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Big Ten Cancels Season (Pac 12 follows)

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Not official yet but the vote was apparently 10-2 with Nebraska and Iowa dissenting. That's pretty much the end of college football this year. So do all Juniors automatically become eligible for the draft after the non-season? Do Seniors now enter the supplemental draft? Can Sophomores declare for the draft at the end of the year?
 
This is probably be the death knell for high school football this year.
 
What a shame for the players. 2020, everything is canceled.
 
They should cancel SM, the biggest spreader of diseases....

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Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence is trying to form a player’s union to play games outside the NCAA. In an ordinary year, this would be impossible. You would need to find stadiums and sell tickets and good luck getting sponsors or a TV deal. But this year, you don’t need fans or fancy stadiums. You can play on any high school field. You can easily get a TV contract.

If the XFL is smart, they will immediately pick this up and run with it. You can have a mix of college players and pro waiver wire guys. See how many players are interested and hold an online draft to get maybe 8 to 10 teams, then play about a 10 games schedule plus playoffs. They can do the whole thing at a bubble like the NBA is doing. And the kids can stay in school because many schools will be online only this year anyway.

College football may be dead within a few years. This coupled with the impending payment of players will mean that only the big money schools will remain as what would be called Div 1.

personally, I hope the XFL does become a league that takes kids out of high school and becomes an alternative training league where kids are paid. Then leave NCAA football for the rest who want a college experience.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence is trying to form a player’s union to play games outside the NCAA. In an ordinary year, this would be impossible. You would need to find stadiums and sell tickets and good luck getting sponsors or a TV deal. But this year, you don’t need fans or fancy stadiums. You can play on any high school field. You can easily get a TV contract.
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not saying impossible, but there are lot of items to consider:
1. field costs - not a lot, but still a fee
2. equipment - are the colleges going to just let the players use the gear the colleges bought? pads, jerseys, water bottles, medical, balls, etc. If you have to purchase seperately, the supply chain probably can't get unis and gear out that quickly.
3. cost of test. Assume 2 tests a week per person associated with the team. Lets say 100 people from players to coaches to equipment to field folks. That is 200K per week or 2M for a 10 week season.
4. zero revenue from stadium (seats, food, parking, etc)
5. insurance (i am sure that will be jacked up).
6. Salary for coaches and medical and equipment staffs
7. Referee fees and testing
8. Transportation and hotels costs

I am sure I am missing a few things...just a quick brain dump.

Now get your organization together and a few high powered (and expensive) lawyers to negotiate that TV deal and do it in a few weeks. Again, not saying impossible - just very challenging and not a drop of a hat kinda thing. I appreciate TL's drive and desire but that is a lot of moving parts in a very short time. I wish him luck. To your point, would need to leverage something like the XFL or NFL who might have equipment and such already available.

PS - thought of another...regulatory. getting a field and playing predicated on local and state laws which will vary.
 
Liability insurance, or the lack thereof, because insurers cannot quantify the risk, is behind all of this.

The big professional leagues can almost self insure, and they probably have to as it is their collective biz.

The schools however, have to spread that risk and $ upfront onto the rest of their portfolio, including stuff like school and endowments, and the risk/reward calc is much different. The highschools and municipal governments cannot self fund against unknown liability either, so they should fall the same way. This isn't about the virus, but rather who assumes future liability if this goes wrong and someone gets sued.

There was a guy from KY trying to slide this liability shield into the present aid package, but Grey Goose Pelosi says it benefits business. Lol.

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Confluence said:
Liability insurance, or the lack thereof, because insurers cannot quantify the risk, is behind all of this.

The big professional leagues can almost self insure, and they probably have to as it is their collective biz.

The schools however, have to spread that risk and $ upfront onto the rest of their portfolio, including stuff like school and endowments, and the risk/reward calc is much different. The highschools and municipal governments cannot self fund against unknown liability either, so they should fall the same way. This isn't about the virus, but rather who assumes future liability if this goes wrong and someone gets sued.

There was a guy from KY trying to slide this liability shield into the present aid package, but Grey Goose Pelosi says it benefits business. Lol.

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100% accurate.

There is no risk response outside of avoidance that I would accept if it were my business case to present


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I think they got scared and backed off when all those big school college coaches went nuts on Twitter yesterday. The debate continues it seems.
 
Ohio State’s coach has said they will look to play elsewhere if the Bug 10 cancels. I believe that Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska would as well. If the Big 10 caves and cancels, maybe we will end up with a bunch of teams cancelling and maybe 30 or so teams left that form a temporary league for 1 season.
 
The teams are under huge network contracts. Big Ten network isn't going to let a handful of schools just walk for a year without compensation. Notre Dame joined the ACC for a year but they already played over half their schedule dedicated to ACC already. They also kicked in the 14 million from their NBC contract as a buy-in. I don't see many schools being able to do that.
 
