Bellicheat praises Ernie Adams ..... thought this article would get the blood flowing on this forum

[Drink IRON City]

They didn't start the full-scale cheating/taping/robbing locker rooms and hotels/disabling headphones thing until 2000.

I don't put anything on Marsha other than ridiculous favoritism by the refs.

**** the cheating ********.

Marsha was the single player who most benifited from their cheating. he got play calls and knew the "amswers" before the question was answered. I'm not saying t*mmyb*y wasn't or couldn't be a great QB

BUT until someone can tell me the % of honest abe and the % of cheating mother-****** I will NOT ever give him credit for anything.!!

A-N-D

Don't forget the azzHole got busted for deflating footballs. The stats on non-fumble for cheatriots VS all other teams is out of this GALAXY. Seemed to coincide with the deflated balls...................................

So if this video & air don't seem like much then why the hell did they do it...............? I'm ONLY mentioning these two but you & I know there is a lot more that went on.




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[Omar10213245]

Sheeeyut, I wish ol' Mikey Sunglasses had his own Ernie Adams to pal around with

 

[Steelworth]

They didn't start the full-scale cheating/taping/robbing locker rooms and hotels/disabling headphones thing until 2000.

I don't put anything on Marsha other than ridiculous favoritism by the refs.

**** the cheating ********.

She folds like a cheap tent when the pressure's on, but when Marcia's on, she's on.

And to Steeltime's point, the numbers really do speak for themselves (I'm going to throw up now).

 

[mightyguru]

Marsha is the recipient but Belischmuck is the catalyst behind the operation. I doubt that Marsha had any inkling that there was shenanigans afoot. Certainly, any QB would gain a huge advantage knowing the Defensive play call in advance...but he isn't responsible for the cheating imho.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Marsha is the recipient but Belischmuck is the catalyst behind the operation. I doubt that Marsha had any inkling that there was shenanigans afoot. Certainly, any QB would gain a huge advantage knowing the Defensive play call in advance...but he isn't responsible for the cheating imho.

not responsible but DEFINATELY a beneficary of it. t*mmyb*y is smart enough to put two and two together plus the fact that he full well instigated the ball inflation scandal. Billy definately put the puzzle together with his friend ernie and then the entire franchise benefitted from it. All achieved false acolades due to the bending of rules set forth for fair play. 31 other teams followed those rules and yet many people don't hold the cheaters accountable and think they are the greatest ever.

I understand where yu are coming from but also point out t*mmyb*y isn't the saint in all this. There is no fix and like I've said I'd love to see a tell all angy book come out about this. The reason for the angry is that the author would be more truthful should he/she be wronged and is writing out of spite.




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[Ike Kelly]

Adams was with Belichick in Cleveland when they went 36-44, and last year in New England when they went 7-9.

What's the difference? Did only Brady listen to Adams?

Belichick didn’t have hands off mentality of ownership in CLE like he did with Kraft. Art Modell was part of the group that put the league before individual franchises and unified the AFL and NFL. Model would not have allowed circumventing of the rules as it would have been bad for the league. Plus Rozzell would have done something about it, as would have Tagliabue.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Belichick didn’t have hands off mentality of ownership in CLE like he did with Kraft. Art Modell was part of the group that put the league before individual franchises and unified the AFL and NFL. Model would not have allowed circumventing of the rules as it would have been bad for the league. Plus Rozzell would have done something about it, as would have Tagliabue.

ABSOLUTE TRUTH in this post. Our spineless current pissant commissioner has proven his worth.




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[Steeltime]

Marsha is the recipient but Belischmuck is the catalyst behind the operation. I doubt that Marsha had any inkling that there was shenanigans afoot. Certainly, any QB would gain a huge advantage knowing the Defensive play call in advance...but he isn't responsible for the cheating imho.

Right, this theory keeps getting bandied about - they knew defensive signals and that gave Brady a huge advantage - but did they not implement this amazing knowledge at Cleveland when Adams and Belichick went 36-44, and stopped using it when Brady went to Tampa leading to a 7-9 record, but gave the defensive play secrets to Tampa so that Brady could go 11-5 regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs, including 148 points in those four games (average 37 points per game), and 91 points the last two games?

