Cap Class: Le’Veon Bell and His Contract Offer, $10M Guaranteed? Really??

[Steeler Nation]

G.Stryker www.Steelernation.com It has been reported that Le’Veon Bell was offered a 5 year $70M contract to remain a Pittsburgh Steeler. On July 16th, Bell and his agent rejected the Steelers offer. Now if the contract reported is correct, this averages to $14M per season. It would be the highest contract ever tendered to a […]

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[slashsteel]

He simply is just pricing himself out of Pittsburgh.

And yeah we will miss his production, his pass catching.

But it is what it is at this point. Steelers won't mortgage their future for one player.

Colts, Texans, or Jets might give him that rich up front guaranteed contract he desires.

But thankfully the Steelers outlined what they were willing to give with risk weighed in for past injury, age, and off the field occurrences.

The team will adjust and still win regardless of outcome.

 

[black and gold apex]

Bell wants to hold the team at bay for his own greed. We have won nothing with Bell, Let Tomlin treat Bell as Harrison let him pout and mover on. He was offered a more than fair deal no matter what his agent wants to say. Let him go to a less competitive team and see where it gets him.

 

[Steelr4evr]

He simply is just pricing himself out of Pittsburgh.

And yeah we will miss his production, his pass catching.

But it is what it is at this point. Steelers won't mortgage their future for one player.

Colts, Texans, or Jets might give him that rich up front guaranteed contract he desires.

But thankfully the Steelers outlined what they were willing to give with risk weighed in for past injury, age, and off the field occurrences.

The team will adjust and still win regardless of outcome.

His new OL when he leaves will have to get used to his 10 day wait around in the backfield. His open field movement is fantastic,his speed is not. He's getting caught from behind a lot. It's not going to get better in that department.

 

[slashsteel]

His new OL when he leaves will have to get used to his 10 day wait around in the backfield. His open field movement is fantastic,his speed is not. He's getting caught from behind a lot. It's not going to get better in that department.

And lets face it, he will likely see a drop-off in QB play, which will effect his pass catching production as well.

 

[TDX27]

I thought the reports were they offered a $20 million signing bonus. This is the first I am hearing $10 million unless they are removing the first years salary from the signing bonus to make it look worse than it was. The Steelers almost always offer 1 year as a signing bonus. $10 million makes no sense.

 

[steelhurt]

Well if it was so unfair or low of a signing bonus as his agents tells, then why did said agent jump all over last year’s contract only to have it turned down by Bell?
Last year’s contract surely would have been a lower signing bonus. Yet the agent accepted it thinking Bell would too.

First off it appears Bell and the agent weren’t on the same page and second this agent lost credibility with me.


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[Stryker]

I thought the reports were they offered a $20 million signing bonus. This is the first I am hearing $10 million unless they are removing the first years salary from the signing bonus to make it look worse than it was. The Steelers almost always offer 1 year as a signing bonus. $10 million makes no sense.

It's all over the internet. Do a quick search. Sounds like a sour grapes release from his agent, since the Steelers released the contract terms as the also did last year.

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[Litos]

also it has to be remembered that the Steelers tend to honor their contracts unless something stupid happens (Like another failed test). So when they give a player a contract, even if it's a low guaranteed amount, you better believe that if he behaves he will get a full contract at the end of it.

It's a matter of principles and I respect it

 

[Skott]

Bell is a risk.. Steelers were very fair to him. They will survive without a bell and so will we as fans.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Even though the agent may be responsible for some of this senselessness ONE must not forget that ultimately it was Bell's decision to be in this spot at this time. Agents an "MOMs" are just guides.......which would you listen to????????




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[wig]

I'm telling you, he was at best no more than the 5th or 6th ranked RB last year. He needed 50+ extra carries last year to be in the yardage hunt. As for his pass catching out of the backfield, a rookie topped him in that category last year.

Bell simply is 't as good as he thinks he is. He's not even as good as WE think he is. Sure, he's a top 5 running back, but I don't know what metric he's using to demands he's the number one back in football. He simply is not.

No way is he worth that much money based on his production over the last 3 years. It is only the potential people imagine in him that drives these numbers in the first place.

Truthfully, when was the last time Bell broke a 25+ yard run from the LOS? I honestly can't remember.

 

[Supersteeler]

Bell always seemed like the type of dude who will be perfectly content to finish his career on a team that wins 3 or 4 games a year, as long as he's making an extra 2 million per.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I'm telling you, he was at best no more than the 5th or 6th ranked RB last year. He needed 50+ extra carries last year to be in the yardage hunt. As for his pass catching out of the backfield, a rookie topped him in that category last year.

Bell simply is 't as good as he thinks he is. He's not even as good as WE think he is. Sure, he's a top 5 running back, but I don't know what metric he's using to demands he's the number one back in football. He simply is not.