Seems crazy that most of the sports media seem to actively be rooting for sports to be cancelled. Clay Travis is an exception

 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Seems crazy that most of the sports media seem to actively be rooting for sports to be cancelled. Clay Travis is an exception

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Why?

It used to be sports guys doing media.

Now it is media people doing sports.

The evolution of ESPMZ has ruined major sports; the only positive is that the major pro leagues have to continue or die trying; the colleges and smaller loops (pro lacrosse) probably cannot yet handle the burden.

If only there was a way for government to step in and say " this liability burden is unfair to your business---we have a plan to help".

The chances of a solution like that less than 90 days before the election are pretty slim.

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It started when Disney bought ESPN. At that point they stopped hiring people who were sports fanatics and started hiring based on "diversity". That would be fine if those diverse people were also sports nuts. But they aren’t. ESPN now has far more people working for them who would rather be working at CNN or have their own political podcast. It comes through in the coverage.
 
Supersteeler said:
This is probably be the death knell for high school football this year.
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Unless the NFL wants to relocate their players in Canadian towns with no Coivd 19 cases and play in bubbles, their season is in serious jeopardy too
 
Big 10 didn't cancel. They just postponed until a date when it's impossible to play. Pac of course followed suit.


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tapeANaspirin2it said:
Big 10 didn't cancel. They just postponed until a date when it's impossible to play. Pac of course followed suit.


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That is ******* hilarious!
 
Coach said:
Unless the NFL wants to relocate their players in Canadian towns with no Coivd 19 cases and play in bubbles, their season is in serious jeopardy too
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Well....whether or not the play continues there will be a different face on the whole season fur shur. New rules, different equipment and the political establishment taking steps to change the game for all time. Which I personally see as the beginning of the end...hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.

NFL to ditch live on-field singing of the national anthem

This picture will be in history books for a year or so till the cancel culture gets to it.

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The NFL will drop on-field live performances of the national anthem before kickoff this season to curb COVID-19 transmission.

The league could also restrict on-field access of military and police honor guards, "Given the abundance of American flag imagery inside stadiums on signs and video boards," Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports reported.

The NFL declined FOS's request for comment.

This all comes amid the league championing the Black Lives Matter movement, pledging to spend $250 million over the next decade to "combat systemic racism and support the battle against the ongoing and historic injustices faced by African-Americans."

Meanwhile, "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing," the "black national anthem," will be played before each of the 16 games in Week 1, the NFL had revealed in a press release.

During KickOff Week, "End Racism" and "It Takes All Of Us" will also be stenciled in end zones for home openers.

Starting Week 1, NFL players will be allowed to wear helmet decals bearing George Floyd's names and initials, among other tributes to "victims of police brutality."

A league memo obtained by ESPN states that the league will allow players to wear decals on their helmets showing the names or initials of individuals who have been victimized by police brutality, or those who have been affected adversely by systemic racism. Coaches will be permitted to wear these names on their hats, as well.
https://thepostmillennial.com/nfl-to-ditch-live-on-field-singing-of-the-national-anthem
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Yeah gonna be a whole different scene out there this year....yinz as exited as I am ?

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SteelChip, the beginning of the end started when they manipulated rules for fantasy football, YOU sir have shown what will be know as the final nail in the coffin. To many people don't want politics shoved down their throats while enjoying sports. Now it will be political sports and many will find an alternative event or personal activity instead of the dedicated Sunday football game.

Since when did this GREAT NATION, the UNITED STATES of AMERICA have two national anthems only now by the NFL to be deduced to a "black national anthem" singular.

FINAL NAIL







Salute the nation
 
SteelChip said:
Well....whether or not the play continues there will be a different face on the whole season fur shur. New rules, different equipment and the political establishment taking steps to change the game for all time. Which I personally see as the beginning of the end...hope I'm wrong but I doubt it.



Yeah gonna be a whole different scene out there this year....yinz as exited as I am ?

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NFL wants the players to wear the initials of a guy that was high as hell on drugs and has been in trouble with the law for his entire life.. nice.


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mdk2 said:
NFL wants the players to wear the initials of a guy that was high as hell on drugs and has been in trouble with the law for his entire life.. nice.


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don’t forget the home invasion and armed robbery of a pregnant woman.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
Seems crazy that most of the sports media seem to actively be rooting for sports to be cancelled. Clay Travis is an exception
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They were out in full force over the past couple of days defending themselves. It wasn't everyone, but there was absolutely a segment rooting for sports to be cancelled and they are delusional enough to think they weren't.

Super Dave said:
That is ******* hilarious!
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Better late than never with the MAC lol!

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