Or maybe, just maybe - stay with me here - the only constant to NE's playoff dominance and Tampa Bay's playoff dominance is the QB. Because nothing else is remotely similar. At all. Unless we believe that somehow, some way, Ernie Adams matters only when Brady is QB, and is worthless otherwise.

 

[slashsteel]

Right, this theory keeps getting bandied about - they knew defensive signals and that gave Brady a huge advantage - but did they not implement this amazing knowledge at Cleveland when Adams and Belichick went 36-44, and stopped using it when Brady went to Tampa leading to a 7-9 record, but gave the defensive play secrets to Tampa so that Brady could go 11-5 regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs, including 148 points in those four games (average 37 points per game), and 91 points the last two games?

Or maybe, just maybe - stay with me here - the only constant to NE's playoff dominance and Tampa Bay's playoff dominance is the QB. Because nothing else is remotely similar. At all. Unless we believe that somehow, some way, Ernie Adams matters only when Brady is QB, and is worthless otherwise.

For me cheating is cheating. It doesn't matter what degree helped. Brady is a good QB but they wouldn't have 6rings without Ernie and ref involvement. Plenty of great QBs fall short in obtaining the ultimate prize. Or are limited in appearances. That HC should have been banned when he was caught and kept up the cheating regardless of what he was instructed to do.

 

[mightyguru]

Right, this theory keeps getting bandied about - they knew defensive signals and that gave Brady a huge advantage - but did they not implement this amazing knowledge at Cleveland when Adams and Belichick went 36-44, and stopped using it when Brady went to Tampa leading to a 7-9 record, but gave the defensive play secrets to Tampa so that Brady could go 11-5 regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs, including 148 points in those four games (average 37 points per game), and 91 points the last two games?

Or maybe, just maybe - stay with me here - the only constant to NE's playoff dominance and Tampa Bay's playoff dominance is the QB. Because nothing else is remotely similar. At all. Unless we believe that somehow, some way, Ernie Adams matters only when Brady is QB, and is worthless otherwise.

The overall tone of your post is, stay with me now...condescending and sarcastic. Believe what you want and I'll do the same. Everyone's happy. Yay.

 

[Omar10213245]

Right, this theory keeps getting bandied about - they knew defensive signals and that gave Brady a huge advantage - but did they not implement this amazing knowledge at Cleveland when Adams and Belichick went 36-44, and stopped using it when Brady went to Tampa leading to a 7-9 record, but gave the defensive play secrets to Tampa so that Brady could go 11-5 regular season and 4-0 in the playoffs, including 148 points in those four games (average 37 points per game), and 91 points the last two games?

Or maybe, just maybe - stay with me here - the only constant to NE's playoff dominance and Tampa Bay's playoff dominance is the QB. Because nothing else is remotely similar. At all. Unless we believe that somehow, some way, Ernie Adams matters only when Brady is QB, and is worthless otherwise.

Pretty silly, really

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Which is all to say, it’s probably safe to shunt most of the But the cheating didn’t even help that muchhhhh defense off to the side, unless you are very sure that Bill Belichick and his clandestine cronies are the dumbest men working in football.

"Research Director"? Is that what they call it now?

A lot of the Pats****** playoff and Super Bowl wins came by 3 points or less. You don't need a lot of help and to crush other teams, you only need enough to get you one point.

Remember Tom Coughlin beat the Cheating Bastiges in the Super Bowl twice with Eli Freaking Manning because he was about the only coach who was anal retentive enough to change his signals for the big game. Meantime we're stuck with Coach Chin and Coach Cool Shades who both insist that Belicheat beat them fair and square, delusional motherf*ckers.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Adams was with Belichick in Cleveland when they went 36-44, and last year in New England when they went 7-9.

What's the difference? Did only Brady listen to Adams?

I do think that Br*dy is about the only QB both smart enough and accurate enough to make use of what Adams is telling him. Not every QB is good enough to run a game in real time while Adams is talking in his ear in real time and make decisions and throws in real time. Cam Newton sure as hell isn't.