No way is he worth that much money based on his production over the last 3 years. It is only the potential people imagine in him that drives these numbers in the first place.

Truthfully, when was the last time Bell broke a 25+ yard run from the LOS? I honestly can't remember.

I think he ONLY had one of those and it was 27, then two that were 20+ but less than 25.......................What that translates to wig is this. If you happened to bend over to pick up a $10.00 bill and slipped, then had to get up, you'd missed it. If you happened to have hit the bathroom, you'd missed it. If you happened to be checking out some chick's front side and waited a short moment for her to turn so you could check the back side, you missed it. If you had to re-tap the keg, you missed it. If the dog needed let out in the back yard, you missed it, Insert excuse 320 times and hope you happen to be watching the single one time he ran it more than 25 yards................ whats the odds.




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[Ike Kelly]

Lost in all the rhetoric is that the Steelers negotiate contracts to allow flexibility under the cap. That’s why you have players getting restructured contracts. It allows money on the contract to be moved during the life of the contract instead of having huge signing bonuses at the outset. Steelers have usually always paid out their contracts in full if the player performs. AB had a nice restructured bonus check a year after he signed it.

LeVeon made his bed, and is betting on himself, which is fine. However, in the world of business, you have a plan. I don’t think Bell has thought out his plan. His agent though......it smacks of politics to his understanding of how the Steelers works the salary cap.


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[bigben]

Bell is the most productive RB to EVER play the game on an average yards per game basis.

EVER


Barkley has never played a snap in the NFL and got 31 million plus, fully guaranteed.

 

[Ike Kelly]

Bell is the most productive RB to EVER play the game on an average yards per game basis.

EVER


Barkley has never played a snap in the NFL and got 31 million plus, fully guaranteed.

And that was collectively bargained by the union and league. The whole purpose for the rookie scale was to allow more money to vets. Guaranteed contracts are less of a risk for 1st round rookies because they are in all likelihood guaranteed playing 5 years with the team, barring injury or poor play. Barkley is still averaging less than the normal rate for RBs in the league. He’s just getting all his money that he would probably deserve anyway.


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[Troglodyte]

Bell is the most productive RB to EVER play the game on an average yards per game basis.

EVER


Barkley has never played a snap in the NFL and got 31 million plus, fully guaranteed.

Over how many years and how much younger is Barkley?

 

[SteelerFan448]

Bell is gonna get paid big next year...

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[Steelr4evr]

That's some big money for a player who can't even bang anymore. Just wait until all of those flags start flying this year. The meltdowns will be epic...

 

[Steelerz99]

Bell has only himself to blame. If dude didn't have 2 previous suspensions, he'd already have a nice contract. And BTW, the Rams paid Gurley because they can! They still have a QB on a rookie contract which gives them that flexibility. I do not believe Bell will get paid what he thinks he's worth, ever. He's betting on himself, but that's after another year of heavy use? If that's the case, he won't be more valuable in terms of longevity. Let's say the Steelers incorporate more of Connor and Samuels and they thrive w/o needing a heavy Bell workload. Less wear on Bell, but doesn't exactly boost his value either. Let's also not forget, dude has injury history, and that needs no further explanation as to how that will also hurt his value. It's all about timing... and he's been a day late and a dollar short.

 

[SteelerFan448]

Bell has only himself to blame. If dude didn't have 2 previous suspensions, he'd already have a nice contract. And BTW, the Rams paid Gurley because they can! They still have a QB on a rookie contract which gives them that flexibility. I do not believe Bell will get paid what he thinks he's worth, ever. He's betting on himself, but that's after another year of heavy use? If that's the case, he won't be more valuable in terms of longevity. Let's say the Steelers incorporate more of Connor and Samuels and they thrive w/o needing a heavy Bell workload. Less wear on Bell, but doesn't exactly boost his value either. Let's also not forget, dude has injury history, and that needs no further explanation as to how that will also hurt his value. It's all about timing... and he's been a day late and a dollar short.

You're nuts if you don't think a team like the Jets aren't going to give the guy at least $15-16 million per year with a huge guarantee.

 

[Superman]

rather be paid well on a good/great team that wins and contends every season or highly paid on a team that drafts high every season?

decisions, decisions...

 

[SteelerFan448]

Bell didn't take the deal because of how it was structured. In a way, he's almost not betting on himself because there's that chance of getting cut by the Steelers. Being no higher than No. 3 on the team behind Ben and Bell, I think he'd rather get a crazy deal and be THE man on a bad team than one of the pieces on a very good team.

 

[Stryker]

Over how many years and how much younger is Barkley?

Rookie 1st round contracts are all 4 year contracts with a 5th year option, which would be in addition to the money already received.