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Let Them Drink Oil

That is some strange news out of Texas. We have some of that problem here in Florida. The ever expanding population from Tampa/Clearwater area north to Pasco County have traditionally had their problems obtaining enough fresh water. I'm not an expert but I hear that the aquifers are smaller and shallower near the ocean, thus a lot of sink holes and contamination with salt water. Efforts to pump some of the excess from central Lake County aquifers have resulted in shortages in the world famous Villages area. Truth is, we depend on rainwater, without sufficient rain we just use more than is available.

The California shrinking water table is partly ( or mostly ? ) the result of the greenies that pushed a judge into diverting water to the ocean in order to protect a three inch fish that was clogging the water pumps.

California’s water storage and transportation system designed by federal and state governments includes 1,200 miles of canals and nearly 50 reservoirs that provide water to about 22 million people and irrigate about four million acres of land throughout the state.

In May 2007, a Federal District Court Judge ruled that increased amounts of water had to be re-allocated towards protecting the Delta smelt – a three-inch fish on the Endangered Species List.

Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...G5bxJNgtA8KQwUBgLxdyO5w&bvm=bv.70138588,d.aWw
 
Chip, I can tell you for an absolute fact that the idiotic Federal court ruling, precluding the diversion of surface water into irrigation reservoirs in Central California because of danger to the Delta smelt, is destroying millions of acres of productive farmland.

Prior to this ruling, run-off was directed into reservoirs in Central California that served an estimated 22 million Californians, and most notably, thousands of farmers tilling millions of acres.

"Because of this ruling, in 2009 and 2010 more than 300 billion gallons (or 1 million acre-feet) of water were diverted away from farmers in the Central Valley and into the San Francisco Bay – eventually going out into the Pacific Ocean."

http://naturalresources.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=5921

I drive through central California to visit family in Sacramento, and the effect is noticeable to the naked eye. Central California was very recently populated with thriving small communities, dependent on farming in that area.

Now, those Central California towns - Hanford, Visalia, Kettleman City, Lost Hills - have greatly reduced populations and employment due to the loss of the most important economic factor in the area: the farms in the Central Valley.

Those farms used to produce produce lettuce, corn, asparagus, broccoli, turnips, radishes, peaches, apples, almonds, and on and on. The farmers also hired laborers to pick the crops, drivers to transport the crops, supervisors to schedule the work shifts and deliveries, bookkeepers to keep track of product and billing. That business also generated the tax base used for roads, schools, fire departments, and police.

Now the farmers don't have the water to remain in business. The towns have shrunk, and quite a few of the businesses in these towns are boarded up.

But hey, who cares, right? Just a bunch of redneck farmers are out of business. It's not like this policy adversely affects Harvard.
 
Yeh ST, and things ain't gettin' any better.....

FRESNO (CBS / AP) — A federal appeals court on Thursday largely upheld a 2008 plan that called for restrictions on water deliveries from California’s Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta to protect a tiny, threatened fish.

“It is particularly frustrating that water dedicated to protecting the Delta Smelt has not provided any protection to the species,” Birmingham said. “The population of the species continues to decline.”

Environmentalists praised the ruling.....and don't look to Dinjy Harry for help.

The House will pass legislation next week that would restore the flow of water to farms, homes and businesses in California's Central Valley, to help victims of what congressional Republicans say is a drought that is being made worse by the Obama administration.

But in Congress, the GOP's effort to reverse Obama's ESA decision has been unsuccessful so far. The House passed a similar bill in 2012, in a 246-175 vote, and the Senate never considered it. California Republicans said Democrats need to address the issue to help water-starved areas of their home state.

"Unfortunately, Senate Democrats have yet to even offer a proposal to deliver needed water to the Central Valley," McCarthy said. "It is time, as representatives for the entire state, that Senator [Barbara] Boxer [D-Calif.] and Senator [Dianne] Feinstein [D-Calif.] support drought stricken Californians and get behind this legislation."

Yeh right...good luck with that !
 
I hope they all burn in a wildfire that they cannot put out because of a stupid fish. Of course we can also hope for the big earthquake that finally shoves that shithole away from the rest of the real USA. But dont worry the Dems have a plan, introduce another million central americans to cali to further stress the water situation. That should fix it.
 
