• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

Hands up and give us the money, Mouse!

Why does this not surprise me,............GREED MACHINE = Higher prices to us FANS.



Salute the nation
 
Something stinks. Their rating have been decreasing, how can a price increase be justified?
 
Like my older brother always said when we were kids..."how does it feel to want?"
 
CoolieMan said:
my dad always said "want in one hand and **** in the other and see which gets filled first"
Click to expand...
Well.....which hand got filled first?
 
My Great Grandpappy always said "You can **** in one hand and wish in the other, see which one fills up faster"

As a small kid I didn't realize the importance of that statement. Today it is fully realized.




Salute the nation
 
152993219_3745416075494293_6072872303172498330_o.jpg
 
I hope they all give the nfl the middle finger.
 
MT~Forged said:
Haven’t paid for a single thing in a few years, don’t intend to change that policy
Click to expand...
Narrowed to NFL direct stuff I would agree but yes you do pay to the machine in the way of higher advertisement cost(s) of product directly reflects higher consumer prices. TV contracts are all about advertisement and the more they pay, eventually the we pay, ultimately GREED MACHINE.



Salute the nation
 
madinsomniac said:
Why in the hell would you give them the hammer? Tell them to pound sand then rent them the hammer at a million dollars an hour...
Click to expand...
I am pretty sure ExUSAF's point was tell them to "pound sand". Get it...bag of sand + hammer.
 
Hoot said:
I am pretty sure ExUSAF's point was tell them to "pound sand". Get it...bag of sand + hammer.
Click to expand...
I get that... i was just pointing out that the nfl should not get anything for free ever... hell charge em for the sand they should pound
 
Drink IRON City said:
Narrowed to NFL direct stuff I would agree but yes you do pay to the machine in the way of higher advertisement cost(s) of product directly reflects higher consumer prices. TV contracts are all about advertisement and the more they pay, eventually the we pay, ultimately GREED MACHINE.



Salute the nation
Click to expand...
I make it a habit to not support advertisers directly either. If I am paying indirectly, it is a VERY small amount. We as a family used to spend about $3000 a year before, game tickets, travel, hotel stays, swag, etc. They killed our Golden Goose.
 
Stoney said:
Something stinks. Their rating have been decreasing, how can a price increase be justified?
Click to expand...
Because NFL ratings still crush everything else. Streaming is bleeding users off all broadcast tv, but it's bleeding almost none from the NFL.

Joe
 
MT~Forged said:
I make it a habit to not support advertisers directly either. If I am paying indirectly, it is a VERY small amount. We as a family used to spend about $3000 a year before, game tickets, travel, hotel stays, swag, etc. They killed our Golden Goose.
Click to expand...

Same here. I really think that they haven't seen the full reprecussions of their stupid nonsense yet. When they do, it might just be too late.
 
All of these networks now also have their own streaming services. Disney+ for ABC and ESPN, CBS has their own. NBC launched Peacock streaming. Fox has one too. it’s because these networks all see that streaming is the future. Most young people stream almost everything. Even older people will start streaming more once it becomes less complicated.

it’s kind of like how there used to be Napster and other places you could download music as mp3 for free. Lots of people were doing it but it was a bit complicated. You had to know what you were doing and how to play them and how to convert and put them of CD if you wanted to hear it on your stereo. CD sales were still good because mp3 still took some doing.

Then Apple came along with iTunes and the iPod and made it easy. Now people would rather just pay a buck a song to make it easy and be able to listen anywhere. CDs were basically done.

The same is about to happen with TV. Broadband is far more available and with 5G rolling out, it will be much easier to have enough bandwidth to stream video regularly. You also have so many companies fighting to be a 1 stop streaming source like iTunes became. That likely won’t happen though. Netflix was that for a bit but then movie and TV studios started pulling their content back or charges huge sums. Netflix wisely saw it coming and started making their own shows.

That’s just pointing out that streaming rights is the real prize in a new contract. Any network will have to demand that the NFL allow all existing streaming deals to expire and streaming will become part of the TV deal. No more streaming the CBS games on yahoo or YouTube or wherever else. You want to to watch a CBS game then you do it on CBS TV or streaming.

despite all that, there are still many people who don’t have high speed internet, don’t have smart devices and rely on over the air broadcast TV. The NFL would be foolish to take “free” games off the major networks. They lost viewers moving MNF from ABC to ESPN.

Another thing networks should demand and NFL should also want is that future CBA will tie the salary cap to TV and Streaming ratings. In other word, make them consider how going woke will hurt their paychecks.
 
With the fall of cable companies, everyone thought a-la-carte was what was coming next. But it isn't. Now the product producers have lumped themselves into groups as "providers". In American it will be Netflix, Hulu, Apple, Amazon, Google/Youtube, CBS/Paramount, NBC/Peacock, ABC/Disney/ESPN. Those, arguably, at the BIG 8. And likely they will gobble each other up over the years to reduce competition (and raise prices). There are a few smaller, wannabe, providers, but they won't last long (Fox is becoming that). I think Hulu and Netflix eventually get bought up. Apple, Google or Amazon will buy them and merge content. So eventually, you might have Apple, Amazon, Google/Youtube. CBS/Paramount, NBC/Peacock, ABC/Disney/ESPN.

There will not be a-la-carte anything. You will have to pay for ALL of Amazon's content or none of it. And once everyone starts using the same cost/income models, the prices are going to start to go up. Everyone is going to use low prices to get you to join, but I'm afraid we are very close to that stage being over.

Sports owners don't want to be broadcasters. They want immediate, guaranteed money and sell packages of their sports content around the world to various broadcasting services.

This is the way it is headed. NBC/Peacock might get some of the NFL broadcasting rights. And they will make you pay for ALL of their on-line content to get NFL games. The age of "local", free TV is going away. The government might demand a skeleton broadcast type system must be relatively "free" and all the broadcasters might participate in that old ad-model system, but why put sports on that if you don't have to?

I mean, maybe this is okay. You are going to pay a "hardware" company to provide internet ($30-$50/month) Someone that actually controls the modems and fiberoptic system that gets the information to your door (Verizon, Xfinity, etc.). And then you a-la-carte the big providers, maybe each at $10-$20/month depending on how the content gets to you, commercial/commercial free, perks, etc.

They all know people are willing to spend $200/month total for everything. The price isn't going down. You can cut corners and take advantage during this "transition" phase and the cable companies die-off in their current form and maybe save some money in the short run. But it will settle down and creep back up to that magical price point people are willing to pay.
 
SteelChip said:
It don't matter, they ain't gettin' none of my money nohow.

th
Click to expand...
Shoot, the NFL isn't being Liberal in their dealings with the Networks. Straight Capitalism. Straight Gangster strong arm.
If they were being Liberal, they'd offer their packages for free and propose a tax on every TV in each house. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
deljzc said:
They all know people are willing to spend $200/month total for everything. The price isn't going down. You can cut corners and take advantage during this "transition" phase and the cable companies die-off in their current form and maybe save some money in the short run. But it will settle down and creep back up to that magical price point people are willing to pay.
Click to expand...

Well thought out stuff. Money post all around. This last paragraph struck me a bit funny though. I cut the cable a year or so ago. My only entertainment is Netflix and sometimes Amazon. Not paying 200/month has been wonderful and I don't miss the tele at all. With all the ohter services poppong up, I can see where people who cut the cable cord are now paying MORE for all the different streaming services. I simply won't do it because I don't use it enough. But, you are right that industry consolidation is coming. If that drives my prices up, I will just sign off tele. It is very liberating not to be tied to the idiot box.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top