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Giants Fired Daboll. Lane Kiffin Next?

Kiffin's going to be one rich man after this season. Most every college program is eye-pfucking him and now the Giants will be.
 
This is dirty work by the GM. He’s the guy who gave Daniel Jones a big contract and let Saquon leave. Then during the draft he made it clear that Dart was Daboll’s pick and he tried to distance himself. Now Dart looks good and he fires Daboll.

 
I'm a bit surprised they fired Daboll, but this will be a desirable job with the young talent they have at key positions.

I don't see Kiffin as a good candidate, plus he has a pretty cushy college job. He should float his name out there to get the token pay raise because he does well at Ole Miss without the same pressure as other teams that have championship expectations every year.
 
Litos said:
We can even leave them one of those 1st in exchange for dart
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I don’t have anything against TJ Watt, but I’d take the 2 - 1st round pick and Dart and give them Tomlinization & Watt.


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BLITZ said:
the Gmen should trade 2 1st round draft picks for an established HC. Maybe one that has never had a losing season. where to find one?
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Do not I say do not threaten me with a good time.
 
SteelerFan448 said:
I'm a bit surprised they fired Daboll, but this will be a desirable job with the young talent they have at key positions.

I don't see Kiffin as a good candidate, plus he has a pretty cushy college job. He should float his name out there to get the token pay raise because he does well at Ole Miss without the same pressure as other teams that have championship expectations every year.
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I'm not sure any major college job is cushy anymore. Ole Miss is less pressure than Bama and LSU, but for how long? Let Kiffin miss the playoffs this year or go 1 and done and his seat gets warm. NIL now has fan bases thinking you should be a title contender every single year.

Kiffin could have Dart at QB with Nabors at WR and maybe if the Giants tank, they can also draft Jeremiah Smith. If he fails, he can go back to college in a few years where he'd still be a top name.

He could be like Saban leaving LSU for the Dolphins then going back to Bama where he didn't have to worry about a salary cap.
 
madinsomniac said:
Kiffin, with a 5-15 nfl record, isnt exactly the best candidate for NY... or he shouldnt be at least
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Thank God our franchise has stability at the position.🙄
 
I never understood why the same coaches are cycled through year after year. There are young up and comers that should be considered for these head coaching positions, just look at the Steelers giving a young Mike Tomlin a shot at....oh....wait....never mind.

hmmmm...Lane Kiffin you say...great idea! experience, winning coach...love it!
 
BLITZ said:
the Gmen should trade 2 1st round draft picks for an established HC. Maybe one that has never had a losing season. where to find one?
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Not sure two firsts would be enough for a coach that achieved an unthinkable task like that, maybe throw in Dart and Dexter Lawrence to sweeten the pot…if a coach with such an accomplished career as that even exists.
 
Badcat said:
I never understood why the same coaches are cycled through year after year. There are young up and comers that should be considered for these head coaching positions, just look at the Steelers giving a young Mike Tomlin a shot at....oh....wait....never mind.

hmmmm...Lane Kiffin you say...great idea! experience, winning coach...love it!
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NO to Lane.



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Fiji Mariner said:
Not sure two firsts would be enough for a coach that achieved an unthinkable task like that, maybe throw in Dart and Dexter Lawrence to sweeten the pot…if a coach with such an accomplished career as that even exists.
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I was thinking an old cast iron fry-pan and Dart……………..



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Badcat said:
just being facetious
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If I was a Kentuckian, I would ask if that had anything to do with my sister / wife..............................................



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tapeANaspirin2it said:
I'm not sure any major college job is cushy anymore. Ole Miss is less pressure than Bama and LSU, but for how long? Let Kiffin miss the playoffs this year or go 1 and done and his seat gets warm. NIL now has fan bases thinking you should be a title contender every single year.

Kiffin could have Dart at QB with Nabors at WR and maybe if the Giants tank, they can also draft Jeremiah Smith. If he fails, he can go back to college in a few years where he'd still be a top name.

He could be like Saban leaving LSU for the Dolphins then going back to Bama where he didn't have to worry about a salary cap.
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most of what you say is true. however, there's zero pressure at Ole Miss. He's still "young enough" to make the deep pocket boosters' wives giddy and on the other hand can still pull trim his daughter's age. Ole Miss will likely pony up a mil or two to throw at him, and that should be enough to keep him in a stress-free coaching environment. Eventually the boosters will want a ROI, but as long as their wives have their eye candy, all's good.
 
Badcat said:
I never understood why the same coaches are cycled through year after year. There are young up and comers that should be considered for these head coaching positions, just look at the Steelers giving a young Mike Tomlin a shot at....oh....wait....never mind.
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Possibly because recycled head coaches win more Super Bowls than young up and comers. The last young up and comer to win a super bowl before Sean McVay was Mike Tomlin. The head coaches who won Super Bowls since then who were in their first NFL head coaching stints had been around as assistants and college coaches for years before their appointments. And even Sean McVay needed 5 years at the Rams to win the Super Bowl.
 
There’s a chance Daboll ends up back in Buffalo under McDermott again. Some guys are just better play callers than head coaches
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Possibly because recycled head coaches win more Super Bowls than young up and comers. The last young up and comer to win a super bowl before Sean McVay was Mike Tomlin. The head coaches who won Super Bowls since then who were in their first NFL head coaching stints had been around as assistants and college coaches for years before their appointments. And even Sean McVay needed 5 years at the Rams to win the Super Bowl.
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This was interesting to look at. Since 1990, there have been more coaches who have won a championship with the team that hired them and they've also won more total Super Bowls. It feels slanted toward 2nd jobs because of Belichick and Reid who have combined for 9 of 19 championships, but also benefited from having two of the best QBs to ever play the game along with New England's well-documented history.

1st NFL Head Coaching Job - 15 coaches - 20 Super Bowls (3 won prior to 1990)
-Nick Sirianni
-Sean McVay
-Doug Pederson
-John Harbaugh
-Mike McCarthy
-Sean Payton
-Mike Tomlin
-Bill Cowher
-Brian Billick
-Mike Holmgren
-Barry Switzer
-George Seifert x2
-Jimmy Johnson x2
-Joe Gibbs x3
-Bill Parcells x2

2nd NFL Head Coaching Job - 10 coaches - 19 Super Bowls
-Andy Reid x3
-Bruce Arians (did not count his time as interim HC for Indianapolis)
-Bill Belichick (are we counting the Jets?) x6
-Gary Kubiak
-Pete Carroll
-Tom Coughlin x2
-Tony Dungy
-Jon Gruden
-Dick Vermeil
-Mike Shanahan x2
 
Aussie_Steeler said:
Possibly because recycled head coaches win more Super Bowls than young up and comers.
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SteelerFan448 said:
This was interesting to look at. Since 1990, there have been more coaches who have won a championship with the team that hired them and they've also won more total Super Bowls. It feels slanted toward 2nd jobs because of Belichick and Reid who have combined for 9 of 19 championships, but also benefited from having two of the best QBs to ever play the game along with New England's well-documented history.
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That is true, but as I said, most of the head coaches who won in their first stint were not young up and comers (the original statement I responded to questioned why teams cycle through the same coaches, rather than employ young up and comers). Most of the head coaches in the last 20 years who won in their first NFL head coaching stint had been around as assistants and college coaches for an extended period of time prior to their first head coaching job (e.g. Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton) or if they were young up and comers when employed, held the job for a long time and were no longer young up and comers when they won a Super Bowl (e.g. Bill Cowher who took 13 years to win a Super Bowl). The premise remains - more recycled head coaches win Super Bowls than young up and comers.
 
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