There is something going on here that doesn't quite make sense to me. How is it that ND is ranked behind Oklahoma with identical records based on the strength of schedule rankings that has the Sooners schedule ranked 2nd hardest, and the Irish's 14th? That would be fine if they didn't have Michigan St. ranked ahead of Notre Dame, seeing as how their SOS ranking is 24th. That's the rub. Apparently, Oklahoma being 12 spots ahead of ND gives them the edge even though they lost to a 4-6 team that Notre Dame beat by 35 points, while ND's only loss was on the road to the #1 team in the country ... and a close one at that. On the flip side, however, Notre Dame's 10 spot advantage in the SOS rankings doesn't seem to carry nearly the same weight when compared with Michigan St. The Spartans leap frogging of ND was no doubt based on the fact that they beat the Buckeyes... in other words, one game. Am I interpreting this the wrong way or am I correct in saying that the committee is completely contradicting itself by putting the emphasis on one aspect of the criteria when deciding where ND should be in relation to Oklahoma, while emphasizing the exact opposite in their comparison with MSU?
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I don't think it is that objective for the committee. The numbers are important, but I really think they're just trying to rank who they believe are the best teams. Sometimes, when the resumes are close, you have to be honest and ask yourself "who do I think is the better team?"
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Notre Dame wants to get paid and stay independent, then this is what it will cost them. While every other Conference contender has to navigate the mine fields of Title games at the end of the season they get to sit and watch. Unless they are undefeated they won't be making any playoff's any time soon unless they have obviously the toughest schedule in college football. I don't feel bad for them at all. Enjoy your big network contract while everyone else plays for a National Championship.
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Again, I think it's safe to conclude that only a 4 team format representing 100+ teams is insufficient.
No offense my man, but you are out to lunch on this topic. Not playing in a conference title game can hurt as much as it can help... depends on the year... depends on the circumstances. Teams on the bubble can play their way in with a victory, and teams ranked in the top four can play their way out with a loss. Saying that independents will always have an unfair advantage is patently false. Secondly, believing that ND should be purposefully kept out because they have remained independent is ridiculous. Notre Dame is doing what makes the most financial sense for the university... no different than any other school would do in the same situation. By far the biggest reason schools join conferences is because doing so will help it's athletic programs generate the most revenue that they can. This is why conferences were created in the first place. Thinking that ND should be punished for taking advantage of what NBC offered is also asinine. Notre Dame has a huge national following that exists because the of the success they've had over the decades combined with the religious aspect of the school. Saying that it is unfair for them to use that generate revenue for themselves makes no sense. It's the same reason Michigan can build a stadium that holds 115 thousand people and Northwestern has on that holds 40K. Michigan has a storied past, while Northwestern does not. Should Northwestern or any other Big 10 school be complaining that Michigan and Ohio St. have unfair advantages? Speaking of Ohio St., I seem to remember them backing into a few title games over the past 14-15 years because the Big 10 didn't play a conference championship game. What I don't remember is anyone saying that they didn't deserve to be there because of it. Looking back now, though, I guess no one had to... their play on the field in most of those games bore that out when they got the **** kicked out of them against Florida and LSU.
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Who has ND beat oh yea Temple. National following means what in ranking. The analyst continue to beat down conferences that do not have a championship game so where does ND come into play there. Just because they have a TV network does not make them a playoff team, they are ranked higher than they should be when looking at other teams records and who they played.
I'm an ACC fan, and it's the weakest I've ever seen. ND plays several ACC teams. So yeah, I don't see how they are ranked that high.
Honestly, none of the conferences seem great this year. It's going to be fun watching the scramble for the playoffs.
Honestly, none of the conferences seem great this year. It's going to be fun watching the scramble for the playoffs.
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Yes, what is it worth? How is it determined? Objectively, subjectively, etc.
I've seen people argue strength of schedule by referencing where an opponent was ranked at the time a team played them, instead of where they ended the season. That is ridiculously absurd.
Most do it the same as NFL, it is based solely on last years records of the teams.
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I think so too. And conference title games gives major conferences the boots as thier title games usually match top 20 teams vs each other. The winner get a needle mover/
I just needed somewhere to post this. I know no one cares, but I loved the Navy Houston game. GO COOGS!
I care and approve of this message......if Ward hadn't twisted his ankle against Memphis, the Coogs would like still be undefeated
They were on fire today. The UConn game felt like a trap game anyways, but I have really enjoyed watching this program grown. When I moved here in 2010 you couldnt pay people to go the UH games. Well I did and have supported them since the day I rolled into town. Really glad I have. Its been a fun program to watch.