Because CA doesn't have enough water, in PA I have to suffer with a toilet that doesn't work very well. That's the difference between living in a place where no one else wants to live and a place where people do want to live because the weather doesn't suck.
FL gets plenty of rain but the problem is that they paved over the whole state to build houses for Supe and ark, so all the rain runs into the ocean or Gulf and turns into saltwater.
The Saudis rock a lot of desalinization plants, which are not terribly efficient, but they don't have to give a **** what it costs.
 
You flood a desert region with 40 million people who want a pool and lawn for every home and don't expect water problems?

hahahahaha
 
Spike said:
You flood a desert region with 40 million people who want a pool and lawn for every home and don't expect water problems?

hahahahaha
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Droughts happen; but what is happening in Central California is caused by a Federal court ruling, preventing use of the delta run-off system to divert water into storage areas, an approach used for decades prior to the ruling.

That program gives the farmers needed water, and the delta system in Central California has helped lessen potential floods for as long as I have been alive. Because the Federal judge precluded the water diversion, the delta earth barriers become dried out, and will no longer withstand an influx of water once the drought runs its course - as they always do.

In a year or two, watch for news reports about flooding in Central California due to the failure of the delta barriers.
 
nice to see the open minded liberal has so much sympathy for the people in the Panhandle dealing with the water issues.....******* twatwaffle
 
steelchip It's kind of funny you mentioned Tampa/Clearwater. I was recently down there to take my father to the Pirates games.
We did a drive up along the ocean from St Pete to Clearwater. My Dad had never taken that drive and was surprised at how
developed it was with all the hotels and condos. Every couple of minutes he kept repeating, "Where do they get the water for this"
 
21STEELERS21 said:
steelchip It's kind of funny you mentioned Tampa/Clearwater. I was recently down there to take my father to the Pirates games.
We did a drive up along the ocean from St Pete to Clearwater. My Dad had never taken that drive and was surprised at how
developed it was with all the hotels and condos. Every couple of minutes he kept repeating, "Where do they get the water for this"
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No money for water infrastructure. We need carbon sniffing satellites.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
steelchip It's kind of funny you mentioned Tampa/Clearwater. I was recently down there to take my father to the Pirates games.
We did a drive up along the ocean from St Pete to Clearwater. My Dad had never taken that drive and was surprised at how
developed it was with all the hotels and condos. Every couple of minutes he kept repeating, "Where do they get the water for this"
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For one thing, where my folks live in Ft. Myers the development has a lot of lakes and everyone's sprinkler system uses lake water. You see a lot of signs on the traffic island sprinklers that say "Non-Potable Water", I suppose to keep the homeless from drinking it. I try to explain to my mom that the dishwasher uses less water than washing them by hand, but she won't hear of it.
 
21STEELERS21 said:
steelchip It's kind of funny you mentioned Tampa/Clearwater. I was recently down there to take my father to the Pirates games.
We did a drive up along the ocean from St Pete to Clearwater. My Dad had never taken that drive and was surprised at how
developed it was with all the hotels and condos. Every couple of minutes he kept repeating, "Where do they get the water for this"
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Most areas along the East Coast and the eastern interior will be alright as far as rain because of the moisture patterns that roll in. The one exception is Florida.

I saw a projection map a while back for 2050-60 and it showed Florida with sea rise affecting Miami and other areas slightly, and the central part in long term drought much like the Southwest is now. By 2100 with the sea rise and the drought they will be pretty much done.
 
PoloMalo43 said:
Most areas along the East Coast and the eastern interior will be alright as far as rain because of the moisture patterns that roll in. The one exception is Florida.

I saw a projection map a while back for 2050-60 and it showed Florida with sea rise affecting Miami and other areas slightly, and the central part in long term drought much like the Southwest is now. By 2100 with the sea rise and the drought they will be pretty much done.
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I'll take the under on the sea rise and the over on the rain.
 
PoloMalo43 said:
Most areas along the East Coast and the eastern interior will be alright as far as rain because of the moisture patterns that roll in. The one exception is Florida.

I saw a projection map a while back for 2050-60 and it showed Florida with sea rise affecting Miami and other areas slightly, and the central part in long term drought much like the Southwest is now. By 2100 with the sea rise and the drought they will be pretty much done.
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Wonder what the "degree of wrong" is on that projection.
 
Steeltime said:
In a year or two, watch for news reports about flooding in Central California due to the failure of the delta barriers.
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I think you mean "due to AGW and/ or the inaction of the GOP congress".
 
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