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Ben ranked #8...fair?

Bobby Bufford

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https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/14/the-nfls-11-best-quarterbacks

Whoever these guys are, they're clueless.

11. Wentz
10. Baker
9. Ryan.
8 Ben.
7. Luck.
6. Brady.
5. Rogers.
4. Rivers.
3. Wilson.
2. Brees.
1. Mahomes.

Luck and Rivers ahead of Ben? Why? How? Brady at 6? Right. He just won another ring last season. He beat Mahomes head to head in AFCC game. Rivers and Luck have never even sniffed a Super Bowl.
 
Love Ben but the only arguments for moving him up are Rivers and Luck, but even then I could see it.. the rest legitimately belong above him. Br*dy at 6 is weird though. Seems like people are expecting him to slow down considerably without Gronk


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Brady doesn't get **** without cheating. **** him and that whole organization.

I'd like to see Mahomes play well for more than one year before anointing him #1.

QB's do not play head-to-head on the field, so you can't say Brady beat Mahomes. Brady threw 46 times in the AFCCG while Mahomes only threw 31 times. Mohomes had 7 more yards per completion than Brady, threw 3TDs to Brady's 1 and 0 int's to Brady's 2.

No idea how Rivers and Luck are above Ben. ****, just noticed Wilson is 3rd?
 
Does all of this matter if Ben leads this team to a SuperBowl win this year?
 
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Does all of this matter if Ben leads this team to a SuperBowl win this year?

I want to say it does matter, but....We cannot demand respect, only command it...
 
Ben should be no lower than 4th, but will always be knocked down whatever list is presented. At this point it should be a known.
 
Of course not. It's just conversation until we have something new to talk about.





Maybe you should start a new post on this topic............... "Something new to talk about"






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Ben should be somewhere in the 3 to 6 range. After all how much difference is there really between those.





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Wohahah. Slow your roll and pump your brakes....I'm taking into account last year and this year....But I noticed 2 guys should be on this list that got omitted....

Brady was pretty damn pedestrian ALL YEAR....

Wilson ony threw for 3445 yards....

My rankings

#1 Maholmes (Epic year)
#2 Brees (Pretty damn impressive)
#3 Ben (Big Ben is getting better as he ages, people need to recognize)
#4 Wilson (Some really good stats but...only threw for 3,445 yards)
#5 Rogers (losing record)
#6 Luck (similar year to Ben, but deducted for missing a few seasons)
#7 Brady (He blowed alot of the year last year) Still won a title and dude just ******* wins
#8 Goff (Got to the big dance) (why didn't he make this list?)
#9 Rivers (Blah, Blah, Blah, just a stat man)
#10. Baker (He did alot for these Clowns and put some attitude in them and got a late start)
#11. Lamar Jackson (Half a season, but it was memorable) Brings a unique skillset that is gonna give teams fits. Hate to say it, but he's got "It"...I do think he will be a pain in the *** for the AFC North, don't sleep on this sucka'
 
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https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/14/the-nfls-11-best-quarterbacks

Whoever these guys are, they're clueless.

11. Wentz
10. Baker
9. Ryan.
8 Ben.
7. Luck.
6. Brady.
5. Rogers.
4. Rivers.
3. Wilson.
2. Brees.
1. Mahomes.

Luck and Rivers ahead of Ben? Why? How? Brady at 6? Right. He just won another ring last season. He beat Mahomes head to head in AFCC game. Rivers and Luck have never even sniffed a Super Bowl.

I was about to say maybe they started with the premise "IF starting a franchise today......." but there's 85 year old Brees at #2, so I'm baffled.
I guess it's always subjective, but this list seems like there's no rhyme or reason other than who this particular writer cheers for.
 
******* off-season lists suck and they always seem to downgrade the Steelers.

More ammunition for Ben. Or something. Season. Get. Here. Soon.
 
Well put it this way cause it is built on last season. Why would Roger's be ahead of Roethlisberger. And why would Wentz even be on it. In the last two years he was injured and the backup took the team to the SB and won land then he was injured and the backup took them to the NFC divisional. So that pretty much says everything about the list cause the backup didn't even make the list.
 
Love Ben but the only arguments for moving him up are Rivers and Luck, but even then I could see it.. the rest legitimately belong above him. Br*dy at 6 is weird though. Seems like people are expecting him to slow down considerably without Gronk


Well, if that's why he is so low, that's stupid; he's already proven he can win it all without Gronk - didn't play vs. Atlanta in 2017.
 
Well put it this way cause it is built on last season. Why would Roger's be ahead of Roethlisberger. And why would Wentz even be on it. In the last two years he was injured and the backup took the team to the SB and won land then he was injured and the backup took them to the NFC divisional. So that pretty much says everything about the list cause the backup didn't even make the list.

I agree it's a crap list. Maybe Ben doesn't deserve higher than 6, but no way should Luck and Rivers be ahead of him. BB lead the NFL in passing yards AND has been to 3 SBs and won 2. What have Luck and Rivers done?

Luck get's way too much gloss for his accomplishments. What, he finally played a season after TWO years of not even playing but they rank him ahead of Ben? Nonsense.
 
Well, if that's why he is so low, that's stupid; he's already proven he can win it all without Gronk - didn't play vs. Atlanta in 2017.

Not stupid he is on the decline. And his play reflects that. No worry your team still has Ernie.
 
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Ben
Wilson
Except I don't see Wilson as being all that spectacular.

Mahomes may be the real deal but we get to see that this year with some tape on him and a couple of his weapons gone. I do think he's a pretty talented ************.
 
Except I don't see Wilson as being all that spectacular.

Mahomes may be the real deal but we get to see that this year with some tape on him and a couple of his weapons gone. I do think he's a pretty talented ************.

Yeah wherever Mahomes is on the list, not unrealistic to see him jump up with his talent.
 
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I will say this....This is the Golden Age of QB's...There are All-Time greats active here

And that's a fact....
 
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