Was worried about todays game since their top 2 running backs were out....somehow they take a defensive back, put him in at RB and he goes for over 100 yards.
Hopefully the raise they voted for Herman is enough to keep him around for more than this season
Hopefully the raise they voted for Herman is enough to keep him around for more than this season
Their first year head coach is going to get paid by somebody this off season...He is extremely talented, especially on the offensive side of the ball..
It is obvious Ohio State is missing his skill set.
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Herman will have his pick of jobs so I don't know if he is a lock to leave this year. Get a BIG pay raise from Houston and wait until the job he wants opens up in a year or two. If he has the desire to go to Texas, I can't imagine Charlie Strong will be on the job for much longer.
ND losing to Stanford eliminates their hopes anyway.....way to choke away the victory Irish
UH just voted to raise his salary to $3 million a year....hopefully that at least makes him consider sticking around.....not that there aren't schools out there who would pay him even more.....hopefully it is not during the week of the conference championship like what happened when the ******* aggies hired sumlin away
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I'm guessing the playoff ranking will look something like this on Tuesday
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. Michigan State
5. Ohio State
6. Iowa
7. Stanford
8. North Carolina
9. Florida State
10 TCU
The Big Ten is now a lock for a playoff spot. The winner of the Big Ten Champ game Iowa vs Mich State is guaranteed a spot.
ACC also appears to have a lock. Clemson obviously, but if UNC beats them in the ACC Champ then i think they are in no doubt.
Alabama is in with a win vs Florida. If Florida somehow wins, i think they are left out unless they somehow blow Bama out and that seems unlikely since i'd be surprised if they score more than 10 points.
Oklahoma could get edged out. Their season is done and we've seen that hurt the Big 12 already. They are trending up, but they are the team that could get bumped if something strange happens
What if UNC beats Clemson? If it's a close game, UNC is likely in and Clemson could knock out Oklahoma because Oklahoma has an ugly loss to Texas.
What if Mich State blows out Iowa? That could mean Ohio State gets in over Oklahoma as their only loss would be a last second one against Mich State.
What if Florida somehow wins? They could possibly go in ahead of Oklahoma
If you are Oklahoma, you are rooting for Clemson and Alabama for sure. You are also hoping that neither Iowa nor Mich State makes a statement in the Big 10 Champ like Ohio State did last year.
1. Clemson
2. Oklahoma
3. Alabama
4. Michigan State
5. Ohio State
6. Iowa
7. Stanford
8. North Carolina
9. Florida State
10 TCU
The Big Ten is now a lock for a playoff spot. The winner of the Big Ten Champ game Iowa vs Mich State is guaranteed a spot.
ACC also appears to have a lock. Clemson obviously, but if UNC beats them in the ACC Champ then i think they are in no doubt.
Alabama is in with a win vs Florida. If Florida somehow wins, i think they are left out unless they somehow blow Bama out and that seems unlikely since i'd be surprised if they score more than 10 points.
Oklahoma could get edged out. Their season is done and we've seen that hurt the Big 12 already. They are trending up, but they are the team that could get bumped if something strange happens
What if UNC beats Clemson? If it's a close game, UNC is likely in and Clemson could knock out Oklahoma because Oklahoma has an ugly loss to Texas.
What if Mich State blows out Iowa? That could mean Ohio State gets in over Oklahoma as their only loss would be a last second one against Mich State.
What if Florida somehow wins? They could possibly go in ahead of Oklahoma
If you are Oklahoma, you are rooting for Clemson and Alabama for sure. You are also hoping that neither Iowa nor Mich State makes a statement in the Big 10 Champ like Ohio State did last year.
The way I interpret Herman's pressers and comments is that he is fully committed and invested in Houston and UH and taking that football program to a whole other level. I know how the business works and there will be offers. I just hope what Im interpreting is Herman desires to stay here for awhile.
That AM offer for Sumlin chapped my *** on that timing.
his comments today are that he and UH have reached a deal in "principle"...and that the details remain to be worked out but they are moving in a positive direction.
Hopefully he stays and they finish the season as conference champions and have a strong showing in their bowl game.
they don't lose a lot on offense (other than Farrow) as long as the JRs stay. They could have another exceptional offense next season
Hopefully he stays and they finish the season as conference champions and have a strong showing in their bowl game.
they don't lose a lot on offense (other than Farrow) as long as the JRs stay. They could have another exceptional offense next season
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Why? That's pretty much how the committee has worked so far. Moving teams up and down based on that week's result. Oklahoma had the big win vs Ok State last week and Bama beat ****** Auburn. Don't worry though, Bama will still be ahead of multiple teams that have better wins on their resume. And they will probably go back to #2 after they pound a punchless Florida team.