake. Will the "white tiger" ever come around...... Hard to say but for what we got out of him VS what we got in the trade, well I'd say to date we are way ahead in that deal.





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It’s interesting...I wonder what kind of support system Bryant has out West. He’s from VA so most everyone in his family is on the east coast. He’s fought depression for some time. Did a Gruden really do his research before he offered the moon to Colbert for him?

In one of Dulac’s chats someone inquired whether trading a 1st rounder for Mack could be made considering all the O talent and short LB talent we have. Dulac obviously said he would immediately. Would Gruden even listen to trade offers from Pitt now? Or would he feel like he was sold damaged goods? I’d remind him he asked us, not the other way around. In any case Mack would be intriguing if he was affordable.


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Ike Kelly said:
It’s interesting...I wonder what kind of support system Bryant has out West. He’s from VA so most everyone in his family is on the east coast. He’s fought depression for some time. Did a Gruden really do his research before he offered the moon to Colbert for him?

In one of Dulac’s chats someone inquired whether trading a 1st rounder for Mack could be made considering all the O talent and short LB talent we have. Dulac obviously said he would immediately. Would Gruden even listen to trade offers from Pitt now? Or would he feel like he was sold damaged goods? I’d remind him he asked us, not the other way around. In any case Mack would be intriguing if he was affordable.


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I'd make that trade yesterday. It's the biggest hole on our team, and we can fill it with one of the league's best? Every day of the week. Sucks we don't get a 1st next year, but we're a SB team and a powerhouse on D if we make that trade.
 
SteelerSask said:
If a great talent has a really ****** attitude you have to get rid of it. Washington isnt near as talented as Bryant, but that kid will work everyday to get better. The end result will be more productive.
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Talent is a tough metric. I'd say Washington runs better routes, has better hand placement, high points the ball, and attacks the football to make INTs nearly impossible.

Bryant had more size, speed, and catch radius, but man would he just sit there and watch CBs undercut him for INTs.

Bryant was the more gifted athlete, but Washington may be the better player, because he WANTS that football more than anyone else on the field. (Aside from AB of course)
 
As far as MB’s support system, he should have the best money can buy. With the money he is dragging down, it would be a good idea to invest in a serious life coach and handlers.
 
MT~Forged said:
As far as MB’s support system, he should have the best money can buy. With the money he is dragging down, it would be a good idea to invest in a serious life coach and handlers.
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Funny enough, he's still on his rookie contract, and if he gets cut before the season, it isn't guaranteed. $1.9M this season.

He also didn't get paid the year he was out of football. I'd be surprised if he has any money.
 
Cope said:
I'd make that trade yesterday. It's the biggest hole on our team, and we can fill it with one of the league's best? Every day of the week. Sucks we don't get a 1st next year, but we're a SB team and a powerhouse on D if we make that trade.
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How about Dobbs,Dupree and a third for Mack?
 
slashsteel said:
How about Dobbs,Dupree and a third for Mack?
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DONE! I'd rather give up a 3rd, but we don't really have an OLB to give up. Financially, Dupree would not make sense for Oak. We'd have to give up a talented roster tweener like Fort, or Matakevich, and I'd do that in a heartbeat!
 
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