 

[Steeltime]

I do think that Br*dy is about the only QB both smart enough and accurate enough to make use of what Adams is telling him. Not every QB is good enough to run a game in real time while Adams is talking in his ear in real time and make decisions and throws in real time. Cam Newton sure as hell isn't.

Yeah, I was sort of on that line of thinking until I saw Brady do the SAME DAMN THING at Tampa Bay, at age 43. Rather than being good enough, smart enough and accurate enough to employ the "secret signals," maybe he is just good enough and accurate enough to be an incredibly good QB who makes a good team great because he is in fact just that good.

I think Occam prefers my conclusion.

 

[Steelr4evr]

The pats****** are bullshit. I don't know what secret sauce Brady took with him to Tampa, but damn it works. Every great qb in the history of the NFL dropped off to a great degree, but not this guy,he should play until he is 50. It seems he effected the Tampa defense as well. Amazing.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Yeah, I was sort of on that line of thinking until I saw Brady do the SAME DAMN THING at Tampa Bay, at age 43. Rather than being good enough, smart enough and accurate enough to employ the "secret signals," maybe he is just good enough and accurate enough to be an incredibly good QB who makes a good team great because he is in fact just that good.

I think Occam prefers my conclusion.

HHHHmmmmmmmmmm Both t*mmyb*y and the franchise was found GUILTY of cheating.!!!


If he was "good enough" then why the cheating?





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[Drink IRON City]

The pats****** are bullshit. I don't know what secret sauce Brady took with him to Tampa, but damn it works. Every great qb in the history of the NFL dropped off to a great degree, but not this guy,he should play until he is 50. It seems he effected the Tampa defense as well. Amazing.

TB12 and not the watered down stuff.





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[Steelr4evr]

TB12 and not the watered down stuff.





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Can't get to 10 superbowls unless you have the full strength TB12. You know 50% of his career was a superbowl year.

Given the history of great teams,dynasties and HOF quarterbacks, I'd say someone is way,way,way outside of the normal range of probabilities.

A lot of extra help.

 

[slashsteel]

The pats****** are bullshit. I don't know what secret sauce Brady took with him to Tampa, but damn it works. Every great qb in the history of the NFL dropped off to a great degree, but not this guy,he should play until he is 50. It seems he effected the Tampa defense as well. Amazing.

Wouldn't shock me if lady was taking something he shouldn't be. Not like they are going to test the guy.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Wouldn't shock me if lady was taking something he shouldn't be. Not like they are going to test the guy.

That and most of all privileged intelligence on other teams they shouldn't have. I think Brady is an extremely smart football player, goes above and beyond what most do to prepare. Hates to lose more than anything, is driven by championships.

So he's the ultimate guy to use in that system. He's had a tremendous amount of help that nobody else gets.

It's impossible not to see it from 2001 on. I think he's a great player,but he isn't TEN superbowls good. Nobody is.

That's been my view for 20 years. Time and everyone trying to minimalize it, hasn't changed my perception at all.


Even this last superbowl. All they needed to win was 10 points given their defense managed to hold the chief's offense to 3 frigging field goals.

 

[MTC]

That and most of all privileged intelligence on other teams they shouldn't have. I think Brady is an extremely smart football player, goes above and beyond what most do to prepare. Hates to lose more than anything, is driven by championships.

So he's the ultimate guy to use in that system. He's had a tremendous amount of help that nobody else gets.

It's impossible not to see it from 2001 on. I think he's a great player,but he isn't TEN superbowls good. Nobody is.

That's been my view for 20 years. Time and everyone trying to minimalize it, hasn't changed my perception at all.


Even this last superbowl. All they needed to win was 10 points given their defense managed to hold the chief's offense to 3 frigging field goals.

Hard to say. Something else to account for is the nfl is a lot different today than back in 2001 to 2011. I say 2011 because that’s when the new cba took affect. Brady is…..God I hate to say it.

He’s elite. He prepares like no other etc. It was hard to win in 2001-2011 era. The new nfl has benefited him for those extra super bowls

 

[MTC]

Wouldn't shock me if lady was taking something he shouldn't be. Not like they are going to test the guy.

HGH