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John Fox sticking with QB Mike Glennon as the starter against Pittsburgh

Cope said:
I think it's a positive that we're not giving **** QBs career games against us this year, so far...
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I have been wondering about this impression that bad quarterbacks seem to do well against us. So I thought I'd use my DQR rating data a bit (not perfect) and see who did better when they faced us vs. their season average over the past 2-3 seasons.

In 2016, 8 of the 16 quarterbacks we faced did above their season average and 8 did below.
In 2015, 10 of the 16 quarterbacks we faced did above their season average and 6 did below.
In 2014, 10 of the 15 quarterbacks (one game was not available) we faced did above their season average and 5 did below.

So in general (as we all know), our pass defense hasn't been great. So you are bound to have quarterbacks perform better vs. us than vs. the league.

Now having said all that there are specific games that certainly stick out as "bad quarterbacks having really good games against us" since 2014. Of these the following stick out (again, using my rating system) as games against QB's with season averages lower than 85 (which is lower than average):

2014 - M. Glennon, 98.7 rating (79.7 season rating)
2014 - B. Hoyer, 163.8 rating (81.0 season rating)
2014 - Z. Mettenberger, 144.4 rating (70.2 season rating)
2014 - A. Dalton, 121.1 rating (80.7 season rating)

2015 - C. Kaepernick, 82.2 rating (66.4 season rating)
2015 - A. McCarron, 90.3 rating (82.9 season rating)
2015 - R. Mallet, 99.7 rating (64.4 season rating)

2016 - C. Wentz, 163.4 rating (76.2 season rating)
2016 - R. Tannehill, 135.5 rating (84.1 season rating)


So how many times have we done better vs. bad quarterbacks (those lower than 85 season averages):

2014 - C. Newton, 73.6 (season average 76.7)
2014 - B. Bortles, 45.0 (season average 58.8)
2014 - A. Dalton, 57.4 (season average 80.7)

2015 - J. Flacco, 36.9 (season average 83.2)
2015 - M. Hasselback, 26.4 (season average 75.2)
2015 - B. Osweiler, 69.4 (season average 76.2)
2015 - A. Davis, 23.9 (season average 60.7)

2016 - Flacco/Mallet, 73.6 (season average 78.4)
2016 - McCown/Kessler, 38.3 (season average 67.4)
2016 - E. Manning 50.2 (season average 78.0)

So in general, if ALL quarterbacks have about a 50% of doing better vs. our defense, then it is logical to expect 50% of BAD quarterbacks also have a chance to exceed their season average.

I am not sure it is correct statistical analysis to expect an average defense to do better vs. bad quarterbacks and worse vs. good quarterbacks. Average defense might just mean half of all quarterbacks just do better against us (the good one and the bad ones).

Food for thought....
 
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Word is John Fox is already fired, after this season, refuses to start Trubisky
 
Spike said:
Word is John Fox is already fired, after this season, refuses to start Trubisky
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Might John try to out Fox the Steelers and start Trubisky? After all Trubisky looked the best of the rookie QB's in the pre-season, and Kizer did okay vs our defense.
 
Coach said:
Might John try to out Fox the Steelers and start Trubisky? .
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Don't bet on it


Fox confident Glennon will rebound

When the Bears host the Steelers Sunday, coach John Fox is confident that quarterback Mike Glennon will rebound from last weekend's three-turnover outing in Tampa.

"He's a competitor," Fox said Wednesday. "We all deal with adversity and sometimes what is critical is how you respond. You're going to get hit. You're going to have bad days. It's how you respond to that. It won't be his first time and I'm sure it's not going to be his last time. We have confidence in him."

Bears hope to have Markus Wheaton, Kyle Long and Prince Amukamara back this week, John Fox said

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/ar...-rebound/2d8e645d-e2cf-4e4d-bcb7-b7e818bef64a
 
Hines57 said:
This same defense that didn't get a sack until what week last year? I'm noticing big differences with Haden and Burns as our 2 corners. Most of the plays we are giving up are in zone coverage in the middle of the field in the passing game. The front 7 are holding their own with the run game. Losing Watt for however long he's gone will hurt. I noticed them switching Watt and Dupree to opposite sides. We're also running some CB and S blitzes overloading sides. The defense is doing exactly what it is supposed to do.
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And guess what this defense will be doing against Brady and the Patriots? Exactly what they always do -- giving up ****-tons of yardage and points like there's no tomorrow...and in the playoffs, there never is one.
 
slashsteel said:
I am going on record to say our playing down and losing to inferior teams is done with this years version.

Write it down and quote me.
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I hope you're right, but I'm at the point where I need to see it first, as they've too often struggled and or lost in games they're heavily expected to win, especially on the road, under Tomlin.

They barely beat the Browns in the opener.
 
Spike said:
Well I'm just glad we got a punter.

Did u see Winger for the Giants snap his ankles and faceplant that whiffed tackle kick return TD against the Lions last night? truly a spectacle for the ages
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Kinda like Jeff Reed only reed's a kicker and a towel dispenser demolision expert.!!!!



Salute the nation
 
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